k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 1 是否支持affirmative action?
Romney: No
Obama: Yes
如何处理Medicare program的资金困境?
Romney: 改革Medicare
Obama: 给高收入者($250k+)增税
非法移民是否应赋予合法身份?
Romney: No
Obama: Yes
硕士以上外国留学生是否应获得美国绿卡?
Romney: Yes
Obama: No
如何减少美国的财政赤字?
Romney: 关闭tax loophole(他在任麻州州长期间找到并关闭了22个麻州的tax
loophole),降低联邦雇员的工资和退休金,cap federal spending,改革Medicare。
Obama: 给高收入($250k+)者增税。给capital gain增税。提高联邦debt ceiling。
联邦政府是否应支持同性恋婚姻?
Romney: No
Obama: Yes |
a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 2 As far as I know,niether Obama nor Romney stated anything on these issues.
Did you makeup all these items?
非法移民是否应赋予合法身份?
Romney: No
Obama: Yes
非法移民在美国出生的孩子是否应自动获得美国公民身份?
Romney: No
Obama: Yes
硕士以上外国留学生是否应获得美国绿卡?
Romney: Yes
Obama: No
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是否支持affirmative action? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 如何处理Medicare program的资金困境? : Romney: 改革Medicare : Obama: 给高收入者($250k+)增税 : 非法移民是否应赋予合法身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 硕士以上外国留学生是否应获得美国绿卡?
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k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 3 Then look here:
"The idea of an amnesty-type provision is something I oppose and continue to
oppose." - Romney
“reform that finally brings the 12 million people who are here illegally
out of the shadows by requiring them to take steps to become legal citizens"
- Obama
http://2012.candidate-comparison.org/?compare=Romney&vs=Obama&o
"Every foreign student who obtains an advanced degree in math, science, or
engineering at a U.S. university should be granted permanent residency." -
Romney
Obama has no such plan, therefore he doesn't support this.
http://www.mittromney.com/issues/immigration
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : As far as I know,niether Obama nor Romney stated anything on these issues. : Did you makeup all these items? : 非法移民是否应赋予合法身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 非法移民在美国出生的孩子是否应自动获得美国公民身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 硕士以上外国留学生是否应获得美国绿卡? : Romney: Yes
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 4 "The idea of an amnesty-type provision is something I oppose and continue to
: oppose." - Romney
George W Bush said something similar. there is nothing wrong saying this.
“reform that finally brings the 12 million people who are here illegally
citizens"
George W Bush said something similar too. there is nothing wrong saying this
too.
What is your point?
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k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 5 Show me what exactly GWB said, that is "similar" to what Obama said.
Also, Obama not only "said" it, he's actively pushing legislation to
make it a reality.
to
this
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "The idea of an amnesty-type provision is something I oppose and continue to : : oppose." - Romney : George W Bush said something similar. there is nothing wrong saying this. : “reform that finally brings the 12 million people who are here illegally : citizens" : George W Bush said something similar too. there is nothing wrong saying this : too. : What is your point? : to : citizens"
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 6 I am not interested in showing you it.
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Show me what exactly GWB said, that is "similar" to what Obama said. : Also, Obama not only "said" it, he's actively pushing legislation to : make it a reality. : : to : this
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k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 7 lol, if you can't back up your argument, then I give your question back to
you: "Did you makeup all these items?"
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I am not interested in showing you it.
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 8 frankly speaking, if you post something, please keep it true and accurate.
You may put some spin on anyting you write, but first of all please do not
post false statements.
It is very easy to see who posted something false. Most people here read
much more newspaper and TV much more than you. Man...
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : lol, if you can't back up your argument, then I give your question back to : you: "Did you makeup all these items?"
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k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 9 Yet I'm the one who backed up my post with source, and you are "not
interested in showing me" your source. Who's posting false
information now?
