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g********2
发帖数: 6571
1
‘Winter Is Coming’ Warns The Solar Physicist The Alarmists Tried To
Silence
by James Delingpole12 Aug 2016
Make the most of this summer because it could be your last decent one:
winter is coming as the planet enters the most devastating cooling period
since the 65-year Maunder Minimum of the 17th and early 18th centuries.
This is the dire forecast of Professor Valentina Zharkova, a solar physicist
at Northumbria University, who has based her prediction on sun spot
activity – known to be a significant driver of global climate – which is
currently very low and likely to get even lower during the next three solar
cycles.
She has spoken about her research and her battle to get it taken seriously
by the climate establishment in an interview with the Global Warming Policy
Forum. You can see it in this short film.
Video: Evidence of recent water flows on Mars: Scientists
According to Professor Zharkova:
We will see it from 2020 to 2053, when the three next cycles will be
very reduced magnetic field of the sun. Basically what happens is these two
waves, they separate into the opposite hemispheres and they will not be
interacting with each other, which means that resulting magnetic field will
drop dramatically nearly to zero. And this will be a similar conditions like
in Maunder Minimum.
What will happen to the Earth remains to be seen and predicted because
nobody has developed any program or any models of terrestrial response –
they are based on this period when the sun has maximum activity — when the
sun has these nice fluctuations, and its magnetic field [is] very strong.
But we’re approaching to the stage when the magnetic field of the sun is
going to be very, very small.
The Maunder Minimum occurred during the depths of the Little Ice Age, a
period of feeble summers and bitingly cold winters, war, pestilence and
famine. It wasn’t all bad: rivers like the Thames in London froze so
thickly they could accommodate Ice Fairs; and it’s said that the slow tree
growth induced by the cold gave the wood in Stradivarius violins their
special timbre. On the whole, though, a descent into a new mini Ice Age
would be massively debilitating both to the global economy and people’s
living standards. Since the Little Ice Age ended in the middle of the
Nineteenth century, we have all got used to the comforts and agricultural
advantages (such as being able to grow wheat in more northerly latitudes) of
living through a period of global warming. A second Little Ice Age will
come as a very nasty shock.
That shock will be felt most especially by the world’s climate alarmist
Establishment, whose scientists and learned institutions have staked their
reputation on the idea that CO2, not solar activity, is the prime driver of
climate and that the planet is on a warming trend not a cooling one.
This explains why when Professor Zharkova first released her findings last
year, various climate alarmists went behind her back to the Royal
Astronomical Society to try to persuade them to withdraw the press release.
Some of them were welcoming and discussing. But some of them were quite
— I would say — pushy. They were trying to actually silence us. Some of
them contacted the Royal Astronomical Society, demanding, behind our back,
that they withdraw our press release. The Royal Astronomical Society replied
to them and CCed to us and said, ‘Look, this is the work by the scientists
who we support, please discuss this with them.’ We had about 8 or 10
exchanges by email, when I tried to prove my point, and I’m saying, I’m
willing to look at what you do, I’m willing to see how our results we
produced and what the sun has explained to us. So how this is transformed
into climate we do not produce; we can only assume it should be. So we’re
happy to work with you, and add to your data our results. So don’t take the
sunspots which you get, we can give you our curve. Work with our curve. So
they didn’t want to.
But Zharkova’s ice age predictions have been backed by a number of
scientists, among them Australia’s Dr David Evans with his Notch-Delay
solar theory and, more surprisingly, by scientists at Germany’s
ideologically warmist Potsdam Institute.
Meteorologist Paul Dorian of Vencore Weather has also predicted an imminent
solar minimum as the world finds itself in the weakest solar cycle for more
than a century.
Evans is so confident of the imminent cooling that he’s helping set up a
hedge fund specifically geared to betting against global warming. I’ve
written about this before at Breitbart. It’s called Cool Futures and I am
– technically speaking – a hedge fund manager because I bought a share in
it. You can too if you go to their website. It seems to me a very sensible
way of getting payback for all that green guff we’ve been sold over the
last few decades. Perhaps with the profits, we shareholders might be among
the few people able to afford the extravagantly high heating bills during
the coming mini Ice Age. If he’s really lucky and we’re feeling generous
when he comes knocking at our door begging for help, we might even be kind
enough to toss the odd lump of coal or two in the direction of a shivering,
starving old man with a tattered tartan tie round his neck.
“See that sad old loser?” we can say to our kids. “That guy used to be a
billionaire hedge fund manager. Tom Steyer, his name is. Poor guy went and
staked everything on global warming. Go on, kids. Have a pity on him. Chuck
him one more piece of coal. And if you can get him on the head this time
that’ll score you an extra fifty points.”
g********2
发帖数: 6571
2
有人说,川普连“global warming”都不承认,不能选他。
那么请这人读读这篇文章。
还有下面这篇:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/USANews/32048921.html
s****Y
发帖数: 1004
3
你可以选择不相信global warming,正如你可以选择不相信进化论或者不相信地球绕着
太阳转。
然而,事实就是目前的科学结论就是global warming正在进行时。

