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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 1 Socialist Finds 14 Flaws in Capitalism and Seeks Help to Fix Them; Mish 14
Point Rebuttal
Those looking for a big laugh can find one in Philip Kotler's Huffington
Post article entitled Fix Capitalism - Join Us!
Kotler says "The economic system is failing to deliver rising living
standards for most Americans. Most of the gains from higher productivity are
going to the rich. The middle class is getting smaller, the wages of the
working class are lower in real terms than in the 1980s, and the really poor
continue to constitute 15% of our citizens."
On his website FixCaptalism.Com Kotler notes 14 shortcomings of capitalism
but says "there may be more".
14 Alleged Shortcomings
Proposes little or no solution to persistent poverty
Generates a growing level of income inequality
Fails to pay a living wage to billions of workers
Not enough human jobs in the face of growing automation
Doesn't charge businesses with the full social costs of their activities
Exploits the environment and natural resources in the absence of
regulation
Creates business cycles and economic instability
Emphasizes individualism and self-interest at the expense of community
and the commons
Encourages high consumer debt and leads to a growing financially-driven
rather than producer-driven economy
Lets politicians and business interests collaborate to subvert the
economic interests of the majority of citizens
Favors short-run profit planning over long-run investment planning
Should have regulations regarding product quality, safety, truth in
advertising, and anti-competitive behavior
Tends to focus narrowly on GDP growth
Needs to bring social values, well being and happiness into the market
equation.
Kotler's list is so preposterous, I hardly know where to start. So let's
just go down the list one by one.
Mish 14 Point Rebuttal
It is capitalism that is responsible for improved standards of living
over the decades.
The Fed and government bureaucrats, not capitalism is behind growing
income inequality. That said, some degree of inequality is not only a good
thing but a very necessary thing. People need to be rewarded for bringing
new ideas to the market. Successful new ideas raise the standards of living
of everyone, and income inequality creates the very incentive to market new
ideas.
The inflationary policies of central bank planners is the primary reason
people do not make a "living wage".
Throughout history people feared automation. Yet every technological
advance created new jobs. One reason for the acceleration of job losses now
are the very "living wage" proposals espoused by those like Kotler that
price humans out of jobs.
It's not the role of businesses, nor should it be, to be concerned with
undefinable "social costs".
It's not capitalism that fails to charge businesses for pollution costs,
but rather governments.
It is beyond idiotic to propose capitalism causes economic instability.
It is governments and central banks that cause economic instability.
With his concern about "community commons", one can easily see Kotler is
a dyed-in-the-wool socialist. The problem with socialism is, it does not
work and never will.
Capitalism does not encourage high consumer debt. The Fed and central
banks do, in the inane belief debt drives the economy.
Capitalism does not let "politicians and business interests collaborate
to subvert the economic interests of the majority of citizens". Rather
corrupt politicians willing to do anything to get reelected are the problem.
Capitalism does not favor short-run profit planning, but tax laws might.
In point 12, Kotler argues in favor of "anti-competition". Competition
is the very essence of improved products and rising standards of living.
Capitalism does not focus on GDP at all. Misguided economists,
politicians, and central banks do.
Pray tell, whose "social values" do we need to consider? Mine? Yours,
ISIS? Kotler's? Personally, I do not want some jackass or set of government
jackasses, deciding what is socially right or wrong.
Save Us from Socialists!
Philip Kotler is the S.C. Johnson & Son Distinguished Professor of
International Marketing at the Northwestern University Kellogg School of
Management in Chicago.
Having completed my 14 point rebuttal, it is pretty clear Kotler has no idea
what capitalism really is or the advances it has created. He attributes
problems to capitalism that are in reality caused by central banks and
government bureaucrats.
Kotler wants to "save capitalism from itself."
The irony is capitalism does indeed need to be saved, not from itself, but
from economically illiterate socialists like Kotler.
Rather than fixing capitalism, I suggest we actually try capitalism in lieu
of Fed foolishness, government foolishness, and socialist foolishness. | j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 2 送社會主義者去金三那裡就好了
不過左婢一向都是葉公好龍的
are
poor
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: Socialist Finds 14 Flaws in Capitalism and Seeks Help to Fix Them; Mish 14
: Point Rebuttal
: Those looking for a big laugh can find one in Philip Kotler's Huffington
: Post article entitled Fix Capitalism - Join Us!
: Kotler says "The economic system is failing to deliver rising living
: standards for most Americans. Most of the gains from higher productivity are
: going to the rich. The middle class is getting smaller, the wages of the
: working class are lower in real terms than in the 1980s, and the really poor
: continue to constitute 15% of our citizens."
