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c******i
发帖数: 4091
1
否则为什么这么多真基抵死不从?
s*********t
发帖数: 4253
2
现在好多非基都割包皮好吧!
国内的不少医院到都有割包皮手术。
一些男人不割包皮真是害苦了伴侣。
所以千年的圣经健康教导不是没有道理。wake up!
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男人为什么要割包皮,不割行么!_百度知道
前提! 我是每天都清洗的!不割行么??
同济专家|四级
你好:
包皮过长 ,包皮内板分泌物不能及时清除,使病原体在此生长繁殖而引起局部炎
症,出现:潮红、起疱、红点、分泌物、包皮垢、瘙痒、有异味等。如果情况较轻,可
以不用进行手术,每天清洗即可,但如果反复出现龟头炎症,则需要进行手术治疗。
E*****m
发帖数: 25615
3
你割了?

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 现在好多非基都割包皮好吧!
: 国内的不少医院到都有割包皮手术。
: 一些男人不割包皮真是害苦了伴侣。
: 所以千年的圣经健康教导不是没有道理。wake up!
: -----------------
: http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/146953182.html
: 男人为什么要割包皮,不割行么!_百度知道
: 前提! 我是每天都清洗的!不割行么??
: 同济专家|四级
: 你好:

s*********t
发帖数: 4253
4
呵呵。我认识一些朋友在国内割了。
。。他们之中有些连圣经都没翻过。
你快去割吧!为你自己和伴侣着想。It's about health!
<桃園醫院>
33004 桃園市中山路1492號 總機電話:(03)369-9721
http://www.tygh.doh.gov.tw/releaseRedirect.do?unitID=1&pageID=1
一、哪些情況可以考慮割包皮?
完全性包莖:就是龜頭怎麼都看不見
反覆性發炎:常常發炎
包皮非常長,連勃起時都無法露出龜頭
包皮上懷疑有病灶,做切除化驗
二、有沒有哪些情形一定不可以割包皮?
合併尿道下裂:假如考慮接受尿道下裂矯正手術的話,請絕對不要輕易割包皮。
陰莖包埋:病人非常胖,使外觀上以為包皮非常長,其實只要減肥後,長度剛剛好。
包皮上有不適合手術的病灶:像是疣(菜花)、感染性病灶等
其他不適合手術的情況:像是特殊體質、容易出血等
三、手術前有哪些病人必須配合事情?
手術前一天晚上將會陰部清洗乾淨
為減少術後發生感染,請將陰毛剔除乾淨
若有服用藥物或是有特殊體質(像是出血傾向、糖尿病等),請與醫師討論。
四、手術後居家照顧須知
傷口請不要碰水,並於三天後回門診
若有疼痛、出血或其他不適情形,請儘速回診
避免勃起:假如勃起時,請用虎口環住傷口,並用另一手的指甲用力掐龜頭,讓勃起
消退,以
免使傷口繃裂
傷口會腫脹一段時間,必須小心照顧
二個月內避免性行為,以免傷口裂開

【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】
: 你割了?
x***x
发帖数: 3401
5
这么多好处又是圣经的教导 那基督徒不割是啥原因?

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 现在好多非基都割包皮好吧!
: 国内的不少医院到都有割包皮手术。
: 一些男人不割包皮真是害苦了伴侣。
: 所以千年的圣经健康教导不是没有道理。wake up!
: -----------------
: http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/146953182.html
: 男人为什么要割包皮,不割行么!_百度知道
: 前提! 我是每天都清洗的!不割行么??
: 同济专家|四级
: 你好:

s*********t
发帖数: 4253
6
你如果有洁癖,可以也考虑下。真的好的!

【在 x***x 的大作中提到】
: 这么多好处又是圣经的教导 那基督徒不割是啥原因?
y****n
发帖数: 1397
7
你切了?

