w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 1 Homeland Security Secretary Has Said Border Wall Alone Will Not Work
By RON NIXONJAN. 25, 2017
John F. Kelly, the Homeland Security secretary, during his confirmation
hearing this month. At the hearing, he said that a “physical barrier will
not do the job.” Credit Al Drago/The New York Times
WASHINGTON — President Trump’s Homeland Security secretary, John F. Kelly,
has been clear about his views on a border wall with Mexico: It won’t work.
When asked by senators about his views on a border wall during his
confirmation hearing this month, Mr. Kelly, a retired general, said a “
physical barrier will not do the job.”
Mr. Trump said on Wednesday that he would order the construction of a wall
along the United States-Mexico border, fulfilling his campaign promise to
crack down on illegal immigration and stop the flow of drugs coming into the
United States.
Mr. Kelly said that a wall would be effective only to the extent that it was
backed up by far more sweeping measures.
“It has to be a layered defense,” Mr. Kelly said during an exchange with
Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. “If you build a wall, you would
still have to back that wall up with patrolling by human beings, by sensors
, by observation devices.”
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Rather than depending on a wall, Mr. Kelly said the key to stopping drug
smugglers was to attack the problem at its source.
“I believe the defense of the southwest border starts 1,500 miles south and
that is partnering with great countries as far south as Peru who are very
cooperative with us in terms of getting after the drug production transport,
” he said.
Mr. Kelly has made similar statements about protecting the border when he
led the United States Southern Command, overseeing about 1,000 military
personnel.
During numerous appearances before congressional committees, Mr. Kelly
called for a more balanced approach to protecting the borders, saying
security cannot “be attempted as an endless series of ‘goal-line stands’
on the one-foot line at the official ports of entry or along the thousands
of miles of border between this country and Mexico.”
He has supported increased aid for economic development, education and a
focus on human rights to combat unauthorized immigration and drug
trafficking.
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During Mr. Trump’s visit to the Homeland Security Department, he is also
expected to sign an executive order establishing a new refugee policy that
would halt admissions from war-torn Syria and suspend it from other majority
-Muslim nations until the administration can study how to properly vet them.
This would reverse an Obama administration policy of allowing displaced
people who can be resettled in the United States, such as those from Syria,
and effectively bars the entry of people from Muslim countries, including
Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia.
Muslim-American groups say the policy will amount to a ban on Muslim
immigrants, an idea that Mr. Trump brought up during his presidential
campaign.
It remains unclear how his orders will be carried out by Mr. Kelly and the
department he oversees, given Mr. Kelly’s previous statements about a
border wall and his desire to work with Muslim communities.
During his confirmation hearing, he said that the border wall might not “be
built anytime soon.”
And Mr. Kelly spoke of his desire to promote tolerance and reach out to
Muslim communities, saying that during his stint as a Marine Corps officer
in Iraq, his units were able to reduce violence in areas by reaching out to
Muslim leaders.
He also said people should not be targeted because of religious beliefs or
ethnic backgrounds.
