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l****z
发帖数: 29846
1
By Michael Filozof
What would happen if a black man armed with a handgun confronted "suspicious
persons" in his neighborhood? What would happen if the "suspicious persons"
were unarmed white teens, one of them was shot dead, and the shooter
claimed self-defense?
This is not an exercise in mere speculation. We know what would happen in
such a case. There would be no white mobs in the street chanting "No justice
, no peace!" There would be no whites holding a "million hoodie march" in
New York City. There would be no white equivalent of Al Sharpton, the
professional race-baiter behind the 1987 Tawana Brawley hoax, leading
marches in the streets of the shooter's hometown. There would be no Federal
civil rights investigation by the Justice Department. There would be no
comments from a president who seems congenitally unable to keep his mouth
shut on matters involving left-wing political correctness. And there would
be no national media attention from biased, left-wing "reporters."
We know this because in fact, such an event occurred in 2009 in Greece, N.Y.
, a suburb of Rochester. Roderick Scott, a black man, shot and killed an
unarmed white teen, Christopher Cervini, whom he believed was burglarizing a
neighbor's car, with a licensed .40 cal. handgun.
There are many similarities between the Scott-Cervini case and the George
Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case in Florida. In both cases, there had been a
spate of criminal activity in the neighborhood. In both cases, the shooters
called 911 to report suspicious activity, yet chose to confront the unarmed
suspects outside their residence and off their own property prior to the
arrival of the police. In both cases, the shooters claimed that they felt
threatened, and fired in self-defense. In both cases, local law enforcement
applied relevant state law.
Unlike Florida, New York does not have a "stand your ground" law. New York
law allows a person to use deadly force to defend his residence from home
invasion only as a last resort. It does not allow the use of deadly force to
prevent a property crime, and requires retreat if possible. Thus, while
Zimmerman was not arrested under Florida law, Scott was tried for
manslaughter.
New York law does allow a person to use deadly force anywhere, including off
his own property, if he feels that his life is in imminent danger and
retreat is not possible. Despite the fact that he left his own property,
confronted, and shot dead an unarmed white person thought to be committing a
petty property crime, Scott was acquitted by a majority-white jury after
claiming that the Cervini charged at him, putting him in imminent fear of
his life.
Despite the racial difference between the shooter and the decedent, there
were no allegations of racial bias. Scott was not charged with a hate crime.
There was no Federal civil rights investigation. There were no white
protests. The case was settled for what it was: a tragedy caused by a series
of poor decisions on behalf of the shooter, and a split-second decision
that will forever be second-guessed.
In all probability, the actions of Zimmerman in Florida were also based on a
series of poor decisions: the decision to follow a suspect after a police
dispatcher told him not to, the decision to confront a suspect with a
firearm off his own property, and a split-second decision to shoot an
unarmed person when Zimmerman felt his life was in imminent danger,
resulting in tragedy. But a tragedy is not necessarily a Federal civil
rights case - unless the mobs in the streets and their allies in the media
and government want to make it one.
The truth of the matter is that "civil rights" cases are often little more
than reverse lynch mobs. In the Old South of the past, white mobs would drag
black suspects out of jail and lynch them in the streets if they felt the
wheels of justice were turning too slowly. Today, black mobs, often led by
the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, lead street protests or riots,
and the Federal government comes after white suspects with the "rope" of "
civil rights" charges. And just like the old Southern sheriffs with ties to
the Klan who turned a blind eye to the illegal actions of whites, the
Department of Justice often refuses to act on "civil rights" violations when
the perpetrators are black and the victims are white. In the eyes of the
Federal government and the political Left, all whites are forever suspected
of being gap-toothed Klansmen with shotguns and nooses in their pickup
trucks, and all blacks are perpetually innocent, doe-eyed victims of white
oppression.
This dynamic was made perfectly clear twenty years ago by the Los Angeles
riots. Rodney King, a convicted felon, allegedly intoxicated, led police on
a high-speed car chase and resisted arrest when he was finally cornered.
Most people agree that the cops gave Rodney a few more licks than department
procedures called for. But given King's background and the extenuating
circumstances, the cops were acquitted of assault charges under state law.
The black population of L.A. erupted in riots that killed 53 people, ignited
thousands of arsons, and saw widespread looting. Korean merchants were
racially targeted for arson, and resorted to defending their property with
arms. Reginald Denny, a hapless white truck driver who inadvertently drove
into the riots, was pulled from his vehicle by black rioters who smashed his
skull in 91 places with a brick (inflicting far worse injuries than the
cops had inflicted on King) and danced a jig over his prone body.
Long before Eric Holder became Attorney General, refused to prosecute black
voter intimidation, and referred to blacks as "my people," the Department of
Justice caved in to the pressure of the rioters by charging and convicting
the L.A. cops with "civil rights" violations and sending them to Federal
prison. But no such Federal charges were levied against the blacks who
targeted the Koreans and attacked Reginald Denny.
Two years later, O.J. Simpson, a black defendant with a history of domestic
violence, was accused of slashing the throats of two white people. But no "
civil rights" or "hate crimes" charges were filed against him. No white
protests erupted against Simpson or against the black community. Simpson, a
black millionaire who had a career in sports, money, and fame that most
white people can only dream about, was portrayed as a "victim" of the "
racist" police. Blacks from coast to coast whooped and danced with joy when
he was acquitted of double murder.
Certainly it's true that in the past, blacks have been victims of whites.
But today the reality is quite different from what the street mobs, the
government, the media and the P.C. crowd would have us believe. Far from
being victims of white oppression, blacks today are disproportionately
perpetrators of violent crimes against whites and against other blacks.
According to data from the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in 2009, "whites" -- a
category that includes Hispanics -- were known to be responsible for 5,286
murders. Blacks, a mere 13% of the population, were known to be responsible
for 5,980 murders. In 2005, the New Century Foundation's "Color of Crime"
report found that "Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than
against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent
are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime,
only three percent of their victims are black" (emphasis mine). Also in 2005
, the Department of Justice reported that one-third of rapes committed
against white women (approximately 37,000) were perpetrated by blacks, while
less than ten -- statistically zero -- rapes of black women were committed
by whites.
Whatever happened in the George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case, one thing is
perfectly clear: it's high time this country quit the racial dog-and-pony
show, and judged each criminal case on its individual merits instead of
allowing the race-baiting demagogues to leverage each incident for political
advantage in the streets and in the media.
w******g
发帖数: 2047
2
What everyone is afraid to say is, and what will not be a needed part of the
dialogue over this incident is this.... the black community as a whole
bares a lot of weight for the way others view them, especially young black
men. It is a fact that every major city in this country is plagued by out-of
-control black gang/thug violence, drugs, crime, and general anti-society
lifestyles. If the black community would stand up to this type of behavior
and take it upon itself to fight as hard to change this as it does
portraying itself as the victim, then and only then will the rest of society
start to look upon them without the fear and suspicions that now exist. The
Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons can't wait to get in front of the cameras
and lead the demonstrations of how they're victimized, but they won't stand
up to the heart of the problem.
l******a
发帖数: 3803
3
Very well said.
In the beginning off all messes, the big bang came to existence I tend to
believe in good will.
This country needs justice and make-rights old wrongs.
Say the country is like a car that needs to drive to San Francisco from
Midwest.
We'd been there already around 1990s. With intentional negligence from the
left,
This car still goes on, sinking to the ocean. Well done liberals.