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 你如果有洁癖,可以也考虑下。真的好的!
c******i
发帖数: 4091
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http://www.circumcision.org/confessions.htm
Confessions of a Circumcised Man
"This is winter wheat we’re sowing, and other hands will harvest."
Elizabeth Cady Stanton, American Universal Suffrage Leader
For as long as I can remember, I’ve loved sunsets and impressionist oil
paintings. The subtle interplay of color and light has always struck me as
beautiful, even sublime. I couldn’t imagine anything being more lovely.
So much so, that I was dumbstruck to learn at the age of 18 that I was color
blind. "It can’t be," I insisted to the eye doctor. He matter-of-factly
explained that I had failed the full Ishihara color-vision test. Out of a
series of 38 polka-dotted circles, I could only see the embedded numbers in
four of them. There was no doubt. I was color-blind.
My denial was complete. I didn’t believe him. "I can see colors," I
insisted. "My jeans are blue. My shirt is light blue. Your slacks are dark
grey." He tonelessly explained that yes, I could see some colors. But what I
saw was not nearly as vivid or as complete as seen by people with "normal
color vision." My color vision was radically muted.
I still didn’t believe him. I showed the test to my sisters. They both
passed, easily.
It took me a while to process this discovery and accept that I was one among
the 20% of men who are color-blind because of a genetic defect. It was
nobody’s fault. Nothing to be embarrassed about. Just bad luck.
But this discovery and my experience with overcoming denial enabled me to
finally confront something else. I was able to confront another area where
my perception of the world is significantly diminished. This area is
diminished in a way that I never imagined possible. It is another place
where my perception of the world is not nearly as vivid or as complete as "
normal people."
The area I’m talking about is my sexual perception – my physical
appreciation of normal sexual contact. My sexual perception is radically
muted, too. But this time, it is not a blameless, unlucky genetic defect.
This was done to me by other people. My sexual perception was taken from me.
It was taken intentionally. It was taken by doctors. It was taken without my
knowledge or consent. It was taken when I was a defenseless baby. And,
perhaps most shockingly, it was taken with my parents’ approval.
This time the denial was harder to overcome. This time the denial didn’t
just protect my self-image of being fully "normal." This time the denial
protected me from knowing that the people who I have trusted the most, who I
loved the most – had betrayed me. The denial guarded me from fully knowing
and feeling the painful discovery that I had been hurt badly, and forever,
in the most intimate and personal part of my life. I was permanently
sexually maimed. Intentionally. By the people who claim to love me the most
– my parents.
This has been a very hard path of self-discovery to follow.
But, in confronting all of the feelings that were waiting for me behind my
curtain of denial, I found more than just pain and anger and depression.
They were there, certainly, in large amounts. But, I also found
understanding and personal growth and some hope.
I understand now why I sometimes have difficulty maintaining an erection or
achieving orgasm. This isn’t a shameful failure of my masculinity. This isn
’t evidence of my physical and emotional disinterest in a sexual partner.
This isn’t proof of my shortcomings as a man. I’ve learned that this is
proof of the operation’s success. Erectile dysfunction and diminished
sexual pleasure are THE desired surgical outcomes of circumcision. My
operation was a success!
Many people believe that sex is wrong. They believe masturbation and
recreational sex are immoral. Sometimes these beliefs are religiously
motivated, sometimes not. Genital cutting is the intervention that directly
addresses the evil of human sexuality. Medical textbooks used to be very
specific about the effectiveness of male and female circumcision in
preventing masturbation. That is what genital cutting is designed to achieve
– undermining human sexuality by dramatically reducing sexual pleasure. I
understand that now. I also understand that this intention was never
explained to my parents.
I understand now that my radically muted sexual sensations aren’t the
result of a botched, or extraordinarily aggressive, circumcision. They are
greatly dulled because my circumcision went the way it was supposed to. I am
more numb than a normal man, an intact man. The most sensitive parts of my
penis are gone. The "lips" of my prepuce were taken. My Ridged Band was
taken. My Frenulum was taken. My Outer Foreskin was taken. And lastly, my
Glans and Inner Foreskin are desensitized from constant chaffing from
contact with the outside world. I also understand that these exquisitely
sensitive parts of my anatomy and their functions were never explained to my
parents.
Effectively, the "eyes and ears" of my system of sexual perception are gone.
I can still have sex and I can still conceive a child, but most of the fun
and much of the frequency are gone. I know about the reduced frequency from
