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发帖数: 2199 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren3 (), 信区: Military
标 题: CDC：美没有更早控制欧洲游客是今天全球冠肺最严重的原因 （Fe
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 2 14:03:28 2020, 美东)
http://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-05-01/health-official-
says-us-missed-some-chances-to-slow-virus
NEW YORK (AP) — The U.S. government was slow to understand how much
coronavirus was spreading from Europe, which helped drive the acceleration
of outbreaks across the nation, a top health official said Friday.
Limited testing and delayed travel alerts for areas outside China
contributed to the jump in U.S. cases starting in late February, said Dr.
Anne Schuchat, the No. 2 official at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention.
“We clearly didn’t recognize the full importations that were happening,”
Schuchat told The Associated Press.
The coronavirus was first reported late last year in China, the initial
epicenter of the global pandemic. But the U.S. has since become the hardest-
hit nation, with about a third of the world's reported cases and more than a
quarter of the deaths.
The CDC on Friday published an article, authored by Schuchat, that looked
back on the U.S. response, recapping some of the major decisions and events
of the last few months. It suggests the nation’s top public health agency
missed opportunities to slow the spread. Some public health experts saw it
as important assessment by one of the nation's most respected public health
doctors.
The CDC is responsible for the recognition, tracking and prevention of just
such a disease. But the agency has had a low profile during this pandemic,
with White House officials controlling communications and leading most press
briefings.
“The degree to which CDC’s public presence has been so diminished ... is
one of the most striking and frankly puzzling aspects of the federal
government’s response,” said Jason Schwartz, assistant professor of health
policy at the Yale School of Public Health.
President Donald Trump has repeatedly celebrated a federal decision,
announced on Jan. 31, to stop entry into the U.S. of any foreign nationals
who had traveled to China in the previous 14 days. That took effect Feb. 2.
China had imposed its own travel restrictions earlier, and travel out of its
outbreak areas did indeed drop dramatically.
But in her article, Schuchat noted that nearly 2 million travelers arrived
in the U.S. from Italy and other European countries during February. The U.S
. government didn't block travel from there until March 11.
“The extensive travel from Europe, once Europe was having outbreaks, really
accelerated our importations and the rapid spread,” she told the AP. ”I
think the timing of our travel alerts should have been earlier."
She also noted in the article that more than 100 people who had been on nine
separate Nile River cruises during February and early March had come to the
U.S. and tested positive for the virus, nearly doubling the number of known
U.S. cases at that time.
The article is carefully worded, but Schwartz saw it as a notable departure
from the White House narrative.
“This report seems to challenge the idea that the China travel ban in late
January was instrumental in changing the trajectory of this pandemic in the
United States,” he said.
In the article, Schuchat also noted the explosive effect of some late
February mass gatherings, including a scientific meeting in Boston, the
Mardis Gras celebration in New Orleans and a funeral in Albany, Georgia. The
gatherings spawned many cases, and led to decisions in mid-March to
restrict crowds.
Asked about that during the interview, Schuchat said: “I think in
retrospect, taking action earlier could have delayed further amplification (
of the U.S. outbreak), or delayed the speed of it."
But she also noted there was an evolving public understanding of just how
bad things were, as well as a change in what kind of measures — including
stay-at-home orders — people were willing to accept.
“I think that people's willingness to accept the mitigation is
unfortunately greater once they see the harm the virus can do," she said. “
There will be debates about should we have started much sooner, or did we go
too far too fast."
Schuchat’s article still leaves a lot of questions unanswered, said Dr.
Howard Markel, a public health historian at the University of Michigan.
It doesn’t reveal what kind of proposals were made, and perhaps ignored,
during the critical period before U.S. cases began to take off in late
February, he said.
“I want to know ... the conversations, the memos the presidential edicts,"
said Markel, who's written history books on past pandemics. “Because I
still believe this did not need to be as bad as it turned out.”