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : frankly speaking, if you post something, please keep it true and accurate. : You may put some spin on anyting you write, but first of all please do not : post false statements. : It is very easy to see who posted something false. Most people here read : much more newspaper and TV much more than you. Man...
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 10 go home...
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Yet I'm the one who backed up my post with source, and you are "not : interested in showing me" your source. Who's posting false : information now?
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m*****g 发帖数: 3029 | 11
Obama's opinions on these issues are well-known.
are you stupid or what?
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : As far as I know,niether Obama nor Romney stated anything on these issues. : Did you makeup all these items? : 非法移民是否应赋予合法身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 非法移民在美国出生的孩子是否应自动获得美国公民身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 硕士以上外国留学生是否应获得美国绿卡? : Romney: Yes
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 12 if you exchange Romney and Obama in his post, all of them are still valid. |
k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 13 then show me your source for this claim, or are you "not interested in
showing me" your source again? without source, your claim has zero
argumentative value.
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : if you exchange Romney and Obama in his post, all of them are still valid.
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m*****g 发帖数: 3029 | 14
idiot
search Obama's talks and you will know.
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : if you exchange Romney and Obama in his post, all of them are still valid.
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 15 I don't need to search anything. I support obama, the president , my
president. nobody else.
【在 m*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : idiot : search Obama's talks and you will know.
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k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 16 Good for you, then why do you not know his stance on issues and once
we showed you, you want to reverse his stance with Romney?
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I don't need to search anything. I support obama, the president , my : president. nobody else.
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 17 First of all, there is no Yes No to all of your questions, because if there
is an answer to them, the economy problem will be fixed. Both candidates'
answers are very vague on all these questions.
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : then show me your source for this claim, or are you "not interested in : showing me" your source again? without source, your claim has zero : argumentative value.
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s*********r 发帖数: 9493 | 18 别争了。这两个党过去都没有善待过华人,现在也都不拿华人利益当回事儿。未来华人
的权益怎么样要靠我们自己一起去争取,在这里替外人争短长真的没有意义。 |
k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 19 All the yes/no questions are pretty clear, I don't see anything
vague here, Romney said he oppose, Obama said he support, and he
actually did push for the legislation.
there
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : First of all, there is no Yes No to all of your questions, because if there : is an answer to them, the economy problem will be fixed. Both candidates' : answers are very vague on all these questions.
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 20 ?????????????. you madeup this. show me some english.....
非法移民在美国出生的孩子是否应自动获得美国公民身份?
Romney: No
Obama: Yes
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : All the yes/no questions are pretty clear, I don't see anything : vague here, Romney said he oppose, Obama said he support, and he : actually did push for the legislation. : : there
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k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 21 善不善待是另一回事,但是各种政策都会多多少少影响到美国华人。比如AA就是
很明显的一个例子。另外绝大部分华人都不会受到低收入减税的好处,而相当
一部分会受到增税的冲击。
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 别争了。这两个党过去都没有善待过华人,现在也都不拿华人利益当回事儿。未来华人 : 的权益怎么样要靠我们自己一起去争取,在这里替外人争短长真的没有意义。
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 22 I support affirmative action acts
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 善不善待是另一回事,但是各种政策都会多多少少影响到美国华人。比如AA就是 : 很明显的一个例子。另外绝大部分华人都不会受到低收入减税的好处,而相当 : 一部分会受到增税的冲击。
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 23 在美国出生的孩子???
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 善不善待是另一回事,但是各种政策都会多多少少影响到美国华人。比如AA就是 : 很明显的一个例子。另外绝大部分华人都不会受到低收入减税的好处,而相当 : 一部分会受到增税的冲击。
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k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 24 Sure, that's your decision to make, and you rightly support Obama,
since Obama support AA too.
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I support affirmative action acts
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k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 25 哦这个是我看错了,我把原帖改一下。
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 在美国出生的孩子???
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 26 you better revise all of your items, because all of them are false.
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哦这个是我看错了,我把原帖改一下。
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k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 27 I already showed you the source for the other ones you questioned.