my experience with failed efforts – and fear of failed efforts. The loss of
pleasure, the fun, is something I can only try to understand about by
reading.
But, I know about numbness and loss. The memories of being unable to
maintain an erection with women who I loved, who I was deeply attracted to
both physically and emotionally, are still very sharp. So too, are the
memories of my feelings of inadequacy and their feelings of being
undesirable to me. As are the memories of those relationships drifting apart
and inexplicably ending. Now, I understand why. I also understand that
these predictable results of my circumcision were never explained to my
parents.
I know about numbness and disease. I was taught about safe sex and I
understand how important it is. But I also know that when I’ve tried to use
condoms, I become totally numb. For me, condoms equal abstinence. With a
condom, I am rarely able to maintain an erection and I’m never able to
achieve orgasm. I understand why that is now. But faced with the choice of
unsafe intercourse or no intercourse, I chose to be unsafe. And I paid the
price. Circumcision isn’t the only thing that lasts forever. Some diseases
last forever. So too, do the memories and anguish of an unwanted pregnancy.
I’ll carry both of these for the rest of my life. Now I understand why. I
also understand that my parents never knew that circumcision would put me in
a situation where I’d need to take those risks in order to share intimacy
with a loved one.
I’ve undergone a lot of personal growth throughout this process of dealing
with my circumcision. I’ve researched about my body – what I was born with
and how it functions. I’ve researched about how the medical community has
deceived generations of parents about the practice of circumcision. I’ve
researched about the difficulty of overcoming denial and breaking the cycle
of ritual abuse that can exist within families. And I’ve researched the
changing trends in choices that families are making for their sons – and
this gives me hope.
Hope isn’t a word that easily comes into my heart and mind when I think
about genital cutting. I am a survivor of an abusive sexual assault that I
don’t remember…but can never forget. I will never know what sex is
supposed to be like for a man. I will never look in the mirror and see a
complete male form. But, I have learned that I can forgive my parents for
letting strangers hurt me so badly. I have learned that I can love them
still, in spite of my pain and anger. And that gives me hope.I have hope
because I know that I can love and forgive. I can love and forgive because
my parents were misled and they didn’t know any better. They had no easy
access to research through the internet. They heard no voices of child
advocacy pleading on my behalf. They had no reassurance from a large and
growing group of parents who were challenging and rejecting the horrifying
violation of routine infant genital mutilation.
My parents weren’t unwilling to learn – unwilling to protect me. They were
deceived. And I forgive them.
I have hope because I can channel my negative feelings of betrayal, anger,
pain and depression into something positive. I can advocate protecting the
newborns of today who will become a generation of men tomorrow. I can help
in a small way to educate today’s parents and be the voice for them that I
wish was available to my parents. I can help break the cycle of violence
against baby boys in the same way that it has been broken for baby girls.
Hope won’t return to me what was taken so long ago. But if I can help even
a few parents choose to courageously challenge their doctors and their
families in defense of their sons, it will be worth enduring all of the pain
that I found hiding behind my own curtain of denial.
A million baby boys a year are crying out for someone to help them. I cannot
remain silent. I cannot collude through inaction. I must try to do my part
to help them however I can. Please join me in this effort. Our generation
can protect the next generation.
"This is winter wheat we’re sowing, other hands will harvest." ~ ECS
In deep and sincere solidarity with my newborn brothers,
Kirk
c******i
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割包皮会造成一生的心理创伤和生理隐患,会增加妇科疾病的发病率,会增加艾滋病的
发病率,等等。
How Male Circumcision Harms Women
Ronald Goldman, Ph.D.
Learn about the hidden negative psychological and sexual effects of
circumcision and how these effects harm women in relationships with men.
This article is based on research reports in the medical and psychological
literature.
Marilyn Milos didn't know much about circumcision when she consented to have
her three sons circumcised. She trusted her doctor who told her it did not
hurt and "only took a moment." Several years later she watched a
circumcision in nursing school. "We students filed into the newborn nursery
to find a baby strapped spread-eagle to a plastic board on a counter top
across the room." Then the doctor arrived. "The silence was soon broken by a
piercing scream, the baby's reaction to having his foreskin pinched and
crushed as the doctor attached the clamp to his penis. The shriek
intensified when the doctor inserted an instrument between the foreskin and
the glans (head of the penis), tearing the two [normally attached]
