h****r 发帖数: 258 | 1 这次来真的么?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/17/donald-trump-temporary-
worker-h1b-visa-executive-order
In a bid to court working class voters, Donald Trump will sign an executive
order on Tuesday to revamp a temporary visa programme used to bring foreign
workers to fill jobs in the US.
The president will use a visit to a manufacturing company in Kenosha,
Wisconsin, a crucial state he snatched from Hillary Clinton in the election,
to promote his latest “Buy America Hire America” offensive.
This includes an attempt to redress alleged abuses in the H-1B visas, which
are used largely by the tech industry, and on which has Trump shifted
position several times during the election campaign.
US suspension of fast track for H-1B visas leaves foreign workers in limbo
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H-1B visas admit 65,000 workers and another 20,000 graduate student workers
each year. Most of the visas are awarded to outsourcing firms, which critics
say exploit loopholes to fill lower-level IT jobs with foreign workers,
often at lower pay. The White House intends “a total transformation” of
the programme from a lottery to a merit-based system, a senior
administration official said.
Trump’s executive order will call on government departments to introduce
reforms to ensure that H-1B visas are awarded to the “most skilled or
highest paid applicants”, the official told reporters.
“Right now H-1B visas are awarded by random lottery and many of you will be
surprised to know that about 80% of H-1B workers are paid less than the
median wage in their fields. Only 5% to 6%, depending on the year, of H-1B
workers command the highest wage tier recognised by the Department of Labor.”
The official added: “The result is that workers are often brought in well
below market rates to replace American workers, violating the principle of
the programme, which is supposed to be a means for bringing in skilled
labour. Instead, you’re a lot of times bringing in workers that are less
skilled and lower paid than the workers they’re replacing.”
Perhaps the most notorious case cited during the campaign was at the Walt
Disney Company in Florida, where American technology workers claimed they
were laid off and forced to train foreign replacements. A judge dismissed a
lawsuit that accused Disney of conspiring with outsourcing companies to
violate visa laws.
Trump’s executive order will introduce reforms to ensure H-1B visas are
awarded to the ‘most skilled or highest paid applicants’.
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Trump’s executive order will introduce reforms to ensure H-1B visas are
awarded to the ‘most skilled or highest paid applicants’. Photograph: UPI
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The senior administration official said: “If you change that current system
that awards visas randomly, without regard for skill or wage, to a skills-
based awarding, it makes it extremely difficult to use the visa to replace
or undercut American workers ... It’s a very elegant way of solving very
systemic problems in the H-1B guest worker visa.”
He added: “I could foresee scenarios, which I won’t get into now, where
you just have a whole different way of looking at immigration. This is a
transitional step to get towards a more skills-based and merit-based
immigration system.”
The executive order will also call for the “strict enforcement” of laws
governing entry to the US of labour from overseas, with a view to creating
higher wages and employment rates for US workers.
'My worst nightmare': high-skilled tech workers fear Trump visa crackdown
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The order will also call on government departments to “take prompt action
to crack down on fraud and abuse” in the immigration system, a senior
administration official said.
There was a tense moment at Monday’s off-camera briefing when a reporter
asked about Trump’s own hiring of temporary foreign guest workers at his
Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida and other Trump properties. The official
replied: “I think it’s important to understand that the job of the
president of the United States is to set policy for federal government so
any questions about a private company’s practices is not something I’m
even able to speak to or answer.
“But I think during the campaign the president addressed this at length. I
’m frankly surprised that you didn’t brief yourself before coming here ...
I don’t know if you’re asking because you don’t know or you’re
pretending you don’t know.”
Reforming the distribution of H-1B visas was reportedly discussed during the
presidential transition with chief executives of tech companies at Trump
Tower in New York. Attorney general Jeff Sessions has been a long-time
critic. |
m****o 发帖数: 3762 | 2 摘要?