The Associated Press Health and Science Department receives support from the
Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Department of Science Education. The AP
is solely responsible for all content. | w*******2
发帖数: 2199 | 2 川逼和川轮（黄）的碧莲都被抽肿了
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【在 w*******2 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: beijingren3 (), 信区: Military
: 标 题: CDC：美没有更早控制欧洲游客是今天全球冠肺最严重的原因 （Fe
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat May 2 14:03:28 2020, 美东)
: http://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-05-01/health-official-
: says-us-missed-some-chances-to-slow-virus
: NEW YORK (AP) — The U.S. government was slow to understand how much
: coronavirus was spreading from Europe, which helped drive the acceleration
: of outbreaks across the nation, a top health official said Friday.
: Limited testing and delayed travel alerts for areas outside China
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 3 床铺和女婿不让动静太大影响股市，这家人就是玩闹。 | w*******2
发帖数: 2199 | 4 川逼当总统的4年， 大体是发推替蜜柚pump股市的4年
剩余时间应对猪党的弹劾和迫害
盹盹盹
【在 T**********e 的大作中提到】
: 床铺和女婿不让动静太大影响股市，这家人就是玩闹。
| l**o
发帖数: 131 | 5 要点逼脸吧，第一，CDC有什么资格出来说话，丫们到现在还没有搞清楚测试盒Fail在
哪里；第二，Trump封中国都从主档那儿遇到了那么大的压力，封欧洲会被骂成什么样
？多半立刻就是第二个Muller来了。 | w*******2
发帖数: 2199 | 6 川逼宣布死亡10万就是胜利， 都没有任何压力
你这是完全补药碧莲
【在 l**o 的大作中提到】
: 要点逼脸吧，第一，CDC有什么资格出来说话，丫们到现在还没有搞清楚测试盒Fail在
: 哪里；第二，Trump封中国都从主档那儿遇到了那么大的压力，封欧洲会被骂成什么样
: ？多半立刻就是第二个Muller来了。
| w*******2
发帖数: 2199 | 7 川逼拿自己断航厉害国， 把毛衣战意识形态之争给自己洗涤抗疫果断英明的时候，
你们轮子就该知道它不断航欧洲必然证明了这完全是狗屁毛衣战意识形态
而不是川逼真觉得乙肺病毒有多厉害， 不就是个流感吗
哈哈哈
站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 3 03:16:43 2020, 美东)
Fail在
么样
【在 w*******2 的大作中提到】
: 川逼宣布死亡10万就是胜利， 都没有任何压力
: 你这是完全补药碧莲
| w*******2
发帖数: 2199 | 8 川逼长达一个月的流感说，
是川轮（黄）怎么舔屎也舔不干净的
哈哈哈
站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 3 03:20:33 2020, 美东)
发信
【在 w*******2 的大作中提到】
: 川逼拿自己断航厉害国， 把毛衣战意识形态之争给自己洗涤抗疫果断英明的时候，
: 你们轮子就该知道它不断航欧洲必然证明了这完全是狗屁毛衣战意识形态
: 而不是川逼真觉得乙肺病毒有多厉害， 不就是个流感吗
: 哈哈哈
:
: 站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 3 03:16:43 2020, 美东)
: Fail在
: 么样
| w*******2
发帖数: 2199 | 9 CDC确实是罪魁祸首之一： 试剂盒大傻逼+前期低估乙肺破坏性
但CDC是大傻逼， 就能否决了川逼是更大的傻逼？
CDC发言人关于川逼不断航的反省和控诉， 有哪一点错了？
段不断航，可不是CDC能决定的， 人家后期把建议给了，就够了，
在这个方面剩下的就不是CDC的责任了
盹盹盹
【在 l**o 的大作中提到】
: 要点逼脸吧，第一，CDC有什么资格出来说话，丫们到现在还没有搞清楚测试盒Fail在
: 哪里；第二，Trump封中国都从主档那儿遇到了那么大的压力，封欧洲会被骂成什么样
: ？多半立刻就是第二个Muller来了。
| f*********1
发帖数: 2518 | 10 CDC是唯一的罪魁祸首，没有之一
: CDC确实是罪魁祸首之一： 试剂盒大傻逼 前期低估乙肺破坏性
: 但CDC是大傻逼， 就能否决了川逼是更大的傻逼？
: CDC发言人关于川逼不断航的反省和控诉， 有哪一点错了？
: 段不断航，可不是CDC能决定的， 人家后期把建议给了，就够了，
: 在这个方面剩下的就不是CDC的责任了
: 盹盹盹
【在 w*******2 的大作中提到】
: CDC确实是罪魁祸首之一： 试剂盒大傻逼+前期低估乙肺破坏性
: 但CDC是大傻逼， 就能否决了川逼是更大的傻逼？
: CDC发言人关于川逼不断航的反省和控诉， 有哪一点错了？
: 段不断航，可不是CDC能决定的， 人家后期把建议给了，就够了，
: 在这个方面剩下的就不是CDC的责任了