structures apart. The baby started shaking his head back and forth, the only
part of his body free to move, as the doctor used another clamp to crush
the foreskin lengthwise. . . . The baby began to gasp and choke, breathless
from his shrill continuous screams. . . . During the next stage of the
surgery, the doctor crushed the foreskin against the circumcision instrument
and then, finally, amputated it. The baby was limp, exhausted, spent."
Now she deeply regrets her sons' circumcisions and works tirelessly to
educate others.
Most people still don't know much about circumcision. If you have ever read
an article about circumcision, it probably focused on medical issues.
Recently The New York Times reported that public health officials were
considering promoting infant circumcision because of a controversial claim
that it could help prevent disease.
A few relevant facts may surprise you. Circumcision is the only surgery in
history ever advocated as a widespread means of preventing disease. When
such claims are investigated by national medical organizations, they are
found lacking. That's why no such organization in the world recommends
circumcision. Over 80% of the world's males are not circumcised. Though many
people associate circumcision with Jews, most circumcised males are Muslims
. The United States has the highest rate of non-religious circumcisions of
male infants in the world (32.5%). (The American rate peaked around 1965 at
about 85%.) American circumcision rates vary widely depending on the region
of the country.
In the continuous effort of certain American male investigators to seek a
medical benefit, the potential adverse effects of circumcision have been
ignored. Expanding the circumcision debate beyond medicine is overdue, and
women have good reasons to be involved. Critically examining circumcision
from psychological and sexual perspectives could show how this cultural
practice may affect some mothers of circumcised sons, some women in
relationships with men, and society. Before we consider these issues, let's
review a few of the effects of circumcision on infants.
HOW PAINFUL IS CIRCUMCISION?
A variety of studies confirm that newborn infant responses to pain are
similar to and greater than those in adult subjects. Robert Van Howe, M.D.,
a Michigan pediatrician who has authored numerous studies about circumcision
, describes the infant's response. "Circumcision results in not only severe
pain but also an increased risk of choking and difficulty breathing. Medical
studies show significant increases in heart rate and level of blood stress
hormone. Some infants do not cry because they go into shock from the
overwhelming pain of the surgery." According to clinical definitions and
researchers' reports, circumcision is traumatic. Even when pain medication
is used (local injection, the best option tested), it relieves only some of
the pain, the effect is inconsistent, and it wanes before the post-operative
pain does. General anesthesia is not considered safe for newborn infants.
Increased awareness of extreme circumcision pain by Jewish mothers has
contributed to growing questioning and forgoing of circumcision by some Jews
, as reported in dozens of articles appearing in mainstream Jewish
publications on the topic in recent years. Five rabbis endorse a book that
questions Jewish circumcision.
EFFECTS ON MOTHER-INFANT RELATIONSHIPS
The trauma of circumcision raises questions about effects on mother-infant
relationships. Based on more than twenty years of clinical observations
using leading-edge techniques, psychiatrist Rima Laibow, M.D., reports,
When a child is subjected to intolerable, overwhelming pain, he
conceptualizes mother as both participatory and responsible regardless of
mother's intent. . . . The consequences for impaired bonding are significant
. . . . Circumcision is an enormous obstacle to the development of basic
trust between mother and child.
Even though the physician does the circumcising, and the father may have
made the final decision to circumcise, the newborn infant connects the
experience to the mother. Because the experience is repressed, the
connection between the event and the mother is also repressed. (How this
repressed connection affects men's feelings toward women is not known.)
Studies have shown that circumcision can adversely affect mother-infant
bonding. Circumcised infants can be more irritable. Since infant
irritability at two days has been connected with insecure bonding at
fourteen months, the impact of circumcision on bonding may be more than
temporary. The effect of circumcision on mother-infant bonding and
interaction is evident in this account by Mary Milvich about her experience
around the birth of her first child:
I shared a hospital room with a mother whose son was born within hours of my
daughter. My roommate and I marveled at the identical personality traits
exhibited by our newborn babies. Both were perfectly calm, never cried and
gazed unwaveringly at our faces when we held them. We experienced that
maternal closeness the mother feels when she realizes her baby knows her and
accepts her as caretaker. . . . Delight in our new-found joys of motherhood
was shattered the following morning. My roommate's baby had changed. He
refused to nurse; he cried; he wouldn't be held. "He doesn't want me," my
