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发帖数: 29846 | 1 Why France Can't Fight
Years of shortchanging defense are showing up in its Africa campaign..
The French armed forces field some of the world's most sophisticated fighter
jets, nuclear submarines, attack helicopters and armored vehicles. The
country spent $52 billion last year on defense, which puts it in the world's
top league in total military spending. That's more than twice what such
robust middle powers as South Korea, Turkey and Israel spend.
Yet in its commendable efforts to fight terrorists in Mali, Paris is all but
begging for logistical and military support and has come up short on
everything from refuelling to surveillance to heavy transport. Independently
deploying a brigade-sized force to a country a mere five hours flight-time
away is proving a bridge too far. How did that happen?
The question is worth asking because it tells us something about the nature
of current European militaries—and perhaps the future of the U.S. military,
too.
Consider personnel costs. In the U.S., military planners fret that the
Pentagon spends $107 billion of its roughly $600 billion budget on salaries,
another $53 billion or so on health care, and another $50 billion on
retirement costs. In France, the Defense Ministry spends an astounding 50%
of its total budget on personnel costs.
Some of that is the result of moving to an all-volunteer force, as France
did in 1996, which has made the military smaller but more professional. But
the bulk of the problem is that the Defense Ministry spends | l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 2 Quintus Cicero Wrote:
So, in general terms;
France can barely transport and has absolutely no hope of maintaining a
force of approx. 3500 men
( 1 Brigade) across a distance roughly equal to a flight from New York City
to Las Vegas without outside help?
This is not due to a 20% allocation of funds for NON combat tasks/equipment
/support etc., its due to to-little being allocated TO the Military overall.
Why? Because France cannot ( and will not) allocate more to the Military
budget becasue its tied up in ....what?
Entitlements, social safety nets, whats generally called the European style
welfare state...thats why.
The real lesson here is-
those calling for the gutting of the US military to solve our deficit/debt
and general budgetary problems are just engaged is creating a smoke screen.
Whats just been described as to Frances military 'prowess' is as good as it
gets Militarily in Europe....its not Defense spending. | k****g
发帖数: 1509 | 3 Possible if allowing gays in army.
fighter
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【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: Why France Can't Fight
: Years of shortchanging defense are showing up in its Africa campaign..
: The French armed forces field some of the world's most sophisticated fighter
: jets, nuclear submarines, attack helicopters and armored vehicles. The
: country spent $52 billion last year on defense, which puts it in the world's
: top league in total military spending. That's more than twice what such
: robust middle powers as South Korea, Turkey and Israel spend.
: Yet in its commendable efforts to fight terrorists in Mali, Paris is all but
: begging for logistical and military support and has come up short on
: everything from refuelling to surveillance to heavy transport. Independently
| X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 4 等不到那天，竞争对手和手下败将们早就跳起来重新抢资源了。
痢博可以立法让奇怪的人成为 Solider，但无法 convince 德，俄甚至日本人，
男人 + 妇女 + 人妖的幽默小品式组合，能够打赢百分之百纯种的钢铁雄师 | P*********0
发帖数: 4321 | 5 Who cares about US military.
fighter
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【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: Why France Can't Fight
: Years of shortchanging defense are showing up in its Africa campaign..
: The French armed forces field some of the world's most sophisticated fighter
: jets, nuclear submarines, attack helicopters and armored vehicles. The
: country spent $52 billion last year on defense, which puts it in the world's
: top league in total military spending. That's more than twice what such
: robust middle powers as South Korea, Turkey and Israel spend.
: Yet in its commendable efforts to fight terrorists in Mali, Paris is all but
: begging for logistical and military support and has come up short on
: everything from refuelling to surveillance to heavy transport. Independently
| b******o
发帖数: 5644 | 6 同性恋的军队战斗力据说很强，美军这是在寻求新时期的新发展。 | b*******n
发帖数: 8420 | 7 因为能攻能受？哈哈
【在 b******o 的大作中提到】
: 同性恋的军队战斗力据说很强，美军这是在寻求新时期的新发展。
| l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 8 男人 + 妇女 + 人妖的幽默小品式组合
哈哈, 这个评论太好笑了.