executive
foreign
election,
which
【在 h****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这次来真的么? : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/17/donald-trump-temporary- : worker-h1b-visa-executive-order : In a bid to court working class voters, Donald Trump will sign an executive : order on Tuesday to revamp a temporary visa programme used to bring foreign : workers to fill jobs in the US. : The president will use a visit to a manufacturing company in Kenosha, : Wisconsin, a crucial state he snatched from Hillary Clinton in the election, : to promote his latest “Buy America Hire America” offensive. : This includes an attempt to redress alleged abuses in the H-1B visas, which
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t******g 发帖数: 1667 | 3 摘要是明天才签
【在 m****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 摘要? : : executive : foreign : election, : which
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S********8 发帖数: 186 | 4 什么叫“搞H1B"? 这里面说的很清楚,就是要把随机抽签改成按资质和工资分配,优胜
劣汰,这么改革一是从道理上更说得通二是对中国学生更有利,为什么要一副惶惶不安
的样子 |
l***o 发帖数: 7937 | 5 如是甚好,这才是真正的MAGA和America First
【在 S********8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 什么叫“搞H1B"? 这里面说的很清楚,就是要把随机抽签改成按资质和工资分配,优胜 : 劣汰,这么改革一是从道理上更说得通二是对中国学生更有利,为什么要一副惶惶不安 : 的样子
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j********2 发帖数: 414 | |
C*********n 发帖数: 1032 | 7 搞H1B有什么错吗?
美国人优先有什么错吗?
床铺不就是因为要优先保证美国人的就业和福利才当选的吗?
外国人有什么权利唧唧歪歪? |
l********k 发帖数: 14844 | 8 好比京牌照车满为患,北京市出台政策限制外省牌照进五环。大部分北京市民都会支持
。河北菜农肯定不乐意。
: 搞H1B有什么错吗?
: 美国人优先有什么错吗?
: 床铺不就是因为要优先保证美国人的就业和福利才当选的吗?
: 外国人有什么权利唧唧歪歪?
【在 C*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 搞H1B有什么错吗? : 美国人优先有什么错吗? : 床铺不就是因为要优先保证美国人的就业和福利才当选的吗? : 外国人有什么权利唧唧歪歪?
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f*******t 发帖数: 7549 | 9 北京没菜农,这个类比不对。
改一下更好:限制外省出租车司机进五环,北京出租车司机肯定支持,河北司机肯定不
乐意。
【在 l********k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好比京牌照车满为患,北京市出台政策限制外省牌照进五环。大部分北京市民都会支持 : 。河北菜农肯定不乐意。 : : : 搞H1B有什么错吗? : : 美国人优先有什么错吗? : : 床铺不就是因为要优先保证美国人的就业和福利才当选的吗? : : 外国人有什么权利唧唧歪歪? :
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s*********g 发帖数: 368 | 10 名额是两院管,怎么选要不要抽签DHS说了算
【在 j********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 改抽签不应该是走两院么
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l*****6 发帖数: 7881 | 11 没看到针对small business的h1b的政策。 |
s******8 发帖数: 4192 | 12 打不到车的市民肯定也不乐意。
【在 f*******t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 北京没菜农,这个类比不对。 : 改一下更好:限制外省出租车司机进五环,北京出租车司机肯定支持,河北司机肯定不 : 乐意。
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f*******t 发帖数: 7549 | 13 出租车的比喻其实也不是很恰当。打不到车是因为出租车牌照数量有限制,H1B做的工
作一般没有牌照限制。
重新打个比方,本来必须北京户口才能做的工作,收入是平均工资的1.5倍。结果ICC组
织了
一堆河北人,只要1.2倍平均工资,抢走了很多职位。失业的北京市民只好吃福利(其
他北京市民交的税),只有资本家赚了(雇到了廉价劳工),大多数北京市民都不乐意
。这就是现在全球化的问题,确实从整个地球的角度经济效率更高,发展更快,但国家
内部贫富差距急速拉大,影响社会稳定。
【在 s******8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 打不到车的市民肯定也不乐意。
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u***n 发帖数: 10554 | 14 start-up 和 创业者也需要一种工作许可。
【在 l*****6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没看到针对small business的h1b的政策。
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h**********n 发帖数: 897 | 15 软件互联网业的start up工资并不低,就base来说往往比某些爱压entry level的大公
司base还高一些
如果是自己毕业即创业的话其实如果拿到funding还是很容易给自己申请H1b的,一般也
可以轻松高于EO的线
如果自己毕业创业而暂时拿不到funding的:何必呆美国搞,国内钱多得是。
综上,该EO打击的那帮ICC,版上左逼们有种来打脸? |
g******t 发帖数: 11249 | 16 那是请来的有经验的高手
新人工资压得很低的
【在 h**********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 软件互联网业的start up工资并不低,就base来说往往比某些爱压entry level的大公 : 司base还高一些 : 如果是自己毕业即创业的话其实如果拿到funding还是很容易给自己申请H1b的,一般也 : 可以轻松高于EO的线 : 如果自己毕业创业而暂时拿不到funding的:何必呆美国搞,国内钱多得是。 : 综上,该EO打击的那帮ICC,版上左逼们有种来打脸?
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