roommate pitifully told the nurse. "It's just the circumcision," the nurse
told her comfortingly.
Investigators have confirmed that the trauma of circumcision may contribute
to the failure of an infant to breast-feed. In addition, extended crying
connected with circumcision may exceed the mother's tolerance level. She
could become more interested in relieving her own distress (from hearing the
crying) than that of her infant. If a mother believes she is not able to
relieve her infant's distress, she may feel a lack of competence and respond
less or not at all. She may also think her infant has a "difficult"
temperament and use that belief as a reason not to respond.
Conversely, if an infant withdraws because of the trauma of circumcision, he
may not communicate his needs, the mother could assume he is content, and
his needs may not be met. Interaction between mother and child could be
frustrating and less rewarding for the mother if she receives only a limited
response from her child. Like all relationships, the mother-infant
relationship is a two-way social relationship that depends on the
responsiveness of both. If either the mother or the infant is unresponsive,
the relationship may suffer, and emotional disturbances could occur. More
research is needed.
MEN'S FEELINGS ABOUT CIRCUMCISION
To understand how circumcision may affect women in relationships with men,
we need to know how circumcision can affect men. Current knowledge of male
feelings about their circumcision is generally based on surveys published in
medical journals, clinical experience, and reports from men who have
contacted circumcision information organizations. These reports collectively
include thousands of boys and men. Circumcision advocates dismiss these
surveys and reports as "anecdotal."
In a medical journal survey of 546 self-selected men between the ages of 20
and 60 who reported circumcision harm, the following effects and feelings
were noted.
anger, rage, sense of loss, shame, sense of having been victimized and
mutilated
low self-esteem, fear, distrust, and grief
relationship difficulties, sexual anxieties, and depression
reduced emotional expression, avoidance of intimacy
Statements about circumcision from dissatisfied men include the following:
"I have felt a deep rage for a long time about this."
"Circumcision has given my life a much diminished and shameful flavor."
"I feel violated and abused."
Some of these circumcised men wish they had been given a choice at a later
time rather than having it forced on them when they were too young to resist
. Six medical societies in Australia and New Zealand and the British Medical
Association recognize the long-term psychological risks of circumcision.
This survey does not suggest that all circumcised males have such feelings
or how common the feelings are, only that they persist in some circumcised
males, and more research is needed. There are various possible reasons why
we don't hear more from circumcised men about how they truly feel.
lack of awareness and understanding that circumcision could be
associated with their symptoms
emotional repression to defend against uncomfortable feelings
fear of disclosure because they may be dismissed or ridiculed
EFFECTS ON MALE-FEMALE INTIMACY
Because research is limited, we can only speculate about how the potential
psychological effects of circumcision on men could inhibit their
relationships with women. For example, low male self-esteem, shame, fear,
distrust, and sexual anxiety can adversely affect communication and limit
the degree of intimacy. In addition, sexual intimacy is a major component of
male-female bonding, and research has shown that male sexual activity
increases when self-esteem is higher. If circumcision lowers both male self-
esteem and sexual sensitivity (to be discussed later), it would tend to
reduce male sexual activity and consequently weaken the pair bond.
Male-female relationships could also be restricted because some circumcised
men may feel a nagging sense that passion, excitement, or sexual fulfillment
is missing. If a man believes he cannot experience what he is missing with
a woman, he may withhold commitment and continually seek new women to give
him hope. In addition, the reduced emotional expression of circumcised men
may dampen women's feelings. As a result, both men and women may feel
something is missing from their relationships.
From a larger perspective, it would not be surprising if circumcision were
found to have a negative effect on interpersonal relationships, since
circumcision is a trauma, and trauma commonly impairs a person's relations
with others. Harvard psychiatrist, professor, and author Judith Herman
writes that after a traumatic event "a sense of alienation, of disconnection
, pervades every relationship."
Research has also shown that men have a lower physiological tolerance to
emotional stress than women do. Emotional numbing, a response to trauma,
would tend to reduce a person's tolerance to emotional stress. This would
account for the male tendency to avoid certain situations, such as marital
conflict. One method men use to control their exposure to this emotional
stress is to respond rationally rather than emotionally. Another tactic is