the
of
society
The

【在 w******g 的大作中提到】
: What everyone is afraid to say is, and what will not be a needed part of the
: dialogue over this incident is this.... the black community as a whole
: bares a lot of weight for the way others view them, especially young black
: men. It is a fact that every major city in this country is plagued by out-of
: -control black gang/thug violence, drugs, crime, and general anti-society
: lifestyles. If the black community would stand up to this type of behavior
: and take it upon itself to fight as hard to change this as it does
: portraying itself as the victim, then and only then will the rest of society
: start to look upon them without the fear and suspicions that now exist. The
: Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons can't wait to get in front of the cameras

sa
发帖数: 1384
4
let me ask you two this one question:
If you were G. Zimmerman, and you've shot a white guy, do you think the
Police will treat you favorably as they did to Zimmerman?
I know young blacks could be intimidating to all of us, but we shouldn't
pretend that we are white, because whites won't take us as one of their own.

the
black
out-
society
behavior
cameras

【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: Very well said.
: In the beginning off all messes, the big bang came to existence I tend to
: believe in good will.
: This country needs justice and make-rights old wrongs.
: Say the country is like a car that needs to drive to San Francisco from
: Midwest.
: We'd been there already around 1990s. With intentional negligence from the
: left,
: This car still goes on, sinking to the ocean. Well done liberals.
:

y****t
发帖数: 10233
5
we dont pretend we are white. we are who we are.
为了$17,搞死康金红的黑人小混混,现在怎么样了.
你以为你不是白人,黑人就不找你了?

own.

【在 sa 的大作中提到】
: let me ask you two this one question:
: If you were G. Zimmerman, and you've shot a white guy, do you think the
: Police will treat you favorably as they did to Zimmerman?
: I know young blacks could be intimidating to all of us, but we shouldn't
: pretend that we are white, because whites won't take us as one of their own.
:
: the
: black
: out-
: society

l******a
发帖数: 3803
6
You must have benefit from being sided with blacks. Of course, there is
racial profiling, such as black hatred everybody else. You don't think the
half population in jail are result of racism, do you?
Funny that, if you allow me to ask back, if you can feed your family, dot
you thank black mobs, or whites? Of course, some whites hate Asian s , but
does that overwhelmed by the cut black did to this country and deeply affect
how e live our lives. And, do you assume nappy jokes will support you on
compensating affirmative actions that Asians suffered years and years.
Sure liberals want you to think out of what is decency, and bleed us to
death so the few liberal perv s can rule forever. Man , let's put it this
way, people like me are merely trying to prolong that doomsday if its
inevitable.
again, you are free to live with black mobs in free life or in jails.

own.

【在 sa 的大作中提到】
: let me ask you two this one question:
: If you were G. Zimmerman, and you've shot a white guy, do you think the
: Police will treat you favorably as they did to Zimmerman?
: I know young blacks could be intimidating to all of us, but we shouldn't
: pretend that we are white, because whites won't take us as one of their own.
:
: the
: black
: out-
: society

l******a
发帖数: 3803
7
Chinese are known for knacks on seeking benefits in any possible way. Good
in math, but how did some get so screwed up to believe no matter how we
Chinese suffer from blacks randomly kill Chinese, stealing Asian.s
brilliant kids' right to higher education, we will be beneficial at the end
if w side with mobs and vote their monkey butthead to whiter house........
whoever please help me connect the missing dots.

【在 y****t 的大作中提到】
: we dont pretend we are white. we are who we are.
: 为了$17,搞死康金红的黑人小混混,现在怎么样了.
: 你以为你不是白人,黑人就不找你了?
:
: own.

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