s*********r 发帖数: 9493 | 1 The theme of DNC tonight is: Let's move forward, not back!
The theme of RNC last week was: we built it! and we own this country! |
a**t 发帖数: 3833 | 2 rnc said a lot of a great america. what was that/
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The theme of DNC tonight is: Let's move forward, not back! : The theme of RNC last week was: we built it! and we own this country!
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s*********r 发帖数: 9493 | 3 and lots of God!
【在 a**t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : rnc said a lot of a great america. what was that/
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s********t 发帖数: 4150 | 4
==> Let's move forward despite the fiscal cliff ahead, as long as I'm in the
driver's seat.
==> and we are taking it back!!!
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The theme of DNC tonight is: Let's move forward, not back! : The theme of RNC last week was: we built it! and we own this country!
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z****0 发帖数: 3942 | 5 What RNC says is "All the money is created equal, no matter it's from
offshore sweatshop or from Wall street speculation." and "Success is a
success, I'm proud of getting ahead of other people."
What DNC says is "Success only counts when it's earned fair and square."
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The theme of DNC tonight is: Let's move forward, not back! : The theme of RNC last week was: we built it! and we own this country!
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J***M 发帖数: 254 | 6 You are spinning these out of proportion.
There are many blood sucking wall street bankers... But there are many more
honest people, including many Chinese families, who makes more than a
quarter of million dollar a year through honest ways.
The social welfare system will bankrupt this country just like many others
we have witnessed.
【在 z****0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : What RNC says is "All the money is created equal, no matter it's from : offshore sweatshop or from Wall street speculation." and "Success is a : success, I'm proud of getting ahead of other people." : What DNC says is "Success only counts when it's earned fair and square."
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z****0 发帖数: 3942 | 7 Just the opposite, without the social welfare system this country will fail
just like many Latin American countries. All the first world countries have
the same or better social welfare system than what US does.
more
【在 J***M 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : You are spinning these out of proportion. : There are many blood sucking wall street bankers... But there are many more : honest people, including many Chinese families, who makes more than a : quarter of million dollar a year through honest ways. : The social welfare system will bankrupt this country just like many others : we have witnessed.
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i**y 发帖数: 1170 | 8 welfare is fair and square?
【在 z****0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : What RNC says is "All the money is created equal, no matter it's from : offshore sweatshop or from Wall street speculation." and "Success is a : success, I'm proud of getting ahead of other people." : What DNC says is "Success only counts when it's earned fair and square."
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J***M 发帖数: 254 | 9 You really want to use Europe as a case to support your argument?
Don't get me wrong. I believe in some minimum social safety net. But beyond
that, nothing can replace a free enterprise system...at least no one has
found one yet.
To tell the truth, if people don't do well in China, it's probably ok for
them to blame the society. In the States, there are plenties of
opportunities... I have seen so many success stories among first generation
Chinese immigrants. If they can make it, why cannot others? |
z****0 发帖数: 3942 | 10 Yes, I feel some Europeans (British, Germany, Sweden, to name a few) have
better overall quality of life and fairness of society than Americans do.
beyond
generation
【在 J***M 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : You really want to use Europe as a case to support your argument? : Don't get me wrong. I believe in some minimum social safety net. But beyond : that, nothing can replace a free enterprise system...at least no one has : found one yet. : To tell the truth, if people don't do well in China, it's probably ok for : them to blame the society. In the States, there are plenties of : opportunities... I have seen so many success stories among first generation : Chinese immigrants. If they can make it, why cannot others?
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z****0 发帖数: 3942 | 11 It's not perfect, but's that's the best system so far for human beings. and
it's far better than pure capitalism.
【在 i**y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : welfare is fair and square?
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J***M 发帖数: 254 | 12 You are cherrypicking a few good ones... What about Ireland, Spain, Italy,
Greece, and even France? Overall, Europe is in decline at a faster pace than
US.
The reason why socilism works in some Northern European countries is that
they have a long tradition of sharing and few people tried to take advantage
of the system.
In US, the tradition is so summarized as the so-called "American dream",
which basically means becoming successful on your own merit through hard
work and talent. Also there's a large population of people who do not try
hard and want to rig the system at any cost. A welfare society will bankrupt
the country.
Personal accoutability is very important. Only those try hard deserve to be
saved.
【在 z****0 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Yes, I feel some Europeans (British, Germany, Sweden, to name a few) have : better overall quality of life and fairness of society than Americans do. : : beyond : generation
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s********t 发帖数: 4150 | 13 Another version:
GOP: Work hard, and earn your success!
DEM: Be a lazy parasite, the big government will cuddle you, and we'll make
sure to drag more people your way.
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The theme of DNC tonight is: Let's move forward, not back! : The theme of RNC last week was: we built it! and we own this country!
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