l*****o
发帖数: 19235 | 1 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/03/voter-fraud-california-man-finds-dozens-ballots-stacked-outside-home.html
erry Mosna was gardening outside his San Pedro, Calif., home Saturday when
he noticed something odd: Two stacks of 2016 ballots on his mailbox.
The 83 ballots, each unused, were addressed to different people, all
supposedly living in his elderly neighbor’s two-bedroom apartment.
“I think this is spooky,” Mosna said. “All the different names, none we
recognize, all at one address.”
His wife, Madalena Mosna, noted their 89-year-old neighbor lives by herself,
and, “Eighty people can’t fit in that apartment.”
They took the ballots to the Los Angeles Police Department, but were
directed to the post office. They felt little comfort there would be an
investigation, and called another neighbor, John Cracchiolo – who contacted
the Los Angeles County Registrar's office.
A spokeswoman for the Registrar said the office will investigate. Both
Cracchiolo and Jerry Mosna told FoxNews.com they think they stumbled upon a
case of fraud.
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Jerry Mosna, right, and his neighbor John Cracchiolo, left. (FoxNews.com)
“Yes, there is voter fraud. We saw it with our own eyes,” Cracchiolo said.
In a statement, the office of the Registrar said, “We are carefully
reviewing our records and gathering information to fully identify what took
place. Our preliminary assessment is that this appears to be an isolated
situation related to a system error that occurred causing duplicate ballots
to be issued to an address entered for a single voter. We are working
directly with the system vendor to ensure the issue is addressed and to
identify any similar occurrences.”
Further, spokeswoman Brenda Duran said the Postal Service “has indicated
that they returned all of the improperly addressed ballots to our office.”
Spokesman Richard Maher confirmed the U.S. Postal Inspection Service has
offered its assistance. He would not comment on the number of incidents,
saying only there are “relatively few.”
John Fund, a journalist and co-author with Hans von Spakovsky of the book,
“Who’s Counting: How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk,”
said someone could easily have voted with these ballots using a variety of
fake signatures.
“It is doubtful they would have ever been detected,” Fund said.
Von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow and manager of the Election Law Reform
Initiative at the Heritage Foundation, said voter fraud is prevalent enough
that it could make the difference in a close election. The Heritage
Foundation, he said, has recorded 430 cases of voter fraud -- proven cases
where someone was convicted or a judge ordered a new election.
A former FEC commissioner and counsel to the assistant attorney general for
civil rights at the U.S. Justice Department, von Spakovsky said California
is of particular concern because of the rising number of noncitizens
illegally registering and voting in elections, as well as the “terrible
shape” the voter registration rolls are in.
The 89-year-old neighbor to whom the stack of ballots was addressed is hard
of hearing, and was unavailable for comment. The Mosnas stressed that the
ballots clearly were not for her -- and have not even discussed the issue
with her. | u*****7
发帖数: 746 | | l*****o
发帖数: 19235 | 3 83张死人票照片
herself,
【在 l*****o 的大作中提到】
: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/03/voter-fraud-california-man-finds-dozens-ballots-stacked-outside-home.html
: erry Mosna was gardening outside his San Pedro, Calif., home Saturday when
: he noticed something odd: Two stacks of 2016 ballots on his mailbox.
: The 83 ballots, each unused, were addressed to different people, all
: supposedly living in his elderly neighbor’s two-bedroom apartment.
: “I think this is spooky,” Mosna said. “All the different names, none we
: recognize, all at one address.”
: His wife, Madalena Mosna, noted their 89-year-old neighbor lives by herself,
: and, “Eighty people can’t fit in that apartment.”
: They took the ballots to the Los Angeles Police Department, but were
| g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 4 这可真是歪打正着，选票肯定是寄到隔壁老人家那里，然后有谁来取，再分发给那80多
个人去投票的，结果邮递员放错了地方，被几个警惕性高的人发现了。 | l*****o
发帖数: 19235 | 5 抓到的是一个，没抓到的不知道有多少，加州大本营都这么干，简直疯了。
【在 g********2 的大作中提到】
: 这可真是歪打正着，选票肯定是寄到隔壁老人家那里，然后有谁来取，再分发给那80多
: 个人去投票的，结果邮递员放错了地方，被几个警惕性高的人发现了。
| v***v
发帖数: 5504 | 6 这种死证据一定要每张都照相啊，每个收信人是谁，死了多久都可以查的。不要就这样
还回去了吧？找trump律师队伍先取证啊
否则，警局邮局选委会都不管了，还来一句“indicated that they returned all of
the improperly addressed ballots to our office.” | B*Q
发帖数: 25729 | | E*****5
发帖数: 1068 | 8 警察不管，选委会弄不好就是那强盗。群众居然又把赃物送强盗窝里了，不是太纯洁，
就是智商令人担忧 | a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 9 美国大选turnout无非就是55%
这种情况有40%的人可以被冒名顶替
就是你不小心就被投票了
对于美国总统经常是几个%的差距而已
这个空隙显然太大了
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 13
【在 l*****o 的大作中提到】
: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/03/voter-fraud-california-man-finds-dozens-ballots-stacked-outside-home.html
: erry Mosna was gardening outside his San Pedro, Calif., home Saturday when
: he noticed something odd: Two stacks of 2016 ballots on his mailbox.
