s*********r 发帖数: 9493 | 1 这是我找到的,Trump对毒品的观点:
把毒品合法化,然后用税收利润去资助反毒品教育 (Legalize drugs and use tax
revenue to fund drug education)。
顺便说一下,我其实很同意他这个观点。这个务实观点也很接近Ron Paul的政策。
Trump argued in 1990 that the only way to win the War on Drugs was to
legalize drugs and use the tax revenue to fund drug education programs. As
he put it, "You have to take the profit away from these drug czars." In his
2000 book, The America We Deserve, he stated that he'd never tried drugs "of
any kind."
Source: Tim Murphy in Mother Jones magazine , Apr 20, 2011
链接:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Donald_Trump_Drugs.htm | s*******1 发帖数: 16479 | 2 甜妹,他当时这个观点我反而不赞同。
下面是他现在的stand,我比较赞同。只限于医用我可以接受。我外公走之前因为病痛
打的吗啡减轻痛苦,我觉得用于这方面是人道的,不过要有很强的管理。
http://www.marijuana.com/blog/news/2015/04/where-do-presidentia
Donald Trump – Republican
The businessman and former reality television host supports medical
marijuana but has taken conflicting positions on full legalization over the
years. He supports the right of states to enact their own marijuana laws
without federal interference.
In 1990, Trump called for legalizing all drugs. “We’re losing badly the
war on drugs. You have to legalize drugs to win that war,” he said. “You
have to take the profit away from these drug czars… What I’d like to do
maybe by bringing it up is cause enough controversy that you get into a
dialogue on the issue of drugs so people will start to realize that this is
the only answer; there is no other answer.”
But at the 2015 Conservative Political Action Conference, Trump stated that
he’s against the legalization of marijuana. “I think it’s bad, and I feel
strongly about that,” he said. “They’ve got a lot of problems going on
right now in Colorado, some big problems.” However, when asked about the
states’ rights aspect to marijuana laws, Trump said, “If they vote for it,
they vote for it.
“Medical marijuana is another thing,” he added. “I think medical
marijuana, 100 percent.” On another occasion he said, “Medical I agree
with. Medical I like… Medical is ok.”
Similarly, at a rally in Reno, Trump said, “I think medical should happen,
right? Don’t we agree? I mean I think so… I know people that are very,
very sick and for whatever reason, the marijuana really helps them.”
On full legalization, he added, “And then I really believe you should leave
it up to the states. It should be a state situation… In terms of marijuana
and legalization, I think that should be a state issue, state by state.”
In an interview with WWJ Newsradio in Detroit, Trump said legalization has
“got to be a state decision. Colorado did it as you know and I guess it’s
very mixed right now, they haven’t really made a final determination. There
seems to be certain health problems with it and that would be certainly
bothersome.” But he reiterated support for medical cannabis. “I do like it
, you know, from a medical standpoint. Because people are saying from a
medical standpoint it does do pretty good things. But from the other
standpoint, I think that should be up to the states… Certainly, from a
medical standpoint, a lot of people are liking it.”
On ABC’s This Week, Trump said legalization “should continue to be studied
. But it’s not something I’d be willing to do right now.” He hinted that
in the absence of robust policing or border control, legalization may be an
option. “Maybe it has to be looked at because we do such a poor job of
policing. We don’t want to build walls. We don’t want to do anything. And
if you’re not going to want to do the policing, you’re going to have to
start thinking about other alternatives. But it’s not something that I
would want to do. But it’s something that certainly has been looked at and
I looked at it. If we police properly, we shouldn’t do that.”
On other occasions, he has seemed less certain about what the federal
response to state legalization should be. For example, on Hugh Hewitt’s
radio show, Trump said he was watching Colorado’s experience with
legalization and didn’t like what he saw. “Well, there are a lot of bad
things happening in Colorado with people’s health. And if you look at the
results, you know, they’re getting some pretty bad results. Plus, it’s
being taken all over the place. I mean, I would have to look at it very
seriously,” he said. “Now I think if you talk about medical, you’re
talking about a different ball of wax. But there are a lot of bad results
happening in Colorado, and people are talking about it. I’m reading about
it. So I would be looking at a couple of different things, but I really
would want to study it further, because they’re doing a lot of studies. But
you know, some bad medical reports and some bad, bad things are happening
with what’s going on in Colorado.”