to withdraw or stonewall during a conflict. Both behaviors can weaken the
marital relationship by restricting communication and leaving conflicts
unresolved. Does circumcision increase America's uniquely high divorce rate?
Emotional numbing also affects our sensitivity to others' pain because it is
related to our sensitivity to our own pain. When an infant is subjected to
the trauma of circumcision with nobody responding to his cries, he
experiences our insensitivity to his pain. If we do not have empathy for
infants, they may not have empathy for others. A male acquaintance, after
reading about circumcision, remarked, "It hurts, and the baby screams. So
what?" Circumcision may be an early experience that reduces male empathy.
It appears that there are a few reasons why circumcision could be a
contributing factor to relationship difficulties between men and women. More
research is needed.
EFFECTS ON SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS
To understand how circumcision may impair women's sexual relationships with
men, we need to learn about the foreskin. Christopher Cold, M.D., Chairman
of Anatomical Pathology at the Marshfield Clinic in Marshfield, Wisconsin,
has studied and written about the foreskin. "It has important functions. The
foreskin protects the head of the penis throughout life from contamination,
friction, drying, and injury. It is an integral, natural part of the penis,
not 'extra.' On the average adult male it is about twelve square inches [
some circumcised men guess less than one square inch], and it consists of a
movable, double-layered sleeve. The foreskin enhances sexual pleasure.
Detailed study shows that it is made up of unique zones with several kinds
of specialized nerves that are important to natural sexual function and
experiencing the full range of sexual sensations."
Loss of the foreskin results in thickening and progressive desensitization
of the outer layer of the head of the penis, particularly in older men. Some
men circumcised as adults report a significant loss of sensitivity and
regret the change. Circumcision may be an unrecognized factor in the high
rates of erectile dysfunction in American men, which would involve
associated psychological effects. Of course, any sexual and associated
psychological effects on men would affect women.
Women who have only had sex with circumcised men may not know what they are
missing. According to surveys in the medical literature, women reported that
they were significantly more likely to have vaginal dryness during
intercourse with circumcised men than genitally intact men. A medical
journal survey of women who had comparative sexual experience included 138
responses. Other things being equal, on a scale of ten, they rated genitally
intact men 8.03 and circumcised men 1.81. With circumcised partners, women
were less likely to have one or multiple vaginal orgasms, and their
circumcised partners were more likely to have a premature ejaculation.
Circumcision was also connected with vaginal discomfort. Women were less
likely to "really get into it" and more likely to "want to get it over with"
if their partner was circumcised.
The results can be explained. The foreskin, as previously mentioned, is a
movable, double-layered sleeve. During intercourse, it glides up and down
the penile shaft, reducing friction and retaining vaginal secretions.
Without the foreskin, the skin on the penile shaft rubs against the vaginal
wall, resulting in friction and increasing the need for artificial
lubrication. The circumcised man has less sensitivity and requires deeper
and harder thrusting to try to compensate, further increasing the friction.
With circumcised partners, surveyed women were more likely to feel
unappreciated, distanced, disinterested, frustrated, and discontented. When
their partners were not circumcised, women were more likely to feel intimate
with their partners, relaxed, warmth, mutual satisfaction, and "complete as
a woman," and the greater sexual satisfaction benefited the relationship.
To be clear, this does not mean that women cannot have a satisfying
emotional and sexual relationship with a circumcised man. Other things being
equal, it means that such a relationship may be likely to be even more
satisfying if the man were not circumcised.
MALE ABUSES TOWARD WOMEN
It is possible to compare circumcision rates by country to prevalence of
male abuses toward women that include violence, repression, isolation,
murder, rape, and forced marriage. The ten worst countries for women are
Afghanistan, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iraq, Nepal, Sudan, Guatemala,
Mali, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Somalia. Eight of these countries have a
male circumcision rate that exceeds 80%. Two other countries have a rate
between 20% and 80%.
In the United States, domestic violence is the single greatest cause of
injury to women. Every fifteen seconds a man beats a women. Low self-esteem
can contribute to this behavior. Men low in self-esteem are more prone to
jealously in their relationships. Jealously is a precipitating factor in
violence toward women. Predictably, low male self-esteem, a possible effect
of circumcision, correlates with a high risk of domestic violence. It has
also been documented that exposure to violence in childhood is linked to