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : you better revise all of your items, because all of them are false.
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 28 Without affirmative action, all you women are still homemakers. Don't even
think about coming to mitbbs....
\【 在 atxt (一本文) 的大作中提到: 】 |
k**o 发帖数: 15334 | 29 No that's civil rights, AA means if you are black, you get something
like +50 points in admission decision, if you are Asian, you get
-50 points, the argument is blacks are "under-represented" in college
population, and Asians are "over-represented". This is what AA is.
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Without affirmative action, all you women are still homemakers. Don't even : think about coming to mitbbs.... : \【 在 atxt (一本文) 的大作中提到: 】
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 30 no, not true
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : No that's civil rights, AA means if you are black, you get something : like +50 points in admission decision, if you are Asian, you get : -50 points, the argument is blacks are "under-represented" in college : population, and Asians are "over-represented". This is what AA is.
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m*****g 发帖数: 3029 | 31
he got no brain.
he vote for O8 but does not know why
because he got no brain, he does not need to think
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Good for you, then why do you not know his stance on issues and once : we showed you, you want to reverse his stance with Romney?
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s**********e 发帖数: 2888 | 32 Any Chinese supporting AA Act is SB, period.
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : no, not true
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D*******o 发帖数: 3229 | 33 The 29-month OPT policy was passed in a GOP president term. Obama granted 24
-month EAD to illegal immigrants. It makes the issue clear. |
D*******o 发帖数: 3229 | 34 Agree.
发信人: sulforaphane (sulforaphane), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 几个跟华人有关的issue,看了你再决定选谁
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Sep 4 12:36:26 2012, 美东)
Any Chinese supporting AA Act is SB, period. |
m*****g 发帖数: 3029 | 35
It is SB.
SB Woo.
they do not deny it. SB Woo is a clear message itself.
【在 s**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Any Chinese supporting AA Act is SB, period.
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m******O 发帖数: 596 | 36 这样说过分了,80-20的立场是明确反对AAction。
然而又要支持民主党。
所以我说这就是玩双手左右互搏呢。
【在 m*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : It is SB. : SB Woo. : they do not deny it. SB Woo is a clear message itself.
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m*****g 发帖数: 3029 | 37
it is why I said they are SB.
【在 m******O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这样说过分了,80-20的立场是明确反对AAction。 : 然而又要支持民主党。 : 所以我说这就是玩双手左右互搏呢。
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z****0 发帖数: 3942 | 38 谢谢! 但你写的总结非常误导。
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是否支持affirmative action? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 如何处理Medicare program的资金困境? : Romney: 改革Medicare : Obama: 给高收入者($250k+)增税 : 非法移民是否应赋予合法身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 硕士以上外国留学生是否应获得美国绿卡?
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J********y 发帖数: 263 | 39 Princeton sociologist Thomas Espenshade performed rigorous analyses
on the vast “National Study of College Experience” (NSCE) database and
released the empirical findings in his 2009 book [1]: To receive equal
consideration by elite colleges, Asian Americans must outperform Whites
by 140 points, Hispanics by 280 points, Blacks by 450 points in SAT (Total
1600).
[1] "No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal: Race and Class in Elite College
Admission and Campus Life" by Thomas Espenshade (Princeton
University Press, 2009)
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : No that's civil rights, AA means if you are black, you get something : like +50 points in admission decision, if you are Asian, you get : -50 points, the argument is blacks are "under-represented" in college : population, and Asians are "over-represented". This is what AA is.
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T*******i 发帖数: 805 | 40 还有啊,竞选口号能当人话听么?竞选时说得天花乱坠,上台后我行我素,你能奈他何
?再选一次?没问题啦。咱不是还有媒体与竞选语言么。
认真你就已经输了。
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 别争了。这两个党过去都没有善待过华人,现在也都不拿华人利益当回事儿。未来华人 : 的权益怎么样要靠我们自己一起去争取,在这里替外人争短长真的没有意义。
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d*****s 发帖数: 5610 | 41 Romney关闭tax loophole一条就是要取消房屋贷款interest deduction, property tax
deduction, state and local income tax deduction.
