I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 1 A federal judge in Milwaukee on Saturday tossed out President Trump’s
latest effort to overturn the election results in Wisconsin, dismissing the
case and ruling that it had failed “as a matter of law and fact.”
In a strongly worded decision, Judge Brett H. Ludwig, a Trump appointee who
took his post only three months ago, shot down one of the president’s last
remaining attempts to alter the results of a statewide race. |
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 2 Twitter上法律专家对这个案子意义的评论：
This case is significant b/c Judge Ludwig considered it ON THE MERITS and
ruled against Trump.
Trump has been complaining that courts have been tossing his cases on
threshold issues like standing.
But one of his own appointees here gave him a full hearing and still
dismissed.
Even more this case echoes the Texas SCOTUS case in many ways. It makes
similar claims and arguments and asks for similar relief.
SCOTUS did not consider the Texas on the merits but this case, decided on
the merits, is something like the next best thing.
In fact, Ludwig, breaking from other judges, finds that Trump DOES have
standing to challenge how WI's state election laws were implemented.
But Ludwig rules against him anyhow.
These words from a Milwaukee federal judge, appointed by Trump, should put
to rest the notion that courts have not considered the president's election
complaints on the merits.
"This court has allowed plaintiff the chance to make his case and he has
lost on the merits."
In sum, this is both a huge defeat for the president but also eats away at
many of the threshold arguments that lawyers have used all month in beating
back legal assaults on the election.
It is thus a mixed bag in many ways and sets questionable precedents. |
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 3 川粉这下子该服了吧？
这个法官可是老川前不久任命的，这次也给了老川团队hearing，ruled on the Merrit
，还有啥complain吗？
: Twitter上法律专家对这个案子意义的评论：
: This case is significant b/c Judge Ludwig considered it ON THE MERITS
and
: ruled against Trump.
: Trump has been complaining that courts have been tossing his cases on
: threshold issues like standing.
: But one of his own appointees here gave him a full hearing and still
: dismissed.
: Even more this case echoes the Texas SCOTUS case in many ways. It
makes
: similar claims and arguments and asks for similar relief.
: SCOTUS did not consider the Texas on the merits but this case, decided
on
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: Twitter上法律专家对这个案子意义的评论：
: This case is significant b/c Judge Ludwig considered it ON THE MERITS and
: ruled against Trump.
: Trump has been complaining that courts have been tossing his cases on
: threshold issues like standing.
: But one of his own appointees here gave him a full hearing and still
: dismissed.
: Even more this case echoes the Texas SCOTUS case in many ways. It makes
: similar claims and arguments and asks for similar relief.
: SCOTUS did not consider the Texas on the merits but this case, decided on
|
o******1
发帖数: 12177 | |
c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 5 选票蓝区一个个验票调查才服，完全不服LOL
: 川粉这下子该服了吧？
: 这个法官可是老川前不久任命的，这次也给了老川团队hearing，ruled on the
Merrit
: ，还有啥complain吗？
: and
: makes
: on
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: 川粉这下子该服了吧？
: 这个法官可是老川前不久任命的，这次也给了老川团队hearing，ruled on the Merrit
: ，还有啥complain吗？
:
:
: Twitter上法律专家对这个案子意义的评论：
:
: This case is significant b/c Judge Ludwig considered it ON THE MERITS
: and
:
: ruled against Trump.
:
: Trump has been complaining that courts have been tossing his cases on
:
: threshold issues like standing.
|
v*********l
发帖数: 1 | 6 屡败屡战，坚持到底就是胜利！
Merrit
MERITS
on
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: 川粉这下子该服了吧？
: 这个法官可是老川前不久任命的，这次也给了老川团队hearing，ruled on the Merrit
: ，还有啥complain吗？
:
:
: Twitter上法律专家对这个案子意义的评论：
:
: This case is significant b/c Judge Ludwig considered it ON THE MERITS
: and
:
: ruled against Trump.