: 盹盹盹
| | | r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 11 CDC在2月25日就劝说美国做好准备。
CDC
✔
@CDCgov
Now is the time for US businesses, hospitals, and communities to begin
preparing for the possible spread of #COVID19. CDC continues to work with
business, education & healthcare sectors, encouraging employers to be
prepared. Learn more: https://bit.ly/2w3HujZ .
3,350
6:23 PM - Feb 25, 2020
One of the top officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
warned Americans on Tuesday that health experts foresee the novel
coronavirus that has killed thousands spreading in the United States.
"We expect we will see community spread in this country," said Dr. Nancy
Messonnier, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and
Respiratory Diseases. "It's not so much a question of if this will happen
anymore, but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how
many people in this country will have severe illness."
The agency tweeted Tuesday evening that Americans should think about getting
ready.
Messonnier said her agency wants people to understand their lives might be
disrupted.
"We are asking the American public to work with us to prepare in the
expectation that this could be bad," she said.
She said CDC officials have been saying for weeks that while they hope the
spread won't be severe in the United States, they are planning as if it
could be.
"The data over the last week, and the spread in other countries, has
certainly raised our level of concern and raised our level of expectation"
of community spread, she said.
The CDC still doesn't know what that will look like, she added. Community
spread could be reasonably mild or very severe.
Americans should also talk to employers about working online and talk to
doctor's offices about telehealth, the CDC says.
Messonnier said she talked her family and told them that while they are not
at risk right now, they should plan for what to do if their lives were
significanly impacted. She said she called the children's school district
about what would happen if schools need to close.
【在 w*******2 的大作中提到】
: CDC确实是罪魁祸首之一： 试剂盒大傻逼+前期低估乙肺破坏性
: 但CDC是大傻逼， 就能否决了川逼是更大的傻逼？
: CDC发言人关于川逼不断航的反省和控诉， 有哪一点错了？
: 段不断航，可不是CDC能决定的， 人家后期把建议给了，就够了，
: 在这个方面剩下的就不是CDC的责任了
: 盹盹盹
| r******g
发帖数: 4002 | 12 CDC应该要先做好准备，养兵千日用兵一时，一个个职业官僚薪资那么高，拿来干嘛用
？CDC更不该成为民主党的帮凶，明里暗里丢锅，为了卖疫苗和11月大选而算计。
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: CDC在2月25日就劝说美国做好准备。
: CDC
: ✔
: @CDCgov
: Now is the time for US businesses, hospitals, and communities to begin
: preparing for the possible spread of #COVID19. CDC continues to work with
: business, education & healthcare sectors, encouraging employers to be
: prepared. Learn more: https://bit.ly/2w3HujZ .
