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b*********5
发帖数: 1 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: mstp (再上一次), 信区: Military
标 题: 讲真，要不是川普作弊，主党这次赢的更轻松
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 6 11:55:12 2020, 美东)
川普和川粉口口声声主党作弊。
要说作弊，谁比得上川普？
大妈网有人总结了，有理有据有出处，
对比川粉微信脸书截屏造谣阴谋论，高下立判。
(转)
我来整理一下川普通过邮政系统故意舞弊的时间线，这算证据确凿吗？
旁边那个贴太乱了，我做了点research，整理了一下时间线，尽量加上具体新闻的链接
，帮助大家了解查证整件事件的流程。。
零时做的research，肯定还漏掉了不少，欢迎大家补充
今年6月份，大选前几个月，川普任命Louis DeJoy为新的postmaster，主管邮政系统。
这家伙是川普竞选的大金主 (mega donor)
Louis DeJoy is a longtime Republican megadonor, and Trump ally https://www.
npr.org/2020/08/21/904346060/postmaster-general-faces-intense-scrutiny-amid-
allegations-of-political-motives )
他上台后干嘛了呢？以节约经费为名，开始大规模缩减员工工作时间和路线，并拆除邮
政系统中的自动拣选机 https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7wk9z/the-post-office-
is-deactivating-mail-sorting-machines-ahead-of-the-election
he announced an "organizational realignment" at the agency, These changes
included a reduction in employee overtime hours and the elimination of
postal-sorting machines.
The United States Postal Service is removing mail sorting machines from
facilities around the country without any official explanation or reason
given, In many cases, these are the same machines that would be tasked with
sorting ballots,
虽然之后被人举报国会紧急叫停，但他短短几个月里拆了多少台机器呢？
“USPS had only 4,824 mail sorting machines in October 2019” “USPS removed
711 sorting machines this year, new court documents show”
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/usps-removed-711-sorting-machines/
index.html
全国4800多台自动拣选机中的700多台被拆除。。。而这些机器每台都可以分拣“36,
000 pieces of mail per hour, 24/7,”
当面对国会听证问讯的时候，Louis极其强硬表示不会把已经拆除的机器重新装回去
“There''''s no intention to do that, they''''re not needed, sir,” DeJoy
said when asked by Sen. Gary Peters, D-Mich., whether the machines removed
under his watch would be brought back.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/21/usps-chief-dejoy-no-intention-to-bring-back-
removed-mail-sorting-machines.html
除了大规模拆自动分拣机，Louis开始减少邮政员工的整体工作时间。。
包括减少收取邮件的频率，减少late trips，缩短营业时间，关停网点，强迫到点下班
/不许加班，
Among the specifics are major changes to operations, such as leaving mail at
delivery centers if it might delay carriers, ending extra and late trips (
which help ensure all mail moves swiftly) and limiting “park points” where
carriers park their vehicles and walk to make deliveries.
USPS加快了拆除/减少邮箱的工作
USPS removes mail collection boxes and reduces post office hours as critics
accuse Trump administration of voter suppression
https://www.abc57.com/news/usps-removes-mail-collection-boxes-and-reduces-
post-office-hours-as-critics-accuse-trump-administration-of-voter-
suppression
被媒体曝光后，USPS被迫宣布将暂停在西部各州拆除邮箱。(但貌似东部，中部的拆除
继续？没找到后续报导）
USPS will stop removing letter collection boxes in Western states until
after the election https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/14/politics/usps-removes-
letter-collection-boxes-reduces-post-office-operating-hours/index.html
随着员工工作时间缩减和机器的拆除，USPS邮件准点率开始下降。。DeJoy, a major
donor to Republicans and committees supporting Trump’s reelection, admitted
in the hearing that “certainly there was a slowdown in the mail when our
production did not meet the schedule.”
USPS自己承认，有46个州，邮寄选票在选举日可能无法按时送到 USPS warned 46
states that it can''''t guarantee that all mail-in-ballots would arrive on
time to be counted
https://www.businessinsider.com/usps-warned-states-mail-ballots-may-not-
arrive-time-2020-8
面对这个问题，民主党众议院通过提案，紧急拨款250亿美元给美国邮政，以应对即将
到来的美国大选。。https://www.wsj.com/articles/house-set-to-vote-on-bill-
barring-postal-service-cuts-11598088602
但川普强烈反对拨款 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/white-house-rejects-
house-bill-for-emergency-postal-service-aid-2020-08-23
White House chief of staff Mark Meadows rejected the legislation the House
passed late Saturday to provide $25 billion and block operational changes by
Postmaster General Louis DeJoy.
