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l****z
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MYTH BUSTED: Actually, Yes, Hitler Was a Socialist Liberal
Courtney Kirchoff Thursday January 28 2016
A favorite tactic employed by leftists is to describe the Nazis as “right
wing,” with Adolf Hitler, their leader, as the grand leader of this “right
wing” movement. Rewriting history is pretty common for leftists, as their
history is littered with injustice (the KKK was founded by Democrats, did
you know?). Injustices they claim to fight against today. Awkward.
But thanks to this nifty thing called “history” in combination with “the
internet,” we can bust this myth once and for all. Thoroughly. Or until a
leftist insists on ignoring it. Then we’ll hold them down and tape their
eyes open. Just kidding, that’s only what a leftist would do.
Adolf Hitler wasn’t “right wing.” If you take nothing else from this post
, just remember Hitler was a socialist. With terrible facial hair. There’s
an easy way to remember it, too. NAZI stands for National Socialist German
Workers‘ Party. Associate it with blunt mustaches.
What does National Socialist German Worker’s Party mean? Glad you asked. Is
it different from “Democratic socialism”? Only in semantics. A Democracy
is mob rule, which is why America is actually a constitutional,
representative republic, NOT a democracy. A representative republic protects
the minority from the majority, whereas a democracy is the rule of the
majority. Leftists get caught up in words, getting tripped up over “
National Socialism” as opposed to “Democrat Socialism.” But it’s just
that. Semantics. So when Hitler ginned up hatred for the Jews, he could get
the mob to agree with him. He could get the mob to believe him. There were
no representatives to stop Hitler. He was one man helming the desperation of
a majority of people. Spot the difference?
When we examine Hitler’s Nazi Germany through the lens of history, most, if
not all of us, think of the Holocaust. In fact the holocaust might be the
only thing we associate with Hitler’s Nazis. We’ve all been told of the
Jews being marched off to death camps where they were worked, tortured, then
gassed. We’ve also heard of the experiments conducted by Hitler’s Dr.
Mengele. All terrible practices which we rightly find horrifying. Unless you
’re one of those people who think Planned Parenthood is great.
What we don’t often hear or learn about is how Hitler ruled the rest of
Germany, what his domestic policies were for the German people he didn’t
march off to death camps. Hitler’s domestic, socialist policies will be the
focus of this post. Trigger warning: they’re eerily similar to what
American Democrats tout today. Double trigger warning? He initially had the
support of the mob of people. So replace many of Hitler’s policies with
something you hear from Bernie Sanders…
Brief Historical Background on Hitler…
Germany lost World War I. As such, Germany was in a state of economic and
national depression. Not totally unusual for losing a giant war. But the
depression was a long, drawn out one (15 years) leaving the German people
poor, hungry, desperate, lacking any confidence. Then along came a young man
named Adolf Hitler…
Hitler was a powerful and spellbinding speaker who attracted a wide
following of Germans desperate for change. He promised the disenchanted a
better life and a new and glorious Germany. The Nazis appealed especially to
the unemployed, young people, and members of the lower middle class (small
store owners, office employees, craftsmen, and farmers).
Human beings may advance technologically, but spiritually? Not so much. In
fact I’d contest we rarely learn our lessons when choosing our leaders.
Especially charismatic ones. If a man (or woman) can speak eloquently, with
confidence, we cannot help but be enthralled. We often follow along, like
the town’s children following the pied piper.
Employment for All
After that depression, Hitler made a huge promise to his people: employment
for all. How did he do it? Roads and infrastructure:
As Fuhrer, Hitler’s first priority was jobs, or the lack of them.
German unemployment had peaked at 6 million due to the Depression
devastating the economy. With innovative public works schemes such as the
building of autobahns, Hitler put every German back to work. He also
advocated schemes such as KdF – Strength Through Joy – which gave workers
increased benefits for increased levels of production. This policy was
popular and increasingly with the proletariat who had seen their country
decimated by the depression…
By putting people back to work and making huge public spending,
inflation was bound to happen. However, Hitler kept this under control by
not allowing wages to rise with prices. This may have been one unpopular
aspect of Hitler’s economic policy but there were many that the people
supported.
So Hitler created jobs…through government. While at the same time, he
criticized certain segments of the population, demeaning them, blaming the
countries woes upon them. The rich, they just ruin everything. Sound
familiar?
Big Education
If you haven’t seen it yet, go watch WW2 Surivor’s Account Draws Chilling
Similarities between Nazism and Liberalism.
When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government
immediately established child care centers. You could take your children
ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a
week, under the total care of the government. The state raised a whole
generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the
children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no
one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.
Public education, where children are at school all day long, with state-
funded and state-sponsored curriculum… convinced yet?
Nationalized Healthcare
Also from the WW2 Surivor’s accounting of Nazism:
After Hitler’s health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors
were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the
people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor
arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the
same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had
to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it
was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools
literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other
countries.
As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds
immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a
household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were
free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition
was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps,
clothing, and housing.
Do I really need to write commentary on this one? Really?
Gun Control
Yes, Germany had gun control. It started before Hitler with a national gun
registry:
…in the 1920s in the chaos of Germany’s Weimar Republic, which opted
for gun registration. Law-abiding persons complied with the law, but the
Communists and Nazis committing acts of political violence did not.
Here’s what happened as a result:
In 1931, Weimar authorities discovered plans for a Nazi takeover in
which Jews would be denied food and persons refusing to surrender their guns
within 24 hours would be executed. They were written by Werner Best, a
future Gestapo official. In reaction to such threats, the government
authorized the registration of all firearms and the confiscation thereof, if
required for “public safety.” The interior minister warned that the
records must not fall into the hands of any extremist group.
Finally, Hitler just took the guns from Jews. An armed citizenry is a
dangerous one, after all. Hitler even said this about guns in the hands of
the people: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to
allow the subject races to possess arms.”
In Breslau in 1933, Jews were ordered to “surrender [their] weapons
forthwith to the police authorities” on the basis that “Jewish citizens
have allegedly used their weapons for unlawful attacks on members of the
Nazi organization and the police.” This was a regular occurrence all over
Germany until the Waffengesetz of 1938, which effectively banned Jewish
firearm ownership in all of Germany (though this had been something of a
reality for a while, as in 1935 the Gestapo had ordered no weapons permits
to be issued to Jews without the approval of the Gestapo itself).
So excuse us Second Amendment supporters when we here Obama, Sanders and
Clinton talking about regulating guns more than they’re regulated today.
Call us paranoid. We’ll keep our guns.
Abortion
The great sacrament of the left, abortion. You’ll be pleased to know that
Hitler was pro-choice:
Dr. Tessa Chelouche goes on to quote Hitler’s 1942 policy statement on
the application of abortion to Slavic people, which is chillingly similar to
modern Planned Parenthood propaganda:
“In view of the large families of the Slav native population, it could
only suit us if girls and women there had as many abortions as possible. We
are not interested in seeing the non-German population multiply…We must use
every means to instill in the population the idea that it is harmful to
have several children, the expenses that they cause and the dangerous effect
on woman’s health… It will be necessary to open special institutions for
abortions and doctors must be able to help out there in case there is any
question of this being a breach of their professional ethics.”
Compare the Nazi’s application of abortion to how Planned Parenthood (a
government-funded organization) operates. Also read up on Margaret Sanger,
who echoed much of Hitler’s sentiment.
Blaming the One Percent Jews
Hitler used the Jews as a scapegoat, blaming them for everything, including
economic hardship, even though the Jewish population in Germany was less
than one percent…
Jews in Germany made up less than one percent of the German population.
But held According to the census of June 1933, the Jewish population of
Germany consisted of about 500,000 people. Jews represented less than one
percent of the total German population of about 67 million people.
Despite that, Hitler insisted on taking their money…
Nearly 120 billion Reich marks – over £12 billion at the time –
was plundered from German Jews by laws and looting.
The official study commissioned by the ministry examined the years from
1933 to 1945. Hans-Peter Ullmann, a Cologne history professor, said the tax
authorities under the Nazis actively worked to “destroy Jews financially”
and to loot wealth in the nations the Germans occupied.
Even Jews who managed to escape from Germany before the Holocaust had to
leave part of their wealth behind in the form of an “exit tax”. Tax laws
discriminated against Jews from 1934 onwards.
And boycotting their businesses…
APRIL 1, 1933 NATIONWIDE BOYCOTT OF JEWISH-OWNED BUSINESSES
At 10:00 a.m., members of the Storm Troopers (SA) and SS (the elite
guard of the Nazi state) stand in front of Jewish-owned businesses
throughout Germany to inform the public that the proprietors of these
establishments are Jewish. The word “Jude,” German for “Jew,” is often
smeared on store display windows, with a Star of David painted in yellow and
black across the doors. Anti-Jewish signs accompany these slogans. In some
towns, the SA march through the streets singing anti-Jewish slogans and
party songs.
Review: Hitler demeaned the Jews. He blamed the economic and national
depression on them. He instituted national boycotts of their business. He
then took their money through taxes and outright looting. Hey, maybe they
weren’t paying their “fair share.”
The Police State
If you dared oppose the Nazis or Hitler politically, especially with your
words, you better watch out. The Gestapo was on the hunt for political
dissidents, many of whom would simply vanish.
SS chief Heinrich Himmler also turned the regular (nonparty) police
forces into an instrument of terror. He helped forge the powerful Secret
State Police (Geheime Staatspolizei), or Gestapo; these non-uniformed police
used ruthless and cruel methods throughout Germany to identify and arrest
political opponents and others who refused to obey laws and policies of the
Nazi regime.
Compare the Gestapo with how leftists want to jail people who do not believe
in man-made climate change. Compare the Gestapo to the Gaystapo, who fines
people who do not agree with gay marriage or the gay lifestyle. Compare the
Gestapo to liberal New York, which fines you for not using the right gender
pronouns.
In Conclusion
Hitler was a horrible human being. But aside from how he treated the Jews,
aside from his monsterous ways, his polcies were anything but “conservative
.” He wanted big government, he wanted big eductation, he wanted thought
control. He hated political dissidents. He loathed free-speech. He feared an
armed citizenry.
So stop saying “Hitler was right-wing.” No, he wasn’t. If anything, he
was a full-fledged left-winger. With a horrible mustache.
s*********e
发帖数: 1814
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不是很明显的事情
都是社会主义,都是大政府,都是鼓动仇视和对抗
唯一不同的一个是黑格尔版的,中心是种族
一个是马克思版的,中心是阶级
s*********r
发帖数: 2575
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Trump 的言论,以及这个版面上的诸多粉丝,都是充满了爱心的,没有仇恨。