光这一条,对大多数中产来说,如果是30万美元的贷款余额,4%的利率,就是taxable
income增加12000一年,再加上property tax 10k, state and local income tax 起码
10k,等于是taxable income在Romney下面要涨 32k,tax就起码增加一万多一年。
估计这个版上买房子的要心疼了。
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是否支持affirmative action? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 如何处理Medicare program的资金困境? : Romney: 改革Medicare : Obama: 给高收入者($250k+)增税 : 非法移民是否应赋予合法身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 硕士以上外国留学生是否应获得美国绿卡?
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t*b 发帖数: 850 | 42 I know you are from 80-20, the Democratic party
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ?????????????. you madeup this. show me some english..... : 非法移民在美国出生的孩子是否应自动获得美国公民身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes
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s****n 发帖数: 612 | 43 fuck you, you stupid asshole, period.
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I support affirmative action acts
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 44 i 100% suport 80-20, because we look similar
【在 t*b 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I know you are from 80-20, the Democratic party
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 45 do u have a box, if u do, i 'll do u
【在 s****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : fuck you, you stupid asshole, period.
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M*****8 发帖数: 17722 | 46
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正解。大选的承诺多数是空头支票。
如果国会不通过,总统刚好推掉责任。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/USANews/31342903.html
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 别争了。这两个党过去都没有善待过华人,现在也都不拿华人利益当回事儿。未来华人 : 的权益怎么样要靠我们自己一起去争取,在这里替外人争短长真的没有意义。
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k**L 发帖数: 3630 | 47 oh please. those are simply politician talk. simply put, they are not saying
they would or would not. simply showing they "might" be considering doing
those. for politicians,it's worth less than a used toilet paper. for example
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"The idea of an amnesty-type provision is something I oppose and continue to
oppose." - Romney
----translation. I don't give a shit.
“reform that finally brings the 12 million people who are here illegally
out of the shadows by requiring them to take steps to become legal citizens"
- Obama
translation: it's like gun control, I can say we all need it, but no one can
actually get it done. but hey, at least I said it so you fools would vote
for me.
http://2012.candidate-comparison.org/?compare=Romney&vs=Obama&o
"Every foreign student who obtains an advanced degree in math, science, or
engineering at a U.S. university should be granted permanent residency." -
Romney
translation -- LOL, got your attention didn't I, it's just bullshit.I can
say every foreign billionaire as rich as me should be granted permanent
residency.but that would make me look bad.
Obama has no such plan, therefore he doesn't support this.
translation, LZ, you are wrong, Obama is considering every foreigner who
obtains any degree should be granted permanent. Proof? "reform that finally
brings the 12 million people who are here illegally
out of the shadows by requiring them to take steps to become legal citizens"
. If Obama is this thoughtful towards illegal aliens, what do you think he
would do to LEGAL aliens?
http://www.mittromney.com/issues/immigration |
d********g 发帖数: 7458 | 48 老实说房屋贷款interest deduction真的不公平。为什么穷人信用卡欠很多利息不能
deduction,有钱的买房子反而可以。房地产泡沫这也是注因之一。
tax
taxable
【在 d*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Romney关闭tax loophole一条就是要取消房屋贷款interest deduction, property tax : deduction, state and local income tax deduction. : 光这一条,对大多数中产来说,如果是30万美元的贷款余额,4%的利率,就是taxable : income增加12000一年,再加上property tax 10k, state and local income tax 起码 : 10k,等于是taxable income在Romney下面要涨 32k,tax就起码增加一万多一年。 : 估计这个版上买房子的要心疼了。
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k*****r 发帖数: 1435 | 49 请问如何改革medicare?更何况这个对探亲父母有用。
Romney怎么给外国学生绿卡,现在卡bill的都是共和党的,
退休金是有contract的,不能违反
另外我100%支持同性婚姻。
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是否支持affirmative action? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 如何处理Medicare program的资金困境? : Romney: 改革Medicare : Obama: 给高收入者($250k+)增税 : 非法移民是否应赋予合法身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 硕士以上外国留学生是否应获得美国绿卡?
