f*****3
发帖数: 71 | 1 续上篇：
我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
who, though he was in the form of God,
did not regard equality with God
as something to be exploited,
but emptied himself,
taking the form of a slave,
being born in human likeness.
And being found in human form,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to the point of death—
even death on a cross.
Therefore God also highly exalted him
| s***m
发帖数: 1319 | 2 谢谢分享
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| i*****d
发帖数: 1179 | 3
耶稣是神 肉身的显现， 也就是神自己。但 他不是父神 本身。父比他大，他是神的儿
子。
腓立比书的这一段 讲的是 耶稣是如何谦卑自己在神的面前， 他丝毫没有因有着 与神
一样的质 而与父神同等。却倒空自己， 让父神全权掌管。 我们每一个基督徒在新生
命里， 都应该象耶稣一样，谦卑自己， 让父神来在我们的生命中掌舵。我们困惑或失
落时， 都要紧紧 依靠神， 坚信 神的带领。
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 4 am the LORD, that is my name;
my glory I give to no other,
nor my praise to idols.
這明明是說不能有其他偶像（耶穌），怎麼變成耶穌是神的證據？ | f*****3
发帖数: 71 | 5 你要对比以赛亚书看.我翻译的不好,没有将原文逻辑写的更详细,但应该看的出来.
三一神是为做系统的神学研究而发展起来的,但他的根据或种子却是从最初期教会就有
了,是有可靠的历史和逻辑根据的.而反对者基本上是依靠没有根据的假定或假设.
另外,我个人认为后世有太多的"聪明人",自认为自己领会到初期教会没能领会到的,造
成千奇百派. 虽然我们不能证明初期教会就是对的,但我相信,越接近耶稣时代的教会,
他们的理解越正确.
最后,我对读经的看法: 圣经是准确无误的.但不要太复杂化,不要什么问题都到圣经中
找答案,找以前没有领会到的,甚至不惜把某些字句单独割裂出来. 圣经的启示不复杂,
就是耶稣所传的:天国近了,你们要悔改.
一点个人意见.
【在 i*****d 的大作中提到】
:
: 耶稣是神 肉身的显现， 也就是神自己。但 他不是父神 本身。父比他大，他是神的儿
: 子。
: 腓立比书的这一段 讲的是 耶稣是如何谦卑自己在神的面前， 他丝毫没有因有着 与神
: 一样的质 而与父神同等。却倒空自己， 让父神全权掌管。 我们每一个基督徒在新生
: 命里， 都应该象耶稣一样，谦卑自己， 让父神来在我们的生命中掌舵。我们困惑或失
: 落时， 都要紧紧 依靠神， 坚信 神的带领。
| i*****d
发帖数: 1179 | 6
有了,是有可靠的历史和逻辑根据的.而反对者基本上是依靠没有根据的假定或假设.另
外,我个人认为后世有太多的"聪明人",自认为自己领会到初期教会没能领会到的,造成
千奇百派. 虽然我们不能证明初期教会就是对的,但我相信,越接近耶稣时代的教会,他
们的理解越正确.
中找答案,找以前没有领会到的,甚至不惜把某些字句单独割裂出来. 圣经的启示不复杂
,就是耶稣所传的:天国近了,你们要悔改.
一神论 是上帝自己传的，看看十诫第二诫。
Exo 20:3 「除了我以外，你不可有别的神。
Deu 6:4 「以色列啊，你要听！耶和华我们神是独一的主。
再看新约：
Mat 5:18 我实在告诉你们，就是到天地都废去了，律法的一点一画也不能废去，都要
成全。
Mat 5:19 所以，无论何人废掉这诫命中最小的一条，又教训人这样做，他在天国要称
为最小的。但无论何人遵行这诫命，又教训人遵行，他在天国要称为大的。
不用我说，你能看明白， 圣经不是难懂的。只有人不向懂或明白。
只有一位神， 万军之耶和华。耶稣是他的儿子，也是那灵。
2Co 3:17 主就是那灵；主的灵在那里，那里就得以自由。
感谢主，
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 你要对比以赛亚书看.我翻译的不好,没有将原文逻辑写的更详细,但应该看的出来.