physicist
solar

【在 g********2 的大作中提到】
: ‘Winter Is Coming’ Warns The Solar Physicist The Alarmists Tried To
: Silence
: by James Delingpole12 Aug 2016
: Make the most of this summer because it could be your last decent one:
: winter is coming as the planet enters the most devastating cooling period
: since the 65-year Maunder Minimum of the 17th and early 18th centuries.
: This is the dire forecast of Professor Valentina Zharkova, a solar physicist
: at Northumbria University, who has based her prediction on sun spot
: activity – known to be a significant driver of global climate – which is
: currently very low and likely to get even lower during the next three solar

b*****e
发帖数: 5907
4
科学结论个毛啊,搞了这么多年连一个让人信服的paper都没有,你还好意思说科学结
论?呵呵

【在 s****Y 的大作中提到】
: 你可以选择不相信global warming,正如你可以选择不相信进化论或者不相信地球绕着
: 太阳转。
: 然而,事实就是目前的科学结论就是global warming正在进行时。
:
: physicist
: solar

s****Y
发帖数: 1004
5
paper多了去了,科学界是信服的。
你自己不信是你的事,不要造谣胡说“连一个让人信服的paper都没有”。

【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 科学结论个毛啊,搞了这么多年连一个让人信服的paper都没有,你还好意思说科学结
: 论?呵呵

f**********n
发帖数: 29853
6
哪一篇?链接,请。

【在 s****Y 的大作中提到】
: paper多了去了,科学界是信服的。
: 你自己不信是你的事,不要造谣胡说“连一个让人信服的paper都没有”。

g********2
发帖数: 6571
7
你这就是在翻老皇历了,现在都已经把“global warming”改成“climate change”了
,你还不知道?

【在 s****Y 的大作中提到】
: 你可以选择不相信global warming,正如你可以选择不相信进化论或者不相信地球绕着
: 太阳转。
: 然而,事实就是目前的科学结论就是global warming正在进行时。
:
: physicist
: solar

f**********n
发帖数: 29853
8
丫尿遁了。今晚又没劲透了。

【在 g********2 的大作中提到】
: 你这就是在翻老皇历了,现在都已经把“global warming”改成“climate change”了
: ,你还不知道?

r***i
发帖数: 9780
9
变暖教就是左逼一部分吧
s****Y
发帖数: 1004
10
你自己claim“一篇令人信服的都没有”,那想必你已经读了很多,还假惺惺的要链接?

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 哪一篇?链接,请。
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J*****n
发帖数: 4859
11

如果真的是铁板钉钉的事实,一篇paper就足够了。
事实是,现在人类对于地球气候的变化的了解还是众说纷纭。
地球在长时间内其实属于冰河期,我们目前处于间冰期,这次间冰期起源于一万年前。
小冰河期说不定啥时候就来了。
再说说二氧化碳的问题,目前的二氧化碳是360ppm.早在侏罗纪的时候,二氧化碳含量
为2000ppm, 也没有看到海洋淹没大陆。而且之后,也没有看到地球彻底温室话。

【在 s****Y 的大作中提到】
: paper多了去了,科学界是信服的。
: 你自己不信是你的事,不要造谣胡说“连一个让人信服的paper都没有”。

f**********n
发帖数: 29853
12
这个回答就是先造谣,把别人的话栽在我身上。再胡搅蛮缠,你丫有很多论文,但是就
是不给你看。
再说了,我要个链接,就写了六个字,你还能看出我的态度?
你丫就是属于典型的要注意力不要脸。

接?

【在 s****Y 的大作中提到】
: 你自己claim“一篇令人信服的都没有”,那想必你已经读了很多,还假惺惺的要链接?
m***n
发帖数: 459
13
我知道一个美国工程院院士是不支持变暖教的,以前上课的时候还批判过。不过科学界
确实很多人相信变暖教。上次开会,另一个院士就批评之前的院士,说他是为数不多不
支持global warming的high profile scientist。其实global warming与否,在参杂了
那么多政治和经济利益后,确实很难界定。就像我说地那个不支持全球变暖的院士,他
写文章的时候有时候也不得不在introduction的时候提一下全球变暖。当然这种情况更
多的发生在他跟人合写的文章里,他自己的文章好像能不说就不说了。
s****Y
发帖数: 1004
14
你要是真的一篇都没看过还敢来讨论这个问题,那才叫令人佩服,佩服!