: 3,350
: 6:23 PM - Feb 25, 2020
| l**w
发帖数: 865 | | r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 14 CDC的主要失误在于试剂盒的处理，画蛇添足的加了一个测全部冠状的引物探针组，导
致了一些微弱的假阳性反应。
另外就是垄断了检测。这不是CDC自己的错，而是政策问题。解决这个问题是川普的一
大功劳。
CDC一直也是把新冠当流感处理的。
川普的主要问题是不能面对现实——新冠早晚会在美国爆发，生活不可能完全回到原来
状况了。新冠以后该戴口罩得戴口罩，握手礼要取消，集会要控制规模，等等。
【在 r******g 的大作中提到】
: CDC应该要先做好准备，养兵千日用兵一时，一个个职业官僚薪资那么高，拿来干嘛用
: ？CDC更不该成为民主党的帮凶，明里暗里丢锅，为了卖疫苗和11月大选而算计。
| l**w
发帖数: 865 | 15
那是因为Trump说是大号流感，CDC内部不认同的也不敢说出来。周围全是“yes man”
难道不是领导的错？
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: CDC的主要失误在于试剂盒的处理，画蛇添足的加了一个测全部冠状的引物探针组，导
: 致了一些微弱的假阳性反应。
: 另外就是垄断了检测。这不是CDC自己的错，而是政策问题。解决这个问题是川普的一
: 大功劳。
: CDC一直也是把新冠当流感处理的。
: 川普的主要问题是不能面对现实——新冠早晚会在美国爆发，生活不可能完全回到原来
: 状况了。新冠以后该戴口罩得戴口罩，握手礼要取消，集会要控制规模，等等。
| l**o
发帖数: 131 | 16 CDC连一个敢站出来说测试盒为啥搞砸了的都没有，到今天还没有！倒是不时有人想站
出来给Trump吹哨，转移视线，可惜这法子实在下流，连主媒都提不起兴趣给它们吹箫。
比如肉丝汤他妹，丫就想吹哨，媒体要给她吹箫，就只好报道“那个把测试盒搞砸了的
主管，不知道为啥测试盒搞砸了，但是她搞砸后告诉了大众 - 不要管测试盒，形势很
不好，信我的！”
【在 l**w 的大作中提到】
:
: 那是因为Trump说是大号流感，CDC内部不认同的也不敢说出来。周围全是“yes man”
: 难道不是领导的错？
| w******e
发帖数: 953 | 17 Trump said Russian collusion was hoax. So what??
【在 l**w 的大作中提到】
:
: 那是因为Trump说是大号流感，CDC内部不认同的也不敢说出来。周围全是“yes man”
: 难道不是领导的错？
| r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 18 从流行病学上来讲，新冠的处理方式就是按流感来的。CDC本来也是希望用ILI系统来“
监测”疫情发展。CDC从来没有想过要像中国那样“控制”疫情。
【在 l**w 的大作中提到】
:
: 那是因为Trump说是大号流感，CDC内部不认同的也不敢说出来。周围全是“yes man”
: 难道不是领导的错？
| m********e
发帖数: 1391 | 19 老川断中国航肯定不是为了防疫， Ross说了， 制造业会因此回美国。。。
可惜啊， 老天不占美国这边。 土鳖生生的把切尔诺贝利给弄成了斯大林格勒。
【在 w*******2 的大作中提到】
: 川逼拿自己断航厉害国， 把毛衣战意识形态之争给自己洗涤抗疫果断英明的时候，
: 你们轮子就该知道它不断航欧洲必然证明了这完全是狗屁毛衣战意识形态
: 而不是川逼真觉得乙肺病毒有多厉害， 不就是个流感吗
: 哈哈哈
:
: 站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 3 03:16:43 2020, 美东)
: Fail在
: 么样
| S*****0
发帖数: 1 | 20 所以叔早就说了，
给中国加上tarriff就给欧盟加。
trump要锁国了 | m********e
发帖数: 1391 | 21 老川现在明明忙着要开国。。。
锁个屁股
【在 S*****0 的大作中提到】
: 所以叔早就说了，
: 给中国加上tarriff就给欧盟加。
: trump要锁国了
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