Trump on Thursday again came out against that proposal on the grounds that
it would help the USPS handle mail-in ballots, which he wrongfully believes
would lead to voter fraud.
250亿美元的紧急拨款最终被卡在了共和党控制的参议院 https://www.vox.com/2020/9
/10/21429678/senate-stimulus-vote
这次大选有6500万张邮寄选票 （https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/03/us/elections
/mail-ballot-counting-vote.html)
大选当天的准时率才80% （https://www.cbsnews.com/news/usps-postal-service-
delivery-rates-slower/）
在一些关键摇摆州，邮件准时率更是低的令人发指 https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04
/2020-presidential-election-postal-data-shows-ballot-delivery-rate.html
in South Florida, just 85.12% of the mail-in ballots were delivered on
Election Day.
In central Pennsylvania, just 61.3% of the mail-ballots in the postal system
were delivered on time
In Philadelphia, slightly more than 66% of the mail-in ballots had been
delivered on Election Day.
In Atlanta 82.2% percent of the mail-in ballots were delivered on Election
Day, the court filing shows.
Detroit postal facilities reported less than 79% percent of mail-in ballots
delivered that day.
In Greensboro, North Carolina, 72.9% percent of the mail-in ballots were
delivered on Tuesday.
And in Lakeland, Wisconsin, slightly less than 77% of such ballots were
delivered, the filing revealed.
邮件没有准时投递会有啥影响？
There are 30 states that require absentee ballots be received by Election
Day to be counted. 对于这30个州的选民来说，选举当天没受到的选票直接作废
因为担心邮寄delay，很多州都准备给邮寄选票多留点时间。比如说关键摇摆州WI 想多
要求几天点票，结果直接被最高法院给否了。Last week, the Supreme Court quashed
a Wisconsin court decision that would have given mail-in ballots an
additional six days after Election Day to be counted.
最高法院5:3判的，这5票是哪方的法官投的？不用猜了吧？呵呵。。
这直接造成了，哪怕是选举日前1-2天寄出的选票，也会因为无法及时送到而被作废
"If you put your ballot in the mail yesterday or today and you live in a
state where the deadline is tomorrow, your vote probably isn''t going to get
counted,"
法官要求邮局在选举日当天对一些地区进行额外的检查，提高选票投递准时率，被无视
USPS disregards judge''s order to sweep 12 postal districts https://www.
washingtonpost.com/business/2020/11/03/election-ballot-delays-usps/
再看看几个摇摆州最终开票的差距，这是多大影响？
这时候川普在干嘛呢？ “Trump says hopefully states won''t be allowed to
count ballots after Election Day, which is a normal part of the electoral
process” https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hopes-states-wont-allowed-
count-ballots-after-election-day-2020-10
不光延误的选票作废，按时寄到的选票，他也不希望点完。
这算不算是系统性舞弊？
现在川普这就叫是作弊了都赢不了！ | r*****3
发帖数: 1 | 2 北京人，我就是看看你傻b了没，哈哈哈
白等要进监狱了，你也快了
【在 b*********5 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: mstp (再上一次), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 讲真，要不是川普作弊，主党这次赢的更轻松
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Nov 6 11:55:12 2020, 美东)
: 川普和川粉口口声声主党作弊。
: 要说作弊，谁比得上川普？
: 大妈网有人总结了，有理有据有出处，
: 对比川粉微信脸书截屏造谣阴谋论，高下立判。
: (转)
: 我来整理一下川普通过邮政系统故意舞弊的时间线，这算证据确凿吗？
| G*u
发帖数: 97 | 3 任何一个认真的选民，谁会最后一天邮寄选票？你这不是开玩笑就是添乱来了。要是真
把投票当回事，提前几天早把选票寄出去了。
邮寄造成的延误，只会给作弊留下时间和空间，用膝盖想想也知道 |
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