s********i 发帖数: 17328 | 1 https://nypost.com/2018/02/15/israels-gun-control-laws-can-make-the-us-safer
-too/
Israel exists under constant threat of attack — and requires citizens to
serve in the military — but still has much stricter gun laws than the
United States.
And those laws limit violence.
Israel has a lower gun-related homicide rate — and that’s not because it’
s an intrinsically peaceful society.
In fact, public health literature suggests that if Israel had more guns, it
would have more firearm deaths.
Even those Israelis who pass through extensive hoops to get a firearm permit
can only own one gun. And that’s a handgun — not a semi-automatic rifle
capable of rapid fire. There are also limits on ammunition.
Many US states grant gun permits liberally, but Israel limits gun permits to
people who meet strict requirements of residency, occupation, or army rank.
For instance, security workers, jewelers, hunters and West Bank residents
are eligible for permits.
Forty percent of all gun permit applicants are flat-out rejected by the
Israeli government.
Gun owners must renew their permits every year and immediately report any
change of eligibility status to the Israeli federal government.
Israel relies on professional members of the military and police force for
security, rather than “good guys with guns” or even Civil Guard volunteers.
The US has one firearm per capita, the highest in the world; second is Yemen
with 0.29-0.81 firearms per capita.
Israel comes in 81st with 0.073 firearms per capita.
The Israeli government has even restricted firearm access to current Israeli
soldiers when off-duty on weekends as part of a successful prevention
program that has halved firearm suicide — and 80 percent of the suicide
reduction appears to have come from the gun restrictions, rather than
counseling.
In the past 15 years, the US suicide rate has increased by 24 percent, and
two-thirds of firearm deaths are suicides.
Suicides are seen as private tragedies, whereas mass shooting events are
seen as communal tragedies.
Israel considered the soldier suicide rate to be a communal tragedy, and its
restriction on guns for the only part of society with gun access reduced
these deaths.
The US should follow Israel’s lead.
Janet Rosenbaum is an assistant professor of epidemiology at the School of
Public Health at the State University of New York Downstate in Brooklyn. She
‘s studied firearm access and ownership in Israel, which has a considerably
lower gun-related homicide rate than the US. |
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m******d 发帖数: 3243 | 3 你看看以色列对边境的控制吧,按照美国这边界情况,控枪就是给墨西哥毒贩又一笔买卖 |
s********i 发帖数: 17328 | 4 不用故左右而言它。基本上和我另一个帖子里说的差不多,限制枪支和弹药,每年续,
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m********e 发帖数: 1391 | 5 阿拉伯裔的以色列国会议员发来贺电。
只要以色列还是民主国家, 阿拉伯人迟早当家作主。
【在 i**********k 的大作中提到】 : 以色列把非犹太人当作狗,美国能做得到吗?
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Y**M 发帖数: 2315 | 6 要照搬以色列,最好多搬点来。
因为以色列治安良好,即便有不良好的方面,军警的密度也大,反应也灵敏,所以
民众手里才没必要有枪。
什么时候美国警察击毙黑人的时候,就像以色列军警击毙穆斯林时那么痛快,什么
时候美国才能像以色列那样控枪。
至于修墙就更不用说了。以色列的墙已经修好了,对安全有明显的提升。原来经常
发生自杀性爆炸的。
【在 s********i 的大作中提到】 : 不用故左右而言它。基本上和我另一个帖子里说的差不多,限制枪支和弹药,每年续, : 有情况要马上报告。
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a*********a 发帖数: 3656 | 7
safer
it
【在 s********i 的大作中提到】 : https://nypost.com/2018/02/15/israels-gun-control-laws-can-make-the-us-safer : -too/ : Israel exists under constant threat of attack — and requires citizens to : serve in the military — but still has much stricter gun laws than the : United States. : And those laws limit violence. : Israel has a lower gun-related homicide rate — and that’s not because it’ : s an intrinsically peaceful society. : In fact, public health literature suggests that if Israel had more guns, it : would have more firearm deaths.