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l****g 发帖数: 761 | 50 obama supporter 的智商让人不忍看下去 |
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d****v 发帖数: 458 | |
c***n 发帖数: 809 | 52 作为华人, 支持 affirmative action 简直脑残, affirmative action对大
把的华人子弟只有坏处没有好处.
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I support affirmative action acts
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w******t 发帖数: 16937 | 53 不要看说了什么,因为这是为了拿到选票。
要看都做过什么,因为这是真的做过的。
【在 k**o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是否支持affirmative action? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 如何处理Medicare program的资金困境? : Romney: 改革Medicare : Obama: 给高收入者($250k+)增税 : 非法移民是否应赋予合法身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 硕士以上外国留学生是否应获得美国绿卡?
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v****7 发帖数: 67 | 54 用北京话说: 大SB
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I don't need to search anything. I support obama, the president , my : president. nobody else.
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 55 you big sb
【在 v****7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 用北京话说: 大SB
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g****g 发帖数: 221 | |
t**i 发帖数: 511 | 57 支持, 和你想的差不多
【在 k*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 请问如何改革medicare?更何况这个对探亲父母有用。 : Romney怎么给外国学生绿卡,现在卡bill的都是共和党的, : 退休金是有contract的,不能违反 : 另外我100%支持同性婚姻。
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c***n 发帖数: 809 | 58 这要看政府鼓励什么, 房子多, 人人有产, 对社会稳定经济好处是明显的, 你难
到鼓励大家都是穷人欠一屁股债? 房地产泡沫是deduction? 这都是什么论点?
【在 d********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 老实说房屋贷款interest deduction真的不公平。为什么穷人信用卡欠很多利息不能 : deduction,有钱的买房子反而可以。房地产泡沫这也是注因之一。 : : tax : taxable
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s*******0 发帖数: 68 | 59
Oh poor girl. You need to grow up.
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I don't need to search anything. I support obama, the president , my : president. nobody else.
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s*******0 发帖数: 68 | 60
I cannot quite agree with you. If you intend to stay and become a citizen,
then the future of this country is of great importance not only to "外人",
but also to Chinese Americans.
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 别争了。这两个党过去都没有善待过华人,现在也都不拿华人利益当回事儿。未来华人 : 的权益怎么样要靠我们自己一起去争取,在这里替外人争短长真的没有意义。
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r***l 发帖数: 9084 | 61 我觉的政策上的问题大家可以商量,互相妥协就是了,也谈不上谁一定对一定错,但o8
为了连任搞的比较没品。竞选时候经济不敢谈,health care不敢提,狂打阶级斗争牌
,抓住republican are for rich这个猛打,然后把250k收入设个cut-off,这个250k是
怎么来的?为什么不是100k?不是150K? 明显O8是算计过得失的。gay marriage早不提
晚不提,大选年出来表态支持,明显是要拉年轻人的选票。当总统4年不到,从去年就
开始搞竞选活动,come on, you have a job in DC. Do your job! 两党有分歧,O8不
主动出来lead,因为患得患失了让自己连任失分,让两党自己去掐,当然国会啥也办不
成,然后O8跑出来说,see, republican is the problem. 可拜托,harry reid在参院
连众院通过的法案连讨论都不讨论。bottom line, 选你做总统是要把事情做好,是要
让两党合作,如果没做好,不要怪别人。health care这么大的事情,如果O8本着利国
利民的态度,应该自己出来领导达成两党的协议,可民主党控制的两院草草通过法案,
搞了个先天残疾的法案。
现在o8竞选搞的就是要选民根据收入站队,你觉的你是穷人就支持我,我多挣富人的税
,保证你福利,给你entitlement, 富人o8是不care了,反正富人毕竟人少。american
dream完全变了味,本来是fight for success,现在是hate/tax successful (rich)
people and get my entitlement.