Experts say a border wall will face numerous environmental and engineering
obstacles and will most likely face lawsuits from landowners on the frontier
who would have to give up their land for its construction. |
x*******1
发帖数: 28835 | 2 这东西就是意思意思得了。 非要一条路走到黑，就不可礼遇了。 用摄像头，drone，
哪一样不比这个有效？ |
A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 3 K老师真是纯种大傻逼，Kelly明明说的是只有墙还不够，必须得加上别的措施。左媒
标题
党fake news你就舔
【在 x*******1 的大作中提到】
: 这东西就是意思意思得了。 非要一条路走到黑，就不可礼遇了。 用摄像头，drone，
: 哪一样不比这个有效？
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 4 Kelly 是川普提名的部长，也是川普建墙命令的直接执行人 （是不是？）。他能够说
出这样的话，已经很难得了。
我想没有几个人说建一个墙一点儿用处都没有。十几米一个墙立在那里，赤手空拳走到
边境的单独墨西哥人，肯定会知难而退。但是如果有组织的，或者有组织帮助的偷渡者
，光有一个墙显然作用有限。Kelly 所说的其他配备的设施，其实已经婉转地贬低了墙
的作用。
其他辅助设施，当然是指监控，武器，以及充足的人员。但是如果这些配置达到了一定
的程度，墙其实不用十几米，只要四五米，甚至不用都可以，所以现在最难以完备的，
其实是墙之
外的那些配备人员和设施，可能远比墙更贵。
那个反对建墙的边境地区共和党议员还提到了情报人员的花费。他说如果把建墙的钱用
来装备培训更多的情报人员，可能比一个墙还要有效，那些毒枭蛇头是帮助偷渡者（从
中收钱）的主要问题。
K老师真是纯种大傻逼，Kelly明明说的是只有墙还不够，必须得加上别的措施。左媒
【在 A**d 的大作中提到】
: K老师真是纯种大傻逼，Kelly明明说的是只有墙还不够，必须得加上别的措施。左媒
: 标题
: 党fake news你就舔
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 5 德州边境线共和党议员批评川普的造墙计划
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jan 27 23:45:45 2017, 美东)
Texas GOP congressman slams Trump plan for border wall
By Elise Viebeck January 25
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan administers the House oath of office to Rep. Will
Hurd (R-Tex.) during a mock swearing-in ceremony in Washington on Jan. 3. (
Zach Gibson/AP)
The Republican congressman whose district includes more miles of U.S.-Mexico
border than any other came out against President Trump’s new executive
action ordering the “immediate construction” of a border wall to block
undocumented immigrants from entering the United States.
“Building a wall is the most expensive and least effective way to secure
the border,” Rep. Will Hurd (R-Tex.) said in a statement late Wednesday.
“Each section of the border faces unique geographical, cultural, and
technological challenges that would be best addressed with a flexible,
sector-by-sector approach that empowers the agents on the ground with the
resources they need.”
Hurd, one of 38 Texans in Congress, represents territory stretching from San
Antonio to El Paso, including 800 miles of border. His 23rd District is
majority-Hispanic and politically competitive: Hurd won a second term over
Democrat Pete Gallego by fewer than 4,000 votes in November.
His comment on Trump’s border wall came amid several days of planned
actions on immigration by the new president. Trump signed orders aimed at
cracking down on illegal immigration by creating more detention centers,
increasing the number of federal border agents and withholding federal funds
from cities that do not comply with federal immigration law.
Trump said construction of a wall will take place “as soon as we can
physically do it.… I would say in months.”
Hurd, who campaigned on a promise of standing up to Trump and this week
called on the new president to release his tax returns, said it is “
impossible” to build a physical wall in the rough terrain of his district.
“Big Bend National Park and many areas in my district are perfect examples
of where a wall is unnecessary and would negatively impact the environment,
private property rights and economy,” Hurd said, advocating for an “
intelligence-led approach” to border security.
No member of Texas’s congressional delegation had offered full-throated
support of a complete border wall as of Dec. 20, according to a survey by
the Texas Tribune.
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said Wednesday night that Congress would
appropriate money for the project and explore “different ways of getting
Mexico to contribute.” |
f*********1
发帖数: 2518 | 6 德州不是有几个傻逼议员最后也没投川吗？他拉段屎你赶紧上去舔？ |
w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 7 不管什么意见，听一听，耳朵会烂吗 ？
上面我引用的文章中，甚至提到了说德州没有一个国会议员无条件支持川普的建墙计划。
【在 f*********1 的大作中提到】
: 德州不是有几个傻逼议员最后也没投川吗？他拉段屎你赶紧上去舔？
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z*******i
发帖数: 598 | 8 这位墨墨这么希望把自己关在墙外面？真是脑残嘴臭智商低
K老师真是纯种大傻逼，Kelly明明说的是只有墙还不够，必须得加上别的措施。左媒
【在 A**d 的大作中提到】
: K老师真是纯种大傻逼，Kelly明明说的是只有墙还不够，必须得加上别的措施。左媒
: 标题
: 党fake news你就舔
|
f*********1
发帖数: 2518 | 9 你除了反对意见还有别的意见吗？建墙是川普上台前跟选他的选民的deal，你又没选他
，你反对他也不是一天两天了，他也没打算听你的意见没打算对你负责，叽歪什么？
：
：不管什么意见，听一听，耳朵会烂吗 ？ |
d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 10 左x的智商的确感动宇宙，人家说不带套干完不一定怀上，左x推出结论干了没用
Kelly,
work.