: The 83 ballots, each unused, were addressed to different people, all
: supposedly living in his elderly neighbor’s two-bedroom apartment.
: “I think this is spooky,” Mosna said. “All the different names, none we
: recognize, all at one address.”
: His wife, Madalena Mosna, noted their 89-year-old neighbor lives by herself,
: and, “Eighty people can’t fit in that apartment.”
: They took the ballots to the Los Angeles Police Department, but were
| u****q
发帖数: 24345 | 10
冒着重罪的危险在深蓝州搞这种事，真的很奇怪。
【在 B*Q 的大作中提到】
: 扯
: 在加州根本就没必要
| | | a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 11 不一定是死人
很可能是过去十年从来没投过票的老人
这个空间太大了还更不好查
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 13
【在 l*****o 的大作中提到】
: 83张死人票照片
:
: herself,
| a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 12 看地方了
要知道，民主党想要super majority
还是有些地方要操作的
这个太黑了
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 13
【在 B*Q 的大作中提到】
: 扯
: 在加州根本就没必要
| a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 13 你天真了，这个是大选多合一的
尼玛这一张选票就是一个voter fraud和一个mail fraud。80张可以让人坐800年牢了
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 13
【在 u****q 的大作中提到】
:
: 冒着重罪的危险在深蓝州搞这种事，真的很奇怪。
| a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 14 话说你的投票历史可以查到么？现在技术用该没问题了
尼玛应该鼓动一些一辈子没投过的去查查看
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 13
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: 美国大选turnout无非就是55%
: 这种情况有40%的人可以被冒名顶替
: 就是你不小心就被投票了
: 对于美国总统经常是几个%的差距而已
: 这个空隙显然太大了
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 13
| m**o
发帖数: 9805 | 15 不一定是为了总统选举
还有公投
prop 52现在打的很凶
【在 u****q 的大作中提到】
:
: 冒着重罪的危险在深蓝州搞这种事，真的很奇怪。
| g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 16 你说深蓝就深蓝？
人家有内部民调，知道今年加州到底是什么颜色。
【在 u****q 的大作中提到】
:
: 冒着重罪的危险在深蓝州搞这种事，真的很奇怪。
| h**0
发帖数: 374 | 17 Re
herself,
【在 l*****o 的大作中提到】
: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/03/voter-fraud-california-man-finds-dozens-ballots-stacked-outside-home.html
: erry Mosna was gardening outside his San Pedro, Calif., home Saturday when
: he noticed something odd: Two stacks of 2016 ballots on his mailbox.
: The 83 ballots, each unused, were addressed to different people, all
: supposedly living in his elderly neighbor’s two-bedroom apartment.
: “I think this is spooky,” Mosna said. “All the different names, none we
: recognize, all at one address.”
: His wife, Madalena Mosna, noted their 89-year-old neighbor lives by herself,
: and, “Eighty people can’t fit in that apartment.”
: They took the ballots to the Los Angeles Police Department, but were
| u****q
发帖数: 24345 | 18 你说加州会红？真。的。吗？
【在 g********2 的大作中提到】
: 你说深蓝就深蓝？
: 人家有内部民调，知道今年加州到底是什么颜色。
| e**i
发帖数: 484 | 19 是的，这就是最可怕的地方。相信没有抓到的更多！这样丧心病狂，投多少选票都没有
用。而且她们知道不会有什么惩罚！ | r*****x
发帖数: 6988 | 20 你有往希狗发展的趋势
【在 B*Q 的大作中提到】
: 扯
: 在加州根本就没必要
| A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 21 别洗地了。虽然大选在加州没悬念，地区选举尤其是州内那些屁官在民主党眼里可是香
饽饽而且很有悬念，这样搞几千张足够左右一个state senator的胜负了
【在 B*Q 的大作中提到】
: 扯
: 在加州根本就没必要
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