C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 1 Maybe I am wrong, but I am really confused here.
1. Working hard to make more money is greed?
2. Spend less NOT to stimulate the economy is greed?
3. Outsource to China to lower cost, make more money for shareholders is
greed, thus discouraged?
4. Lower the employees' salary is greed? Consider the employees are still
willing to work for the salary I offered, does this already mean I am still
the highest bidder of their labor, thus I am actually still the most
generous person in the world for them? And you call me greed?
What is a generous, good citizen?
1. Spent unresponsibly, thus stumulate the economy?
2. Borrow money to spend, thus enable my fellow citizens to make money?
3. Run a business with very high cost of labor and material, thus I make
less or no money, to enable others have a good life? But that hurts my
customers, right? As my price is unevidently higher?
Please correct me, I am confused here. | m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 2 Greed is not defined by how much money you get. It is an altitude towards
the people. It means that the 0.1% want to live in luxury like a king, while
others have to live paycheck by paycheck to put the food on the platter and
wait to die when they are sick.
still
【在 C****n 的大作中提到】
: Maybe I am wrong, but I am really confused here.
: 1. Working hard to make more money is greed?
: 2. Spend less NOT to stimulate the economy is greed?
: 3. Outsource to China to lower cost, make more money for shareholders is
: greed, thus discouraged?
: 4. Lower the employees' salary is greed? Consider the employees are still
: willing to work for the salary I offered, does this already mean I am still
: the highest bidder of their labor, thus I am actually still the most
: generous person in the world for them? And you call me greed?
: What is a generous, good citizen?
| C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 3 I still don't see anything wrong with this picture.
If I want to live a life like a king, actually I always want to live a life
like a king. So I am greed?
Do you always want to live a life like a bum on the street?
I refuse to be an ordinary joe on the street, I always want a luxury life,
and I work for it, not breaking any laws of course.
And you think I am wrong and greedy? Where the American DREAM?
If you want to be just another Joe, it's your dream. I want to live like a
king, that's my dream, and I am proud of my dream, and I am doing everything
I can to realize my dream!
And you just assume your dream should come easy, without working hard! No
dream except poverty comes easy! And ordinary life is not easy! Work for it,
buddy!
while
and
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: Greed is not defined by how much money you get. It is an altitude towards
: the people. It means that the 0.1% want to live in luxury like a king, while
: others have to live paycheck by paycheck to put the food on the platter and
: wait to die when they are sick.
:
: still
| l******a
发帖数: 3803 | 4
life
everything
both poor and rich want to live like a king/queen/queer ---
but only rich work the hassle to get it even though some inherit wealth from
their dad. And the healthy tards choose the food stamp path.
But Odumba also repeatedly talked his dad that have not been with him for
any days long. He chose to only inherit the skin-armor to get through
election.
【在 C****n 的大作中提到】
: I still don't see anything wrong with this picture.
: If I want to live a life like a king, actually I always want to live a life
: like a king. So I am greed?
: Do you always want to live a life like a bum on the street?
: I refuse to be an ordinary joe on the street, I always want a luxury life,
: and I work for it, not breaking any laws of course.
: And you think I am wrong and greedy? Where the American DREAM?
: If you want to be just another Joe, it's your dream. I want to live like a
: king, that's my dream, and I am proud of my dream, and I am doing everything
: I can to realize my dream!
| C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 5 Agreed. The left make my "dream" look "greedy"! And especially after I
realized my dream, they say it's a result of "greedy"! Not a result of hard
work.
The left, has no idea how hard I worked, and how many difficult decision I
have to made with my life, and how many things I have sacrificed with my
life to get where I am today, and they want to call me greedy!
Give you an example: It's a RIGHT to spend time with your family. It seems a
noble and reasonable request, right? Well, I sacrificed my "RIGHT", came
here to US to work my ass off just by myself! I stay here 7 years not going
back to China, in order to get my greencard, worked in Christmas, Chinese
new year!
And the left stay with their family watching Cable TV subsidized by the
government, taking foodstamps, whinning about I am greedy!
from
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
:
: life
: everything
: both poor and rich want to live like a king/queen/queer ---
: but only rich work the hassle to get it even though some inherit wealth from
: their dad. And the healthy tards choose the food stamp path.
: But Odumba also repeatedly talked his dad that have not been with him for
: any days long. He chose to only inherit the skin-armor to get through
: election.
| m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 6 You may want to know the fact that the rich do not "work" towards wealth but
invest towards wealth. Their money are not derived from their labor. If you
have to labor yourselves, you are not the 0.1% but a working class. After
understand this, you will see what you describe are not greed but hard work.
It is like a physician work 80 hours a week to get a $200K salary, a hard
work. But it is different when a CEO works 60 hours a week to get a $200,000
,000 K salary. They do not labor to get this money.
life
everything
【在 C****n 的大作中提到】
: I still don't see anything wrong with this picture.
: If I want to live a life like a king, actually I always want to live a life
: like a king. So I am greed?