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: Homeland Security Secretary Has Said Border Wall Alone Will Not Work
: By RON NIXONJAN. 25, 2017
: John F. Kelly, the Homeland Security secretary, during his confirmation
: hearing this month. At the hearing, he said that a “physical barrier will
: not do the job.” Credit Al Drago/The New York Times
: WASHINGTON — President Trump’s Homeland Security secretary, John F. Kelly,
: has been clear about his views on a border wall with Mexico: It won’t work.
: When asked by senators about his views on a border wall during his
: confirmation hearing this month, Mr. Kelly, a retired general, said a “
: physical barrier will not do the job.”
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z*******o
发帖数: 4773 | 11 这容易，
川普选的马仔，
想干、干得好就干，不想干立马滚蛋。
想干的人多得是。 |
i******0
发帖数: 609 | 12 会
划。
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 不管什么意见，听一听，耳朵会烂吗 ？
: 上面我引用的文章中，甚至提到了说德州没有一个国会议员无条件支持川普的建墙计划。
|
w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 13 你的逻辑我不懂。我是美国公民，没有批评总统的权力？这里被中共，或者苏联接管了
吗 ？
你连最起码的美国宪法精神和原则都不明白 ？
你别忘了我在这个楼里提到的，都是川普自己的部下，和自己同一政党的人的意见，还
不是他正对面的政敌，听些不同意见，会过敏吗 ？
【在 f*********1 的大作中提到】
: 你除了反对意见还有别的意见吗？建墙是川普上台前跟选他的选民的deal，你又没选他
: ，你反对他也不是一天两天了，他也没打算听你的意见没打算对你负责，叽歪什么？
:
: ：
: ：不管什么意见，听一听，耳朵会烂吗 ？
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 14 他原来在公司里就这样做过，当场开了一个不同意见的高管。
【在 z*******o 的大作中提到】
: 这容易，
: 川普选的马仔，
: 想干、干得好就干，不想干立马滚蛋。
: 想干的人多得是。
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i******0
发帖数: 609 | 15 你有批评总统的权力，听众也有听了你扯的蛋耳朵不舒服的权力，你的明白？
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 你的逻辑我不懂。我是美国公民，没有批评总统的权力？这里被中共，或者苏联接管了
: 吗 ？
: 你连最起码的美国宪法精神和原则都不明白 ？
: 你别忘了我在这个楼里提到的，都是川普自己的部下，和自己同一政党的人的意见，还
: 不是他正对面的政敌，听些不同意见，会过敏吗 ？
|
i*****9
发帖数: 3157 | 16 最简单的问题，没墙你把摄像头装哪儿？
就算监狱，也是电网最有威慑，问题是没墙你把电网铺地上？太危险了，会电到无意路
过的路人的。 |
g***y
发帖数: 1025 | |
T**********2
发帖数: 341 | 18 你丫的，奥黑黑那么烂，做了那么多损害美国利益的事，你丫批评过吗？
: 你的逻辑我不懂。我是美国公民，没有批评总统的权力？这里被中共，或者苏联
接管了
: 吗 ？
: 你连最起码的美国宪法精神和原则都不明白 ？
: 你别忘了我在这个楼里提到的，都是川普自己的部下，和自己同一政党的人的意
见，还
: 不是他正对面的政敌，听些不同意见，会过敏吗 ？
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 他原来在公司里就这样做过，当场开了一个不同意见的高管。
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 19 当然批评过，而且还参加过示威请愿，并且在大选中把选票投给共和党。
【在 T**********2 的大作中提到】
: 你丫的，奥黑黑那么烂，做了那么多损害美国利益的事，你丫批评过吗？
:
:
: 你的逻辑我不懂。我是美国公民，没有批评总统的权力？这里被中共，或者苏联
: 接管了
:
: 吗 ？
:
: 你连最起码的美国宪法精神和原则都不明白 ？
:
: 你别忘了我在这个楼里提到的，都是川普自己的部下，和自己同一政党的人的意
: 见，还
:
: 不是他正对面的政敌，听些不同意见，会过敏吗 ？
:
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y**c
发帖数: 6307 | 20 不是所有议员都支持才是好的.