Trump seemed similarly undecided in an interview on Fox News’s O’Reilly
Factor. “In Colorado, the book isn’t written on it yet, but there’s a lot
of difficulty in terms of illness and what’s going on with the brain and
the mind and what it’s doing,” he said. “In some ways I think it’s good
and in other ways it’s bad.” But he reiterated that he supports medical
marijuana. “I know people that have serious problems and they did that and
it really does help them.”
When asked by MSNBC’s Joe Scarbourough whether people should be sent to
jail for marijuana, Trump responded, “I don’t really think so,” but “I
think that maybe the dealers have to be looked at very strongly.”
Addressing state marijuana laws, Trump predicted that momentum will continue
to be on the side those who favor reform. “You have states all of a sudden
legalizing it. So it’s sort of hard to say that you’re in one side of the
border and you go to jail and you’re on the other side and can you go into
a store and buy it. So there is going to be changes made there, Joe, and
there has to be… That is a very tough subject nowadays, especially since it
’s been legalized and will continue to be legalized.”
In an interview on Fox News, Trump called marijuana “a big problem,”
saying the drug has “tremendously damaging effects to the mind, to the
brain, to everything.” But he reiterated that he’s “all for medical
marijuana and its help.”
In his book, “The America We Deserve,” Trump claims that he’s never tried
marijuana. “I’ve never taken drugs of any kind, never had a glass of
alcohol. Never had a cigarette, never had a cup of coffee,” he wrote.
Similarly, in an interview with Fox News’s Jesse Watters, Trump said, “No
I have not [smoked marijuana.] I would tell you 100% because everyone else
seems to admit it nowadays… I’ve never smoked a cigarette either.” In an
interview with People magazine, Trump indicated his aversion to drug use was
shaped by his brother’s death from alcoholism. “He had a profound impact
on my life, because you never know where you’re going to end up,” he said. | a**e 发帖数: 8800 | 3 对付毒品实际上很简单,尤其是出现了冰毒这样无关种植的毒品后。
只要把毒品交易利润弄没,毒品自然就解决了。美国只要愿意,每年几百万的成本就能
把所有的黑帮毒品交易赶尽杀绝。
一如当年禁酒后黑帮群起贩卖私酒到解禁后黑帮把持的酒市几乎一夜解散。
但是,黑帮是一定会用最高大上的道德理由禁止这样的法律的。同样,禁毒/戒毒的经
济利益体也会全面阻挠。
his
of
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这是我找到的,Trump对毒品的观点: : 把毒品合法化,然后用税收利润去资助反毒品教育 (Legalize drugs and use tax : revenue to fund drug education)。 : 顺便说一下,我其实很同意他这个观点。这个务实观点也很接近Ron Paul的政策。 : Trump argued in 1990 that the only way to win the War on Drugs was to : legalize drugs and use the tax revenue to fund drug education programs. As : he put it, "You have to take the profit away from these drug czars." In his : 2000 book, The America We Deserve, he stated that he'd never tried drugs "of : any kind." : Source: Tim Murphy in Mother Jones magazine , Apr 20, 2011
| s*********r 发帖数: 9493 | 4 谢谢souffle的信息。
我读了以后觉得Trump在控制毒品方面的position总体还是比较moderate。比如他说让
各州决定,比如他说uncertain,比如他说需要更多研究什么的。
我感觉他虽然面对共和党内保守派的压力,话说的还是比较务实。而且他话里给自己留
了后路,我相信到了GE阶段,他会回归自己真正的想法。毕竟从1990-2015他都是这么
个观点,到了2015年决定大选前才突然改变的。
当然,对2016来说,这个议题不是主要的。
the
【在 s*******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 甜妹,他当时这个观点我反而不赞同。 : 下面是他现在的stand,我比较赞同。只限于医用我可以接受。我外公走之前因为病痛 : 打的吗啡减轻痛苦,我觉得用于这方面是人道的,不过要有很强的管理。 : http://www.marijuana.com/blog/news/2015/04/where-do-presidentia : Donald Trump – Republican : The businessman and former reality television host supports medical : marijuana but has taken conflicting positions on full legalization over the : years. He supports the right of states to enact their own marijuana laws : without federal interference. : In 1990, Trump called for legalizing all drugs. “We’re losing badly the
| f**********n 发帖数: 29853 | 5 又不谨慎,胡乱发言,说你么好?