later spousal abuse. The child experiences circumcision as violent. Those
who have been violated generally have a problem with anger and may direct it
at others.
The association between circumcision rates and abuses toward women could be
related to the long-term psychological effects of circumcision on men which,
in addition to low self-esteem and anger, include disruption in the mother-
male child relationship, post-traumatic stress disorder, weakened
relationships with women, and low empathy. More research is needed.
UNNECESSARY FEMALE SURGERY
Let's examine if the long-term effects of circumcision could affect the
surgical inclinations of circumcised doctors. For example, women are
subjected to excessive risk for unnecessary surgery in the United States.
Six of the top thirteen most frequently performed surgeries and procedures
were performed exclusively on women. An episiotomy is routinely performed on
a mother during birth. Some women view this obstetrical practice, which has
no demonstrated benefit and only adverse effects, as female genital
mutilation. About 569,000 hysterectomies a year lead to over 600 deaths
annually. Critics claim that 98% of hysterectomies are unnecessary.
Is there any connection between unnecessary female sexual surgery and male
circumcision? Virtually all cultures that widely practice unnecessary female
sexual surgery also practice unnecessary male sexual surgery, and men
control both practices. Such is the case in the United States. In Europe
where circumcision is rare, the rate of unnecessary female sexual surgery is
much lower. In addition, it seems that circumcised men who have been denied
the full expression of their sexuality may unconsciously seek a way to deny
others that pleasure, whether they use social custom, fear, ignorance, or
sexual surgery. According to psychological clinical literature, such
behavior is connected with the compulsion of those who are traumatized to
repeat the trauma on others. As psychiatrist Karl Menninger said, "What's
done to children, they will do to society." Finally, a study on the
underlying reasons for female genital mutilation concluded that the
motivation was psychosexual and included male fear of female sexuality. A
potential long-term effect of circumcision is fear of female sexuality.
Addressing male circumcision may help dealing with female genital mutilation
and other forms of unnecessary female sexual surgery. Research into this
connection is important because these practices adversely affect hundreds of
millions of people worldwide.
WHY WOMEN ARE GETTING INVOLVED
There is much more we could investigate. Do potential anger and rage
associated with circumcision contribute to uniquely high American rates of
female murder victims, rape, and domestic violence? We do not know. Because
male motivation and money are steered toward seeking potential benefits for
circumcision, we are not likely to know all the effects of circumcision any
time soon. However, more than enough is now known (and not known) to
question this cultural practice. Women are particularly encouraged to be
involved in the circumcision decision for their son.
Women are not subject to the personal psychological motivations of
circumcised men to want their son circumcised (e.g., "I want him to look
like me").
Some women have experienced long-term regret ("deep wound of guilt" "my
gravest parenting mistake") if they consented to circumcision.
Women sign the majority of hospital circumcision consent forms.
Times are changing. More women are thinking about circumcision seriously,
seeking independent sources of information, often long before giving birth,
and not yielding to men who want it for their son.
Because of male psychological resistance to this issue and the maternal
instinct to protect infants from harm, women are more likely to see through
the cultural blinders and take action. Women are getting involved in
educating others either personally, with the Internet, or through pertinent
organizations. One who is speaking out is Melissa Morrison, who chose
circumcision for her son because "it was something that was just done." She
watched her son's surgery and now deeply regrets her decision. "People need
to know what they are doing to their babies. I didn't know. I'm talking to
my girlfriends; I'm talking to mothers. If it helps just to save one baby,
then it's worth it."
References are available upon request. Please go to contact us page.
Ronald Goldman, Ph.D. is a psychological researcher, educator, and Executive
Director of the Circumcision Resource Center in Boston, a nonprofit
educational organization. Dr. Goldman is internationally known for his work
on circumcision and is the author of Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma and
Questioning Circumcision: A Jewish Perspective. He gives lectures on the
psychosocial aspects of circumcision, counsels parents and circumcised men,
and has participated in over two hundred interviews with broadcast and print
media.
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© Circumcision Resource Center
s*********t
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包皮过长造成细菌感染才会带给你自己和伴侣心理创伤和生理隐患!
今天这已不是基督教的专利。很多非基都如此行。
不信,下次可以到公共厕所偷偷的瞄一瞄!呵呵
无谓发以下这些长篇大论。割包皮和基督教已不嗒噶了