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s********i 发帖数: 17328 | 8 不是民众手里没枪,以色列民众手里有枪啊,只不过有限制而已。控枪不是禁枪。好人
可以有基本的自卫权,让坏人或问题人员合法拥枪困难,非法的咱管不了。background
check不就是控枪么,禁自动枪不也是控枪么,已经在做了,要更加进一步控制。
美国现在的问题是枪支泛滥,是个人就能合法拥枪,出事的概率自然大增。
【在 Y**M 的大作中提到】 : 要照搬以色列,最好多搬点来。 : 因为以色列治安良好,即便有不良好的方面,军警的密度也大,反应也灵敏,所以 : 民众手里才没必要有枪。 : 什么时候美国警察击毙黑人的时候,就像以色列军警击毙穆斯林时那么痛快,什么 : 时候美国才能像以色列那样控枪。 : 至于修墙就更不用说了。以色列的墙已经修好了,对安全有明显的提升。原来经常 : 发生自杀性爆炸的。
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Y**M 发帖数: 2315 | 9 控枪当然是应该的,但也分谁控。
大陆曾经就出现过这种事:乌鲁木齐登机安检,是汉人就拼命地检,是维族就放过
;因为安检人员是维族。
(当然,这是习近平上台以前的事,现在这么干,估计直接就进监狱了。)
美国很多地方政府如果控枪,也会照此逻辑行事。这就是为什么很多右派连控枪都
抵触的缘故。
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【在 s********i 的大作中提到】 : 不是民众手里没枪,以色列民众手里有枪啊,只不过有限制而已。控枪不是禁枪。好人 : 可以有基本的自卫权,让坏人或问题人员合法拥枪困难,非法的咱管不了。background : check不就是控枪么,禁自动枪不也是控枪么,已经在做了,要更加进一步控制。 : 美国现在的问题是枪支泛滥,是个人就能合法拥枪,出事的概率自然大增。
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h*****2 发帖数: 154 | 10 瞎扯淡的
以色列满大街背自动步枪的下班军警
这些人没出问题就说明枪本身不是问题
safer
it
【在 s********i 的大作中提到】 : https://nypost.com/2018/02/15/israels-gun-control-laws-can-make-the-us-safer : -too/ : Israel exists under constant threat of attack — and requires citizens to : serve in the military — but still has much stricter gun laws than the : United States. : And those laws limit violence. : Israel has a lower gun-related homicide rate — and that’s not because it’ : s an intrinsically peaceful society. : In fact, public health literature suggests that if Israel had more guns, it : would have more firearm deaths.
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S***p 发帖数: 19902 | 11 确实枪本身不是问题
更根源的问题在于社会问题
但是社会问题基本无解
所以如果能空枪,还能安全一些
【在 h*****2 的大作中提到】 : 瞎扯淡的 : 以色列满大街背自动步枪的下班军警 : 这些人没出问题就说明枪本身不是问题 : : safer : it
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s*******9 发帖数: 1559 | 12 其实就是让主流持枪, 不让边缘持枪.
摆在美国,就是穷的没工作的有不良记录的不让持枪, 这就把问题青年和大部分黑墨排
除出去了. |
s********i 发帖数: 17328 | 13 就是这个意思,增加坏人持枪成本,好人可以继续持枪,直到变坏。现在枪支弹药就是
滥发。现代科技track合法枪支根本不是问题,最少可以做到防止坏人合法拥枪。
【在 s*******9 的大作中提到】 : 其实就是让主流持枪, 不让边缘持枪. : 摆在美国,就是穷的没工作的有不良记录的不让持枪, 这就把问题青年和大部分黑墨排 : 除出去了.
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s********i 发帖数: 17328 | 14 AI啊,以后机器人安检。机器人给发枪证。
【在 Y**M 的大作中提到】 : 控枪当然是应该的,但也分谁控。 : 大陆曾经就出现过这种事:乌鲁木齐登机安检,是汉人就拼命地检,是维族就放过 : ;因为安检人员是维族。 : (当然,这是习近平上台以前的事,现在这么干,估计直接就进监狱了。) : 美国很多地方政府如果控枪,也会照此逻辑行事。这就是为什么很多右派连控枪都 : 抵触的缘故。 : : background
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l*******g 发帖数: 27064 | 15 把左叉手里的枪都拿走,这个社会就安全了
这些大屠杀的,基本都是视人命为草芥,人命不如虫子动物的左叉垃圾
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【在 s********i 的大作中提到】 : 不是民众手里没枪,以色列民众手里有枪啊,只不过有限制而已。控枪不是禁枪。好人 : 可以有基本的自卫权,让坏人或问题人员合法拥枪困难,非法的咱管不了。background : check不就是控枪么,禁自动枪不也是控枪么,已经在做了,要更加进一步控制。 : 美国现在的问题是枪支泛滥,是个人就能合法拥枪,出事的概率自然大增。
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