: On his website FixCaptalism.Com Kotler notes 14 shortcomings of capitalism
| c***n
发帖数: 1034 | | b**********s
发帖数: 9531 | 4 我劝你和板主不用争了。其实sanders没有出现的可能。你看过民主党辩论吧，知道白
等不参加竞选吧，直到奥巴马决定不起诉希拉里吧。这些都说明一个事实，就是希拉里
会赢得民主党提名。
如果你真的关心美国贫富不均，觉得美国中下层人民没有希望的话，请支持trump。
为什么呢？
继续支持希拉里，布什这样的体制内政客，就意味着继续华尔街主导的政策，继续加速
美国空心化，中产阶级衰落。你如果是中产以下，也就意味着越来越贫穷。
支持trump这样的体制外政客，他不回搞sanders那样的社会主义，但他的政策会鼓励美
国富人投资美国，复兴美国产业，增强扩大中产阶级。也就是说，作为中产以下的人民
会比过去更加富裕，富人当然也会有更多回报。
为了你自己的利益，应该支持trump。除非你是富人，那么投希拉里和布什吧。
【在 c***n 的大作中提到】
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=porVAxg-hhI
| c***n
发帖数: 1034 | 5 我是为Sanders的理念来的。我也相信他会赢得大选。"Govern based on principle"的
人是无法阻挡的。因为我相信他的理念，也信服他的措施，或者说至少他有具体的措施
来支持他的理念。当然我也是为了自己的利益来的。我知道我现在不是那top0.3%，未
来进入top0.3%的几率也是很小的。因此我希望自己老有所养、病有所治，希望有一个
美丽的环境、一个安详的社区，所以我支持Bernie。
【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】
: 我劝你和板主不用争了。其实sanders没有出现的可能。你看过民主党辩论吧，知道白
: 等不参加竞选吧，直到奥巴马决定不起诉希拉里吧。这些都说明一个事实，就是希拉里
: 会赢得民主党提名。
: 如果你真的关心美国贫富不均，觉得美国中下层人民没有希望的话，请支持trump。
: 为什么呢？
: 继续支持希拉里，布什这样的体制内政客，就意味着继续华尔街主导的政策，继续加速
: 美国空心化，中产阶级衰落。你如果是中产以下，也就意味着越来越贫穷。
: 支持trump这样的体制外政客，他不回搞sanders那样的社会主义，但他的政策会鼓励美
: 国富人投资美国，复兴美国产业，增强扩大中产阶级。也就是说，作为中产以下的人民
: 会比过去更加富裕，富人当然也会有更多回报。
| b**********s
发帖数: 9531 | 6 你支持吧，我只是说sanders是不会得到民主党提名的。原因我也给了，而且好多条。
与其支持不现实的选项，不如支持可行的，而且和你的利益接近的候选人。因为你不知
道他，那些会伤害你利益的候选人就会上台。
【在 c***n 的大作中提到】
: 我是为Sanders的理念来的。我也相信他会赢得大选。"Govern based on principle"的
: 人是无法阻挡的。因为我相信他的理念，也信服他的措施，或者说至少他有具体的措施
: 来支持他的理念。当然我也是为了自己的利益来的。我知道我现在不是那top0.3%，未
: 来进入top0.3%的几率也是很小的。因此我希望自己老有所养、病有所治，希望有一个
: 美丽的环境、一个安详的社区，所以我支持Bernie。
| j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 7 從來就只有共貧的社會，Bernie除了畫張共富大餅給你，沒什麼可以多給的
【在 c***n 的大作中提到】
: 我是为Sanders的理念来的。我也相信他会赢得大选。"Govern based on principle"的
: 人是无法阻挡的。因为我相信他的理念，也信服他的措施，或者说至少他有具体的措施
: 来支持他的理念。当然我也是为了自己的利益来的。我知道我现在不是那top0.3%，未
: 来进入top0.3%的几率也是很小的。因此我希望自己老有所养、病有所治，希望有一个
: 美丽的环境、一个安详的社区，所以我支持Bernie。
| c***n
发帖数: 1034 | 8 民主党的提名是选民选出来的，不是指定的。所以只要让更多的人知道Bernie，了解他
的主张和措施，我相信他会赢得提名的。而且他目前在Iowa和NH的poll结果都很好。
Iowa 43%, NewHamp 54%.
https://today.yougov.com/news/2015/10/25/clinton-surges-early-states-carson-
levels-trump-io/
【在 b**********s 的大作中提到】
: 你支持吧，我只是说sanders是不会得到民主党提名的。原因我也给了，而且好多条。
: 与其支持不现实的选项，不如支持可行的，而且和你的利益接近的候选人。因为你不知
: 道他，那些会伤害你利益的候选人就会上台。
| c***n
发帖数: 1034 | | k****g
发帖数: 1509 | 10 Is there American Communist Party still existing?
are
poor
【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: Socialist Finds 14 Flaws in Capitalism and Seeks Help to Fix Them; Mish 14
: Point Rebuttal
: Those looking for a big laugh can find one in Philip Kotler's Huffington
: Post article entitled Fix Capitalism - Join Us!
: Kotler says "The economic system is failing to deliver rising living
: standards for most Americans. Most of the gains from higher productivity are
: going to the rich. The middle class is getting smaller, the wages of the
: working class are lower in real terms than in the 1980s, and the really poor
: continue to constitute 15% of our citizens."
: On his website FixCaptalism.Com Kotler notes 14 shortcomings of capitalism
| c****p
发帖数: 6474 | 11 严格讲，真正的社会主义国家还没出现吧……
生产力还都没发展到那个程度。
【在 j*****v 的大作中提到】
: 送社會主義者去金三那裡就好了
: 不過左婢一向都是葉公好龍的
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: are
: poor
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