不过entitlement问题还是要靠民主党解决,解铃还须系铃人,NY的民主党州长cuomo就
做的挺好,削减财政赤字,和union fight, 现在连共和党现在都支持他.O8未必不知
entitlement在把美国拉向深渊,搞阶级斗争是在撕裂国家,但为了连任都不顾了,其
实只要做对的事情,lead the country,大部分人还是会支持你的。O8和cuomo选择了截
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A**k 发帖数: 1978 | 63 Follow了这位仁兄几个回合的帖子,发现这不是思维有问题,就是来行艺的
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Without affirmative action, all you women are still homemakers. Don't even : think about coming to mitbbs.... : \【 在 atxt (一本文) 的大作中提到: 】
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d********m 发帖数: 507 | 64 I dont understand your point. One of the two major activities 80-20 is doing
recently is a call for signatures against AA. But you said you 100% support
80-20?
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I support affirmative action acts
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x****8 发帖数: 340 | 65 Re.
O8 就是毫无经验的毛头小子, 4年前机遇给了他这个总统的位置。 有一些想法(比如
新能源, 医改)是好的, 可是完全没有执行能力。 没有领导的魅力。 一个领导,
在事情不成功的时候, 不是一味的指责对方。 而是怎么样尽力去求同存异。 从过去
的几年的分裂国会, 到现在为了竞选分裂美国人民, 搞阶级斗争, 很是让人不齿。
跟土共那一套差不多。
o8
【在 r***l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我觉的政策上的问题大家可以商量,互相妥协就是了,也谈不上谁一定对一定错,但o8 : 为了连任搞的比较没品。竞选时候经济不敢谈,health care不敢提,狂打阶级斗争牌 : ,抓住republican are for rich这个猛打,然后把250k收入设个cut-off,这个250k是 : 怎么来的?为什么不是100k?不是150K? 明显O8是算计过得失的。gay marriage早不提 : 晚不提,大选年出来表态支持,明显是要拉年轻人的选票。当总统4年不到,从去年就 : 开始搞竞选活动,come on, you have a job in DC. Do your job! 两党有分歧,O8不 : 主动出来lead,因为患得患失了让自己连任失分,让两党自己去掐,当然国会啥也办不 : 成,然后O8跑出来说,see, republican is the problem. 可拜托,harry reid在参院 : 连众院通过的法案连讨论都不讨论。bottom line, 选你做总统是要把事情做好,是要 : 让两党合作,如果没做好,不要怪别人。health care这么大的事情,如果O8本着利国
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s*********t 发帖数: 4253 | 66 你们support 个屁。
人家一当了总统,来一句 “身不由己” 就把这一切promise 都给删了。 |
a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 67
saying
example
to
citizens"
【在 k**L 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : oh please. those are simply politician talk. simply put, they are not saying : they would or would not. simply showing they "might" be considering doing : those. for politicians,it's worth less than a used toilet paper. for example : , : "The idea of an amnesty-type provision is something I oppose and continue to : oppose." - Romney : ----translation. I don't give a shit. : “reform that finally brings the 12 million people who are here illegally : out of the shadows by requiring them to take steps to become legal citizens" : - Obama
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a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 68 good translation. i read english
saying
example
to
citizens"
【在 k**L 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : oh please. those are simply politician talk. simply put, they are not saying : they would or would not. simply showing they "might" be considering doing : those. for politicians,it's worth less than a used toilet paper. for example : , : "The idea of an amnesty-type provision is something I oppose and continue to : oppose." - Romney : ----translation. I don't give a shit. : “reform that finally brings the 12 million people who are here illegally : out of the shadows by requiring them to take steps to become legal citizens" : - Obama
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t******y 发帖数: 1352 | 69 如果探亲父母非美国人,这个medicare管的着吗?有劳才有得,没在美国劳过一天就张
嘴要吃美国的medicare,可能吗?自然是要有其子女给担着了。
咋不支持自由堕胎呢?昨儿晚民主党开大会可是喊了一晚上了
非美国人,自然看个热闹玩
【在 k*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 请问如何改革medicare?更何况这个对探亲父母有用。 : Romney怎么给外国学生绿卡,现在卡bill的都是共和党的, : 退休金是有contract的,不能违反 : 另外我100%支持同性婚姻。
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k****g 发帖数: 1509 | 71 Hi Atxt. obama supporter. U makes me sick.