划。
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 不管什么意见，听一听，耳朵会烂吗 ？
: 上面我引用的文章中，甚至提到了说德州没有一个国会议员无条件支持川普的建墙计划。
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f**********n
发帖数: 29853 | 21 句句属实，字字如金
【在 i******0 的大作中提到】
: 会
:
: 划。
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 22 good point
【在 i*****9 的大作中提到】
: 最简单的问题，没墙你把摄像头装哪儿？
: 就算监狱，也是电网最有威慑，问题是没墙你把电网铺地上？太危险了，会电到无意路
: 过的路人的。
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 23 sorry but I don't care.
【在 i******0 的大作中提到】
: 会
:
: 划。
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 24 明白。你真倒霉有这样的过敏症，我不打算因此闭嘴，你有病要治，别耽误了。
【在 i******0 的大作中提到】
: 你有批评总统的权力，听众也有听了你扯的蛋耳朵不舒服的权力，你的明白？
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f**********n
发帖数: 29853 | 25 汪得慢早上好，你今天换了洋墨水，口袋里掏出来的钢笔写出来的字特有学问。
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: sorry but I don't care.
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 26 同意。但也不是有人反对就一定是好的。
兼听则明。
【在 y**c 的大作中提到】
: 不是所有议员都支持才是好的.
:
: 划。
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 27 谢夸奖，我自己没觉得更有学问，而且都是抄别人写的。
【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 汪得慢早上好，你今天换了洋墨水，口袋里掏出来的钢笔写出来的字特有学问。
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w********t
发帖数: 12853 | 28 我觉得你的智商令人着急： 人家没有说修了墙不一定有用，人家说的是修了墙没有其
它配套设施和人员配置跟上，基本没用。
你不带套干完了，如果没有其它设备辅助，以及其他人帮忙，就基本怀不上 ？ 那你
确实有问题。
你确定你考过 GRE, or GMAT ? 你确定川普需要你这样的人留在美国 ？
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 左x的智商的确感动宇宙，人家说不带套干完不一定怀上，左x推出结论干了没用
:
: Kelly,
: work.
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b*****e
发帖数: 5907 | 29 哈哈哈左臂一向这种逻辑
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 左x的智商的确感动宇宙，人家说不带套干完不一定怀上，左x推出结论干了没用
:
: Kelly,
: work.
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C*******h
发帖数: 6095 | 30 本来光建墙就不够，必须还要配合大量巡逻执法。他说的很对啊。他并没说因为光建墙
没用所以不支持建墙。
Kelly,
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.6
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: Homeland Security Secretary Has Said Border Wall Alone Will Not Work
: By RON NIXONJAN. 25, 2017
: John F. Kelly, the Homeland Security secretary, during his confirmation
: hearing this month. At the hearing, he said that a “physical barrier will
: not do the job.” Credit Al Drago/The New York Times
: WASHINGTON — President Trump’s Homeland Security secretary, John F. Kelly,
: has been clear about his views on a border wall with Mexico: It won’t work.
: When asked by senators about his views on a border wall during his
: confirmation hearing this month, Mr. Kelly, a retired general, said a “
: physical barrier will not do the job.”
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C*******h
发帖数: 6095 | 31 哪个公司不这样做？你试试跟你老板对着干两次他整不整你？
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.6
【在 w********t 的大作中提到】
: 他原来在公司里就这样做过，当场开了一个不同意见的高管。
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