: 三一神是为做系统的神学研究而发展起来的,但他的根据或种子却是从最初期教会就有
: 了,是有可靠的历史和逻辑根据的.而反对者基本上是依靠没有根据的假定或假设.
: 另外,我个人认为后世有太多的"聪明人",自认为自己领会到初期教会没能领会到的,造
: 成千奇百派. 虽然我们不能证明初期教会就是对的,但我相信,越接近耶稣时代的教会,
: 他们的理解越正确.
: 最后,我对读经的看法: 圣经是准确无误的.但不要太复杂化,不要什么问题都到圣经中
: 找答案,找以前没有领会到的,甚至不惜把某些字句单独割裂出来. 圣经的启示不复杂,
: 就是耶稣所传的:天国近了,你们要悔改.
: 一点个人意见.
| i****l
发帖数: 181 | 7
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| j********a
发帖数: 440 | 8
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| k****1
发帖数: 189 | 9
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| e***o
发帖数: 44 | 10
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| | | m***a
发帖数: 59 | 11
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| m***1
发帖数: 27 | 12
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| m****o
发帖数: 329 | 13
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| i***1
发帖数: 137 | 14
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| c********1
发帖数: 552 | 15
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| n*******a
发帖数: 581 | 16
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| i*****e
发帖数: 910 | 17
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| z**********a
发帖数: 182 | 18
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| c*******m
发帖数: 131 | 19
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| s******g
发帖数: 18 | 20
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| | | n*****1
发帖数: 50 | 21
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| n*****1
发帖数: 56 | 22
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| n***9
发帖数: 6 | 23
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| w******f
发帖数: 91 | 24
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| r****y
发帖数: 1553 | 25
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| e********7
发帖数: 565 | 26
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| f********r
发帖数: 266 | 27
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| m*****g
发帖数: 287 | 28
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| c****r
发帖数: 1109 | 29
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| a**********e
发帖数: 977 | 30
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| | | r********s
发帖数: 232 | 31
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| r******a
发帖数: 192 | 32
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| f******a
发帖数: 441 | 33
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| Y****r
发帖数: 671 | 34
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| Y****r
发帖数: 671 | 35
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | | l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | | h****9
发帖数: 1087 | 38 谢谢分享。其实以前我对为什么基督教要坚持三位一体也不是十分明确，通过和摩门教
以及反基的辩论，反而更加明确了。真是万事都互相效力，叫爱神的人得益处。
【在 f*****3 的大作中提到】
: 续上篇：
: 我们来看腓立比书的一段,这一段保罗以赞美的语言称颂耶稣,
: Let the same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus,
: who, though he was in the form of God,
: did not regard equality with God
: as something to be exploited,
: but emptied himself,
: taking the form of a slave,
: being born in human likeness.
: And being found in human form,
| l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 39 that's exactly how I feel too.
【在 h****9 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢分享。其实以前我对为什么基督教要坚持三位一体也不是十分明确，通过和摩门教
: 以及反基的辩论，反而更加明确了。真是万事都互相效力，叫爱神的人得益处。
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发帖数: 9485 | 40 请问你们二位弟兄，你们祷告的时候跟谁说话？为什么？ | | | m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 41 我们对神的属性理解的某些不同，不能抹掉否认我们做的其实是一样的。就是，所有基
督徒，都是向天父祷告，奉耶稣基督的名字。这是耶稣亲自演示所教授的。这是事实。 | d**b
发帖数: 55 | 42 我也抱着很很认真的态度来问，摩门教相信神是个灵吗，还是有肉体的？相信耶稣是圣
灵感孕的吗？
【在 m****a 的大作中提到】
: 我们对神的属性理解的某些不同，不能抹掉否认我们做的其实是一样的。就是，所有基
: 督徒，都是向天父祷告，奉耶稣基督的名字。这是耶稣亲自演示所教授的。这是事实。
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