【在 X***R 的大作中提到】
: 等不到那天，竞争对手和手下败将们早就跳起来重新抢资源了。
: 痢博可以立法让奇怪的人成为 Solider，但无法 convince 德，俄甚至日本人，
: 男人 + 妇女 + 人妖的幽默小品式组合，能够打赢百分之百纯种的钢铁雄师
| X***R
发帖数: 2410 | 9 怪物军团不是二十一世纪美军的新发明，
三世纪开始玩完的罗马帝国不就有么，
阴性气质在军队中蔓延，被人直接揍成了猪头
【在 b******o 的大作中提到】
: 同性恋的军队战斗力据说很强，美军这是在寻求新时期的新发展。
| l******a
发帖数: 3803 | 10
哈哈，基佬们顶多也就是gay parade还行。
【在 X***R 的大作中提到】
: 怪物军团不是二十一世纪美军的新发明，
: 三世纪开始玩完的罗马帝国不就有么，
: 阴性气质在军队中蔓延，被人直接揍成了猪头
| p**j
发帖数: 7063 | 11 不用跟法军比，跟Alamo比就行了。德克萨斯人代表了过去的美国人，墨西哥军代表了
将来的美国人。
***************
1836年2月23日墨西哥的独裁者Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna将军率领一支7000人的队
伍长途跋涉，围攻阿拉莫200余人的“乌合之众”。双方激烈交战，驻守的德克萨斯军
队用墨西哥人遗留下的大量火炮奋勇还击，击退了墨西哥军队的首轮攻势。在12天的时
间里，守军英勇顽强，与墨西哥军队僵持不下。3月6日早5点，墨西哥军队轰开了阿拉
莫的北墙，德克萨斯人决定以死相拼，战斗持续了90分钟，189名德克萨斯人全部丧生
，而墨西哥军队已经损失了数百人。阿拉莫攻城战持续了13天，以几乎全部德克萨斯人
的壮烈牺牲而告终。但却因为这场惨烈的失败，激发了德克萨斯人的战斗精神。
fighter
's
but
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: Why France Can't Fight
: Years of shortchanging defense are showing up in its Africa campaign..
: The French armed forces field some of the world's most sophisticated fighter
: jets, nuclear submarines, attack helicopters and armored vehicles. The
: country spent $52 billion last year on defense, which puts it in the world's
: top league in total military spending. That's more than twice what such
: robust middle powers as South Korea, Turkey and Israel spend.
: Yet in its commendable efforts to fight terrorists in Mali, Paris is all but
: begging for logistical and military support and has come up short on
: everything from refuelling to surveillance to heavy transport. Independently
| l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 12 Alamo那个地方我还去看过,墙都很低,也就当时那种枪可以守一下吧.
当时有个叫david什么的很牛逼,住在PA.听到Alamo的事情专门赶过去,结果战死了.
然后激发当时的美国军队,后面和墨西哥人打,20分钟就结束战斗.
当时的美国是新生的,强悍的很.
【在 p**j 的大作中提到】
: 不用跟法军比，跟Alamo比就行了。德克萨斯人代表了过去的美国人，墨西哥军代表了
: 将来的美国人。
: ***************
: 1836年2月23日墨西哥的独裁者Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna将军率领一支7000人的队
: 伍长途跋涉，围攻阿拉莫200余人的“乌合之众”。双方激烈交战，驻守的德克萨斯军
: 队用墨西哥人遗留下的大量火炮奋勇还击，击退了墨西哥军队的首轮攻势。在12天的时
: 间里，守军英勇顽强，与墨西哥军队僵持不下。3月6日早5点，墨西哥军队轰开了阿拉
: 莫的北墙，德克萨斯人决定以死相拼，战斗持续了90分钟，189名德克萨斯人全部丧生
: ，而墨西哥军队已经损失了数百人。阿拉莫攻城战持续了13天，以几乎全部德克萨斯人
: 的壮烈牺牲而告终。但却因为这场惨烈的失败，激发了德克萨斯人的战斗精神。
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