: Do you always want to live a life like a bum on the street?
: I refuse to be an ordinary joe on the street, I always want a luxury life,
: and I work for it, not breaking any laws of course.
: And you think I am wrong and greedy? Where the American DREAM?
: If you want to be just another Joe, it's your dream. I want to live like a
: king, that's my dream, and I am proud of my dream, and I am doing everything
: I can to realize my dream!
| C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 7 You are funny, are you sure you know what you are talking about?
Invest to make money is not easy either. I have money, and invested, and
lost my money.
It's completely legitimate for CEOs to make $200M per year, and I respect
that, they are my role model. But the best role model is Romney, making
money by investment. If you think that's easy, go work in WallStreet. John
Paulson made a lot money in financial crisis.
I can't imagine you think make money by labor is somehow more noble than
make money by investment. By labor is also an investment. If I give you $10K
, can you make me $100 each month? If it's guaranteed, I will do it with you
all day long.
For the CEO, that's even more ridiculous. CEO is also making money by labor.
Go take Tim Cook's job, see if you can do better than him. If not, don't
envy him making billions.
but
you
work.
000
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: You may want to know the fact that the rich do not "work" towards wealth but
: invest towards wealth. Their money are not derived from their labor. If you
: have to labor yourselves, you are not the 0.1% but a working class. After
: understand this, you will see what you describe are not greed but hard work.
: It is like a physician work 80 hours a week to get a $200K salary, a hard
: work. But it is different when a CEO works 60 hours a week to get a $200,000
: ,000 K salary. They do not labor to get this money.
:
: life
: everything
| j****n
发帖数: 464 | 8 赞， 跟 初中政治课本 对资本主义的 解释 一模一样。
but
you
work.
000
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: You may want to know the fact that the rich do not "work" towards wealth but
: invest towards wealth. Their money are not derived from their labor. If you
: have to labor yourselves, you are not the 0.1% but a working class. After
: understand this, you will see what you describe are not greed but hard work.
: It is like a physician work 80 hours a week to get a $200K salary, a hard
: work. But it is different when a CEO works 60 hours a week to get a $200,000
: ,000 K salary. They do not labor to get this money.
:
: life
: everything
| m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 9 The fact that is clear to many of us, is following,the top 0.1% increasingly
get more of the wealth created, when others get less. Under current system,
the rich are getting more not less. In the past
10 years, top 0.1% retained almost all the wealth, while others were
unchanged or decreased. But they still complain about to be the "victim" of
the system and advocate to want more of the share by a mechanism of cutting
their tax further.
The perpetrated lie is carried by the people they hired or they brainwashed
to volunteer, that is, you. It is laughable. I am not against to create more
wealth to make the pie bigger. I am laughing at you because under the
current system it is already working in favor of the top 0.1% and you are
still asking us to give them more.
This the main point we disagree. It is not given that CEO get $200M. It will
be ok only when the labor get their fair share as well.
10K
you
【在 C****n 的大作中提到】
: You are funny, are you sure you know what you are talking about?
: Invest to make money is not easy either. I have money, and invested, and
: lost my money.
: It's completely legitimate for CEOs to make $200M per year, and I respect
: that, they are my role model. But the best role model is Romney, making
: money by investment. If you think that's easy, go work in WallStreet. John
: Paulson made a lot money in financial crisis.
: I can't imagine you think make money by labor is somehow more noble than
: make money by investment. By labor is also an investment. If I give you $10K
: , can you make me $100 each month? If it's guaranteed, I will do it with you
| C****n
发帖数: 2324 | 10 Don't judge me, you have no idea how much I make per year. And it makes no
sense for me to disclose my income, so let's not get ourselves involved when
we debate.
I am not brainwashed. I just think the rich already pay their fair share,
actually more than they should pay.
I am not talking for the super rich, I am talking about the upper middle
class, who is hurt so much, that they may give up their effort to become
rich. They make somewhere between $200K and $1M or even $2M, and Obama want
to make sure these people to go back to middle class.
People like you, can not do anything to the real rich, but instead, hurt the
"hard working" middle class.
CEO making $200M a year, why don't you work toward their job, instead
whinning about they make too much? If you can't do their job, does that mean
their work worth that much?
The opportunity is there, go and get it. Don't complain somebody who got it.
You have no clue how hard they worked toward that position.
increasingly
system,
of
cutting
brainwashed
more
【在 m*********a 的大作中提到】
: The fact that is clear to many of us, is following,the top 0.1% increasingly
: get more of the wealth created, when others get less. Under current system,
: the rich are getting more not less. In the past
: 10 years, top 0.1% retained almost all the wealth, while others were
: unchanged or decreased. But they still complain about to be the "victim" of
: the system and advocate to want more of the share by a mechanism of cutting
: their tax further.
: The perpetrated lie is carried by the people they hired or they brainwashed
: to volunteer, that is, you. It is laughable. I am not against to create more
: wealth to make the pie bigger. I am laughing at you because under the
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