c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 1 National Rifle Association CEO Wayne LaPierre came under fire for his claim
that Americans need guns to "defend themselves from tyranny."
Illinois Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin then asked Baltimore Police Chief James
Johnson how he felt about LaPierre's statement:
"Chief Johnson, you heard it. The belief of NRA is the 2nd amendment gives
American citizens the fire power to fight back against you, against our
government. How can you conduct your business in enforcing the law, not
knowing what is behind that door?"
Chief Johnson: "I find it to be scary, creepy, and simply just not based on
logic. Frankly, I can't relate to that kind of thinking."
看来这个警察感到scary是对的，“反抗暴政”的这不就来了吗。 | g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 2 你把“暴政”二字搞明白了再发言。
要真的是反抗暴政，首先应该击毙奥巴马。
你摘的这段话明显是那个民主党议员在捏造事实，篡改原意，挑拨是非。 | i**t
发帖数: 3556 | 3 你要把“击毙xxx”去掉，小心FBI登门。
【在 g********2 的大作中提到】
: 你把“暴政”二字搞明白了再发言。
: 要真的是反抗暴政，首先应该击毙奥巴马。
: 你摘的这段话明显是那个民主党议员在捏造事实，篡改原意，挑拨是非。
| g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 4 我用的条件句。
【在 i**t 的大作中提到】
: 你要把“击毙xxx”去掉，小心FBI登门。
| c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 5 还是小心些好
【在 g********2 的大作中提到】
: 我用的条件句。
| c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 6 自顶一下，悼念警察。整天嚷嚷拥枪反抗暴政的，面对5位警察的血，应该反思一下。
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【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: National Rifle Association CEO Wayne LaPierre came under fire for his claim
: that Americans need guns to "defend themselves from tyranny."
: Illinois Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin then asked Baltimore Police Chief James
: Johnson how he felt about LaPierre's statement:
: "Chief Johnson, you heard it. The belief of NRA is the 2nd amendment gives
: American citizens the fire power to fight back against you, against our
: government. How can you conduct your business in enforcing the law, not
: knowing what is behind that door?"
: Chief Johnson: "I find it to be scary, creepy, and simply just not based on
: logic. Frankly, I can't relate to that kind of thinking."
| r*********e
发帖数: 7733 | 7 你麻痹有病嘛？达拉斯的5个警察是暴政？
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 自顶一下，悼念警察。整天嚷嚷拥枪反抗暴政的，面对5位警察的血，应该反思一下。
:
: claim
: James
: on
| f**********n
发帖数: 29853 | 8 丫这是教科书式的人血馒头。
【在 r*********e 的大作中提到】
: 你麻痹有病嘛？达拉斯的5个警察是暴政？
| c*******o
发帖数: 8869 | 9 曲解founding father的原话，神圣化枪支反抗暴政的作用，暗示把某某法官爆头，是
造成大规模袭警事件的重要成因。
【在 r*********e 的大作中提到】
: 你麻痹有病嘛？达拉斯的5个警察是暴政？
| d*******p
发帖数: 2525 | 10 当supreme court宣布警察没有针对个人进行保护的义务后，自卫的责任就全部在个人
自己身上了，这也是为什么美国从绝大部分州严格禁枪变成所有州都允许至少某种程度
的concealed carry的原因。这也是绝大部分州会通过城堡法的原因。
另外，楼主懂不懂什么叫tyranny? | c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 11 别跟 发春 真生气，他这样 也不是一天两天了。 | j*****v
发帖数: 7717 | 12 发春，来来来，曲解一下
"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress,
January 8, 1790
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from
time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them
take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787
"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They
disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes..
.. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the
assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an
unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist
Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I
advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives
boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the
ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no
character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of
your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert
that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by
themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824
"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves
back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit
manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may
be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us]
conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823
"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from
the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November
, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think
that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in
some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our
superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having
been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778
“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
"To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by
Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State
Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788
"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a
few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are
in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal
Constitution, October 10, 1787
"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the
people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate
governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia
officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition,
more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can
admit of."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A
well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms,
is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789
"...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in
the people alone..."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the
argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18,
1783
“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and
include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men
capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the
whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike,
especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who
approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright
force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object
is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778
"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of
self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the
study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible.
Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep
and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty
, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
- St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803
"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other
hand, arms, like law, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in
awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance
ofpower is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all
the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not
, others dare not lay them aside. And while a single nation refuses to lay
them down, it is proper that all should keep them up. Horrid mischief would
ensue were one-half the world deprived of the use of them; for while avarice
and ambition have a place in the heart of man, the weak will become a prey
to the strong. The history of every age and nation establishes these truths,
and facts need but little arguments when they prove themselves."
- Thomas Paine, "Thoughts on Defensive War" in Pennsylvania Magazine, July
1775
"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the
United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788
"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered,
as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong
moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will
generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the
people to resist and triumph over them."
- Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, 1833
"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a
standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade
the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the
militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17,
1789
"For it is a truth, which the experience of ages has attested, that the
people are always most in danger when the means of injuring their rights are
in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 25, December 21, 1787
"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is
then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-
defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which
against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with
infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an
individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme
power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of
which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no
regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms,
without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage
and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28
"[I]f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army
of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the
people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior
to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their
own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only
substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible
security against it, if it should exist."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788
"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may
attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally
raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of
their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their
right to keep and bear their private arms."
- Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789
【在 c*******o 的大作中提到】
: 曲解founding father的原话，神圣化枪支反抗暴政的作用，暗示把某某法官爆头，是
: 造成大规模袭警事件的重要成因。
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