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 谢谢souffle的信息。 : 我读了以后觉得Trump在控制毒品方面的position总体还是比较moderate。比如他说让 : 各州决定,比如他说uncertain,比如他说需要更多研究什么的。 : 我感觉他虽然面对共和党内保守派的压力,话说的还是比较务实。而且他话里给自己留 : 了后路,我相信到了GE阶段,他会回归自己真正的想法。毕竟从1990-2015他都是这么 : 个观点,到了2015年决定大选前才突然改变的。 : 当然,对2016来说,这个议题不是主要的。 : : the
| s*********r 发帖数: 9493 | 6 哪句话不对?
【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 又不谨慎,胡乱发言,说你么好?
| f**********n 发帖数: 29853 | 7 我没去读英文,但是你说“毒品合法化”做标题肯定不对。没有政客会用毒品这个这么
大的词,一般都是说”大麻合法化”
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哪句话不对?
| s*********r 发帖数: 9493 | 8 原文的英文是:Legalize drugs and use tax revenue to fund drug education。
您老人家给翻译翻译吧。
【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我没去读英文,但是你说“毒品合法化”做标题肯定不对。没有政客会用毒品这个这么 : 大的词,一般都是说”大麻合法化”
| m********g 发帖数: 10469 | 9 极左甜妈玩文字游戏非常有意思,人一本90年的书,然后2015在保守派大会上公开了了
他的新观点,极左甜妈然后很自然地来一笔90-2015,床铺的观点是如此如此。一个商
人谁会经常问他关于毒品问题的看法,这20年的观点如何甜妈就认定他没变?问题是甜
妈天天撅个屁股攻击床铺是条变色龙,呵呵咋就这么信一个整个家庭完全不碰毒品的关
于毒品的政治观点。甜妈这文科大妈的思维啊。。
甜妈最搞笑的就是如知心大姐一般,咱也是认同床铺观点哦,一个泼粪机弄一身屎扑到
别人身上就好像不叫泼粪了。
极左甜妈玩这些没意思,老王关于稀拉拉的帖子丫重来不敢回一个,这到底是个什么原
因?
【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 又不谨慎,胡乱发言,说你么好?
| f**********n 发帖数: 29853 | 10 我诚恳一次。
读了一点蛋糕妹的英文,里面的确是指床铺的政见是医用大麻合法化。
你作为支持大麻合法的人,当然知道大麻和别的毒品的区别,也知道医用又加了一层保
护。然而,你取个这么恐怖的标题,“毒品合法化“
我该怎么判断你这个人呢?真的是故意误导?还是一时不小心?可是你一时不小心的次
数也太多了点。 | | | f**********n 发帖数: 29853 | 11 你这个原文是来自于毛毛虫说的二十六年前的观点吗?
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 原文的英文是:Legalize drugs and use tax revenue to fund drug education。 : 您老人家给翻译翻译吧。
| m********g 发帖数: 10469 | 12 甜妈是不是国内青年政治学院毕业的,据说造谣课是必修,甜妈玩这一套很有点专业手
法。
【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我诚恳一次。 : 读了一点蛋糕妹的英文,里面的确是指床铺的政见是医用大麻合法化。 : 你作为支持大麻合法的人,当然知道大麻和别的毒品的区别,也知道医用又加了一层保 : 护。然而,你取个这么恐怖的标题,“毒品合法化“ : 我该怎么判断你这个人呢?真的是故意误导?还是一时不小心?可是你一时不小心的次 : 数也太多了点。
| f**********n 发帖数: 29853 | 13 这么说吧,支持大麻合法化的一定知道大麻和毒品之间的巨大区别。
【在 m********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 甜妈是不是国内青年政治学院毕业的,据说造谣课是必修,甜妈玩这一套很有点专业手 : 法。
| m********g 发帖数: 10469 | 14 关于希拉拉帖子,啥监狱AA,hunt Chinese,甜大妈从来不回,喊她进去也当看不懂中文
式的。利比亚大使馆死个大使甜妈还能转个角度从对和党的斗争伟大胜利来舔希妈妈。
希拉里这个人撒谎无能甜妈是一头砸进龙虾屁股里装没看见。
甜妈在毒品问题上的确是极左,这个拉RON PUAL出来也没有用。左右派的糟粕全被甜妈
吸收了,好的没学到。
【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这么说吧,支持大麻合法化的一定知道大麻和毒品之间的巨大区别。
| x****a 发帖数: 817 | 15 第一步应该是"大麻非罪化"。合法化涉及到设立市场,制定交易规范,等等,
个人认为,不是priority, at this time. |
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