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 这个回答就是先造谣,把别人的话栽在我身上。再胡搅蛮缠,你丫有很多论文,但是就
: 是不给你看。
: 再说了,我要个链接,就写了六个字,你还能看出我的态度?
: 你丫就是属于典型的要注意力不要脸。
:
: 接?

f**********n
发帖数: 29853
15
我要是举证我看过,你怎么办?
只有你这种草包,才把读论文当作件大事。

【在 s****Y 的大作中提到】
: 你要是真的一篇都没看过还敢来讨论这个问题,那才叫令人佩服,佩服!
s****Y
发帖数: 1004
16
老夫就是看不惯你这一副无知又假惺惺的面孔;无知就算了,而且连中文阅读看来都有
些障碍,连反讽都读不懂?
我从一开始说你要链接假惺惺,为什么?因为我觉得你多少总该看过一些论证全球变暖
的文献呗。做人要是有种,就该是你要觉得哪篇不能让你信服你把哪篇贴出来讨论。假
惺惺的要链接,丢人不丢人?

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 我要是举证我看过,你怎么办?
: 只有你这种草包,才把读论文当作件大事。

f**********n
发帖数: 29853
17
你没料,一点都没,慢慢在这儿骂吧。
我看过的变暖教的论文,在楼主给出的连接里,中文还是我总结的。
不和你个草包玩了,我时间再多,也不想从事畜牧业。再见。

【在 s****Y 的大作中提到】
: 老夫就是看不惯你这一副无知又假惺惺的面孔;无知就算了,而且连中文阅读看来都有
: 些障碍,连反讽都读不懂?
: 我从一开始说你要链接假惺惺,为什么?因为我觉得你多少总该看过一些论证全球变暖
: 的文献呗。做人要是有种,就该是你要觉得哪篇不能让你信服你把哪篇贴出来讨论。假
: 惺惺的要链接,丢人不丢人?

s****Y
发帖数: 1004
18
我有料没料,和global warming是正在发生的科学事实有个半毛钱关系。
阁下无知也就算了,low的人身攻击一套接一套,我都替你害臊。
无知不可怕,无知还要无礼、无底线,一点decency都不替自己留,专门跑到美国来给
中国人丢脸,老夫我想想都替你伤心。请了,请了~

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 你没料,一点都没,慢慢在这儿骂吧。
: 我看过的变暖教的论文,在楼主给出的连接里,中文还是我总结的。
: 不和你个草包玩了,我时间再多,也不想从事畜牧业。再见。

f**********n
发帖数: 29853
19
你享受你的泥潭撕打,我不享受。
恕不奉陪,谢谢顶贴。

【在 s****Y 的大作中提到】
: 我有料没料,和global warming是正在发生的科学事实有个半毛钱关系。
: 阁下无知也就算了,low的人身攻击一套接一套,我都替你害臊。
: 无知不可怕,无知还要无礼、无底线,一点decency都不替自己留,专门跑到美国来给
: 中国人丢脸,老夫我想想都替你伤心。请了,请了~

t*******d
发帖数: 12895
20
口号自己多喊两遍就成科学事实了?牛逼

【在 s****Y 的大作中提到】
: 我有料没料,和global warming是正在发生的科学事实有个半毛钱关系。
: 阁下无知也就算了,low的人身攻击一套接一套,我都替你害臊。
: 无知不可怕,无知还要无礼、无底线,一点decency都不替自己留,专门跑到美国来给
: 中国人丢脸,老夫我想想都替你伤心。请了,请了~

s****Y
发帖数: 1004
21
我也不为难你,你可以列一列全美排名前100的研究型院校里理工科反对global
warming这一科学事实的教授的名单。

【在 t*******d 的大作中提到】
: 口号自己多喊两遍就成科学事实了?牛逼
f**********n
发帖数: 29853
22
真是够了,你丫有啥脸面找人列名单?
你丫前面说,论文很多,我问给一个链接?你丫说,我不给。
你还有脸一而再再而三地胡搅蛮缠,真是不要脸到极致。

【在 s****Y 的大作中提到】
: 我也不为难你,你可以列一列全美排名前100的研究型院校里理工科反对global
: warming这一科学事实的教授的名单。

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