have
not

【在 c******i 的大作中提到】
: 割包皮会造成一生的心理创伤和生理隐患,会增加妇科疾病的发病率,会增加艾滋病的
: 发病率,等等。
: How Male Circumcision Harms Women
: Ronald Goldman, Ph.D.
: Learn about the hidden negative psychological and sexual effects of
: circumcision and how these effects harm women in relationships with men.
: This article is based on research reports in the medical and psychological
: literature.
: Marilyn Milos didn't know much about circumcision when she consented to have
: her three sons circumcised. She trusted her doctor who told her it did not

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赞真基个个天生包皮过长不洗澡“到公共厕所偷偷的瞄一瞄”直接改写圣经“割包皮和
基督教已不嗒噶了”

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 包皮过长造成细菌感染才会带给你自己和伴侣心理创伤和生理隐患!
: 今天这已不是基督教的专利。很多非基都如此行。
: 不信,下次可以到公共厕所偷偷的瞄一瞄!呵呵
: 无谓发以下这些长篇大论。割包皮和基督教已不嗒噶了
:
: have
: not

s*********t
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圣经都不明白就上来显丑!肤浅啊!
旧约犹太人的习俗的还有人拿来基版敲罗打鼓。

【在 c******i 的大作中提到】
: 赞真基个个天生包皮过长不洗澡“到公共厕所偷偷的瞄一瞄”直接改写圣经“割包皮和
: 基督教已不嗒噶了”

z********o
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你割了没有?明确一下嘛。
“圣经”“新约”明确要求女基督徒们在教会要“闭口不言”,请问你(或者你老婆)
遵守吗?
“圣经”“新约”明确要求基督徒们生病的时候要请人来抹油/祷告,请问你遵守吗?
基们嘴巴上把“圣经”说的神圣无比,行动上却把“圣经”的教导当成一个P放了。

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 圣经都不明白就上来显丑!肤浅啊!
: 旧约犹太人的习俗的还有人拿来基版敲罗打鼓。

c******i
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真基可以否定野合花的旧约了?
这不是新闻,关键是你觉得自己比耶稣牛叉吗?你凭啥和野合花对着干呢?
呵呵

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 圣经都不明白就上来显丑!肤浅啊!
: 旧约犹太人的习俗的还有人拿来基版敲罗打鼓。

s*********t
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对圣经一窍不通也跑过来奏个热闹?真是极品哈。。
把反基的脸给丢光了。

【在 c******i 的大作中提到】
: 真基可以否定野合花的旧约了?
: 这不是新闻,关键是你觉得自己比耶稣牛叉吗?你凭啥和野合花对着干呢?
: 呵呵

E*****m
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你到底割了沒?

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 对圣经一窍不通也跑过来奏个热闹?真是极品哈。。
: 把反基的脸给丢光了。

c******i
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旧约不算圣经吧?
这个真基割皮包?

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 对圣经一窍不通也跑过来奏个热闹?真是极品哈。。
: 把反基的脸给丢光了。

E*****m
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顯然沒有

【在 c******i 的大作中提到】
: 旧约不算圣经吧?
: 这个真基割皮包?

z********o
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旧约当然算“圣经”。

【在 c******i 的大作中提到】
: 旧约不算圣经吧?
: 这个真基割皮包?

s*********t
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呵呵。个人私隐恕不奉告。

【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】
:
: 顯然沒有

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E*****m
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顯然沒割

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵。个人私隐恕不奉告。
c******i
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不要随便judge,不许人家显然没有无需再割么?

【在 E*****m 的大作中提到】
:
: 顯然沒割

E*****m
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我向snoopy 道歉!

【在 c******i 的大作中提到】
: 不要随便judge,不许人家显然没有无需再割么?
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那个yale网上视频有割了包皮的进来看一下。
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蒙头抹油割包皮,真基反抗真积极杰森杨同学的万用回复
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