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Déjà Vu Weather? No, It's a Recession!
New Seasonal Pattern?
Yesterday Fed Governor Stanley Fischer proclaimed U.S. Economy Should
Rebound After ‘Poor’ First Quarter.
“There’s definitely a rebound on the way already, and we’ll see at
what speed it proceeds,” Mr. Fischer said during an interview on CNBC. “
The first quarter was poor. That seems to be a new seasonal pattern. It’s
been that way for about four of the last five years.
Richmond Fed President Jeffrey Lacker said Wednesday that he thinks a “
strong case” can be made to raise rates at the Fed’s June policy meeting,
and suggested the economy’s recent performance may have been weighed down
by temporary factors.
U.S. wage growth has been stagnant for years, but many economists expect
pay raises will accelerate as the labor market continues to tighten. “
There are more signs every day, and lots of papers come through my computer
explaining that this is the turning point, right now,” Mr. Fischer said. “
But they’ve been coming for a while.”
Déjà Vu All Over Again
The Atlanta Fed Macro Blog investigates Fisher's claim in Déjà Vu All Over
Again.
Output in the first quarter has grown at a paltry 0.6 percent during the
past five years, compared to a 2.9 percent average during the remaining
three quarters of the year.
What's causing this pattern? Well, it could be we just get really
unlucky at the same time every year. Or, it could be a more technical
problem with seasonal adjustment after the Great Recession (this paper by
Jonathan Wright covers the topic using payroll data). It also seems likely
that we can just blame the weather (see this Wall Street Journal blog post).
Whatever the reason for the first-quarter weakness, it appears to be
happening again. Our current quarterly tracking estimate—GDPNow—has first-
quarter growth hovering just above zero. As for the rest of the year, we'll
have to wait and see. We of course hope it follows the postrecession pattern.
Pattern Real or Imaginary?
Is there really a pattern?
I see two weak Q1s, one weak Q3, and one weak Q4.
If you call anything under 2% annualized growth weak, then Q2 had two weak
quarters as well. Is this a pattern or a random fluctuation?
Regardless, Fisher's claim that a poor Q1 "seems to be a new seasonal
pattern. It’s been that way for about four of the last five years" is false
. What really happened was two "bad" as opposed to "weak" Q1 quarters in
five years, and that brought down the Q1 average.
Even if that constitutes a pattern, it's as likely to be random or
meaningless than "new seasonality".
Questioning Fisher's Optimism
Even if this winter took off a couple ticks of GDP, and there is a "pattern"
does that warrant Fisher's Optimism?
No it doesn't. Fisher's optimism is only reasonable if the weakness was
entirely weather related and the underlying fundamentals are the same.
Neither is true. In fact, I think a recession has started.
It's a Recession
The US dollar is up 22% since the beginning of the year. That is sure to
hurt exports.
The US economy lost over 100,000 high-paying oil related jobs. See the
WSJ report Oil Layoffs Hit 100,000 and Counting
Hikes in minimum wage by Walmart, McDonalds, etc. will not only hurt
corporate profits, but they will slow expansion plans. Would you want to buy
a McDonald's franchise with all this pressure for $15 wages?
Credit conditions are recessionary, and you cannot blame this on the
weather. See my report Credit Crunch Underway: Can Recession Be Far Behind?
Equities and junk bonds are in a clear blowoff bubble. A huge correction
is long overdue. Indeed, it would take a 33% haircut just to get equities
back to reasonable valuations.
Finally, this is the 6th year of an expansion. The San Francisco Fed notes "
NBER records show that, over the period from the mid-1940s until 2007, the
average recession lasted 10 months, while the average expansion lasted 57
months, giving us an average business cycle of 67 months or about 5 years
and seven months."
I am increasingly confident in my recession call. In fact, unless data
immediately rebounds and holds over the next two months, a recession has
likely started.
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