我们移民的美国,是一个依靠个人努力奋斗,取得成功的国家。美国曾经并且一直就是
鼓励勤奋,鼓励冒险,充满机会的地方。这也是美国成为世界最强国的根本原因。
而奥巴马的美国,是一个政府不断膨胀,操控社会资源,通过空头的许诺和小恩小惠收
买民心。劣币驱逐良币的美国。这样的美国发展下去,不出50年就将拉美化,南欧化。
为了我们的子孙后代,对不起,奥巴马, no more!
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : As far as I know,niether Obama nor Romney stated anything on these issues. : Did you makeup all these items? : 非法移民是否应赋予合法身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 非法移民在美国出生的孩子是否应自动获得美国公民身份? : Romney: No : Obama: Yes : 硕士以上外国留学生是否应获得美国绿卡? : Romney: Yes
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C****t 发帖数: 3813 | 72 you seem reasonable, but there are still about 50% obama supporters. are
they all dumb? I don't want a mormon. If bush comes back, I would choose him
【在 k****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Hi Atxt. obama supporter. U makes me sick. : 我们移民的美国,是一个依靠个人努力奋斗,取得成功的国家。美国曾经并且一直就是 : 鼓励勤奋,鼓励冒险,充满机会的地方。这也是美国成为世界最强国的根本原因。 : 而奥巴马的美国,是一个政府不断膨胀,操控社会资源,通过空头的许诺和小恩小惠收 : 买民心。劣币驱逐良币的美国。这样的美国发展下去,不出50年就将拉美化,南欧化。 : 为了我们的子孙后代,对不起,奥巴马, no more!
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t**e 发帖数: 354 | 73 这人搞不清什么是Affrimative Action.还把妇女出来做事都当事说。
等他/她自己有孩子了就知道了。
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I support affirmative action acts
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D*******a 发帖数: 207 | 74
还真把自己当国家领导人了。对不起,美国是个无主之地,各路强盗相互斗争,要瓜分
这地。你做大做强,好,都被别人抢去了。不为自己争取利益的都不适合民主制度,他
们适合君主制度。
【在 k****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Hi Atxt. obama supporter. U makes me sick. : 我们移民的美国,是一个依靠个人努力奋斗,取得成功的国家。美国曾经并且一直就是 : 鼓励勤奋,鼓励冒险,充满机会的地方。这也是美国成为世界最强国的根本原因。 : 而奥巴马的美国,是一个政府不断膨胀,操控社会资源,通过空头的许诺和小恩小惠收 : 买民心。劣币驱逐良币的美国。这样的美国发展下去,不出50年就将拉美化,南欧化。 : 为了我们的子孙后代,对不起,奥巴马, no more!
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T******T 发帖数: 3066 | 75 NO kidding, that's like digging his own grave...
【在 s**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Any Chinese supporting AA Act is SB, period.
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T******T 发帖数: 3066 | 76 you must be fking kidding me, BUSH ??!!! OMFG..
him
【在 C****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : you seem reasonable, but there are still about 50% obama supporters. are : they all dumb? I don't want a mormon. If bush comes back, I would choose him
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