【在 s*********e 的大作中提到】
: 不是很明显的事情
: 都是社会主义,都是大政府,都是鼓动仇视和对抗
: 唯一不同的一个是黑格尔版的,中心是种族
: 一个是马克思版的,中心是阶级

l****z
发帖数: 29846
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Trump 的言论很符合老毛的一句话: 实事求是.
所以深得人心.

【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: Trump 的言论,以及这个版面上的诸多粉丝,都是充满了爱心的,没有仇恨。
m*****o
发帖数: 854
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元首的还是不一样。 纳粹 德国 的涨工资, 发福利的前提是用独裁的手段强迫大家都
去劳动, 创造社会财富,先 制造 大饼先。提出的理念 是 劳动 光荣。 而不是给懒
人发福利。 有制造业 保证产出, 大家 消费力也强, 经济自然上去了 。 运行机制
主体还是 市场 经济, 国家 规定 了许多保障 福利的 法规, 但政府 也 必须 强迫
大家 去 劳动。
三德斯在民主社会不能强迫懒人去干活,只是一味大发福利,先把饼分了,短期内大家
消费能力增加了, 促进服务业DOMINATED的经济繁荣。大家先HAPPY, 以后 有没有饼
他就不管了, 反正他也下台了。那时候制造业也 彻底 崩溃了, 光有服务业的经济
结构必定崩溃。 共和党上台, 罪名也是 共和党 的, 把经济搞砸了了。
和 当年男可灵顿搞 住房贷款 一样 , 大家 先 狂欢,这是 自己的 政绩, 以后 不
管了。这个 和 吸毒 一个 道理 。


【在 s*********e 的大作中提到】
: 不是很明显的事情
: 都是社会主义,都是大政府,都是鼓动仇视和对抗
: 唯一不同的一个是黑格尔版的,中心是种族
: 一个是马克思版的,中心是阶级

l****z
发帖数: 29846
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有道理

【在 m*****o 的大作中提到】
: 元首的还是不一样。 纳粹 德国 的涨工资, 发福利的前提是用独裁的手段强迫大家都
: 去劳动, 创造社会财富,先 制造 大饼先。提出的理念 是 劳动 光荣。 而不是给懒
: 人发福利。 有制造业 保证产出, 大家 消费力也强, 经济自然上去了 。 运行机制
: 主体还是 市场 经济, 国家 规定 了许多保障 福利的 法规, 但政府 也 必须 强迫
: 大家 去 劳动。
: 三德斯在民主社会不能强迫懒人去干活,只是一味大发福利,先把饼分了,短期内大家
: 消费能力增加了, 促进服务业DOMINATED的经济繁荣。大家先HAPPY, 以后 有没有饼
: 他就不管了, 反正他也下台了。那时候制造业也 彻底 崩溃了, 光有服务业的经济
: 结构必定崩溃。 共和党上台, 罪名也是 共和党 的, 把经济搞砸了了。
: 和 当年男可灵顿搞 住房贷款 一样 , 大家 先 狂欢,这是 自己的 政绩, 以后 不

m*****o
发帖数: 854
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没办法, 大部分人天性是惰性的, 都给免费的胡萝卜, 谁还干活。三德斯这样 发
大饼, 又不 限制 非法移民, 死的 更快。
部分还是赞同三德斯的 一些 论点, 给劳动人民涨工钱, 但如何涨, 那 超出讨论水
平了。 给老百姓 涨 工钱的部分应该从给企业减税那边平衡。 总之政府钱不能多,
否则滋生腐败。

【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 有道理
T*********I
发帖数: 10729
8
乖乖。太耳熟能详了。
Employment for All
Big Education (这点里主要是洗脑、通过语文政治类、最恶毒。science、数理化什么
的没有什么大不了的)
Nationalized Healthcare
Gun Control
big government从理论上注定是素质低下的。为啥不如私企?因为细到每个员工,没有
动力。有的只是照章办事不要被抓住错误。不像私企会倒闭丢工作,不像私企会扩张升
官发财。
如果说民主因为每个选民不能做到自我约束自我发奋图强而整体失败,大政府也是一个
道理。
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