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USANews版 - 控枪这个话题为啥引发这么大争议,一个原因是黑枪泛滥
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V**3
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我假设一下, 假如警方能把黑枪控制到一个极低的水平,那么说服守法公民放弃部分
持枪权恐怕会容易些
现在的问题是警方对犯罪分子不闻不问,导致违法犯罪分子,黑帮分子人手一把撸子,
却三番五次想缴良民的枪,这玩意确实说不通
如果让大家感觉到,这个社会,社区环境确实安全,基本上用不到枪的话,我想那时候
开始搞控枪才是合适的时机
a**e
发帖数: 8800
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所有的政府都是最大的黑帮。

【在 V**3 的大作中提到】
: 我假设一下, 假如警方能把黑枪控制到一个极低的水平,那么说服守法公民放弃部分
: 持枪权恐怕会容易些
: 现在的问题是警方对犯罪分子不闻不问,导致违法犯罪分子,黑帮分子人手一把撸子,
: 却三番五次想缴良民的枪,这玩意确实说不通
: 如果让大家感觉到,这个社会,社区环境确实安全,基本上用不到枪的话,我想那时候
: 开始搞控枪才是合适的时机

j*****v
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"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson
"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They
disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes..
.. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the
assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an
unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I
advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives
boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the
ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no
character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of
your walks." - Thomas Jefferson
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert
that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by
themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson
"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves
back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit
manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may
be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us]
conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson
"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from
the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November
, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think
that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in
some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our
superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having
been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778
"Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in
private self defense."
- John Adams
"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason
"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few
politicians."
- George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of
Rights)
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are
in almost every country in Europe."
- Noah Webster
"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword;
because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force
superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster
"A government resting on the minority is an aristocracy, not a Republic, and
could not be safe with a numerical and physical force against it, without a
standing army, an enslaved press and a disarmed populace."
- James Madison
"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of
other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
- James Madison
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A
well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms,
is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison
"The ultimate authority resides in the people alone."
- James Madison
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the
argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt
"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people
always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use
them."
- Richard Henry Lee
"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and
include all men capable of bearing arms."
- Richard Henry Lee
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who
approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright
force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object
is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry
"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of
self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the
study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible.
Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep
and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty
, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
- St. George Tucker
"... arms ... discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and
preserve order in the world as well as property.... Horrid mischief would
ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived the use of them."
- Thomas Paine
"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the
United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams
"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered,
as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong
moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will
generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the
people to resist and triumph over them."
- Joseph Story
"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a
standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade
the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the
militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts
" ... for it is a truth, which the experience of all ages has attested, that
the people are commonly most in danger when the means of insuring their
rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least
suspicion."
- Alexander Hamilton
这个国家的创建者,深知政府就是黑帮的道理
这个跟安全不安全没直接关系。用自由换安全,一个都别想得到
s****i
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还是没太大戏,没黑枪了罪犯大不了用刀、棍子甚至拳头,而且可以成群行动,守
法公民没有枪还是打不过,还是得上枪对付刀、棍子和拳头,枪的震慑力也完全可以实
现一对多。
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