:
: Trump has been complaining that courts have been tossing his cases on
:
: threshold issues like standing.
|
B********e
发帖数: 10014 | 7 不是每一次摩擦都会有高潮
【在 v*********l 的大作中提到】
: 屡败屡战，坚持到底就是胜利！
:
: Merrit
: MERITS
: on
|
m****d
发帖数: 1 | 8 这是把洪波推向开战的地步，接下来就是起义，与左X开战 |
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 9 问题是在hearing上老川提供的证据不足呀。你想要法官作出查表的决定，得先证明有
舞弊。
: 选票蓝区一个个验票调查才服，完全不服LOL
: Merrit
【在 c**s 的大作中提到】
: 选票蓝区一个个验票调查才服，完全不服LOL
:
:
: 川粉这下子该服了吧？
:
: 这个法官可是老川前不久任命的，这次也给了老川团队hearing，ruled on the
: Merrit
:
: ，还有啥complain吗？
:
: and
:
: makes
:
: on
:
|
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 10 那倒不用，德州独立就行。反正地那么大，把移民都赶走，全国洪波都搬去德州。大家
各过各的，老川去德州当总统。这不挺好的吗，干嘛要打仗
: 这是把洪波推向开战的地步，接下来就是起义，与左X开战
【在 m****d 的大作中提到】
: 这是把洪波推向开战的地步，接下来就是起义，与左X开战
|
|
|
m****d
发帖数: 1 | 11 nm，就德州独立吗？要是其它20多个一起独立不行吗？让左X就住在东西海岸，吃鱼虾
，海鲜
: 那倒不用，德州独立就行。反正地那么大，把移民都赶走，全国洪波都搬去德州
。大家
: 各过各的，老川去德州当总统。这不挺好的吗，干嘛要打仗
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: 那倒不用，德州独立就行。反正地那么大，把移民都赶走，全国洪波都搬去德州。大家
: 各过各的，老川去德州当总统。这不挺好的吗，干嘛要打仗
:
:
: 这是把洪波推向开战的地步，接下来就是起义，与左X开战
:
|
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 12 其他州还没有表达独立的意愿，就德州的一个gop黑人大佬表示了要独立。
: nm，就德州独立吗？要是其它20多个一起独立不行吗？让左X就住在东西海岸，
吃鱼虾
: ，海鲜
: 。大家
【在 m****d 的大作中提到】
: nm，就德州独立吗？要是其它20多个一起独立不行吗？让左X就住在东西海岸，吃鱼虾
: ，海鲜
:
:
: 那倒不用，德州独立就行。反正地那么大，把移民都赶走，全国洪波都搬去德州
: 。大家
:
: 各过各的，老川去德州当总统。这不挺好的吗，干嘛要打仗
:
|
n**e
发帖数: 2026 | 13 这一次扇川普的耳光很认真严肃。
the
who
last
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: A federal judge in Milwaukee on Saturday tossed out President Trump’s
: latest effort to overturn the election results in Wisconsin, dismissing the
: case and ruling that it had failed “as a matter of law and fact.”
: In a strongly worded decision, Judge Brett H. Ludwig, a Trump appointee who
: took his post only three months ago, shot down one of the president’s last
: remaining attempts to alter the results of a statewide race.
|
d******i
发帖数: 1064 | 14 川普都不要脸了，耳光只能打在屁股上了
【在 n**e 的大作中提到】
: 这一次扇川普的耳光很认真严肃。
:
: the
: who
: last
|
a****a
发帖数: 3905 | 15 告的都是关于electionadmin上的事情。
基本还是要告得早告，现在告就是laches.
当然早告了大概率no standing，基本就是一个死循环。
election
beating
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: Twitter上法律专家对这个案子意义的评论：
: This case is significant b/c Judge Ludwig considered it ON THE MERITS and
: ruled against Trump.
: Trump has been complaining that courts have been tossing his cases on
: threshold issues like standing.
: But one of his own appointees here gave him a full hearing and still
: dismissed.
: Even more this case echoes the Texas SCOTUS case in many ways. It makes
: similar claims and arguments and asks for similar relief.
: SCOTUS did not consider the Texas on the merits but this case, decided on
|
p********2
发帖数: 1 | 16 什么死循环？早告事情没有发生怎么告？
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】
: 告的都是关于electionadmin上的事情。
: 基本还是要告得早告，现在告就是laches.
: 当然早告了大概率no standing，基本就是一个死循环。
:
: election
: beating
|
a****a
发帖数: 3905 | 17 应当说是悖论。早告了没standing，晚告了laches。
【在 p********2 的大作中提到】
: 什么死循环？早告事情没有发生怎么告？
|
c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 18 票不给看，怎么查证据？doj fbi没调查如何取证
: 问题是在hearing上老川提供的证据不足呀。你想要法官作出查表的决定，得先
证明有
: 舞弊。
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: 其他州还没有表达独立的意愿，就德州的一个gop黑人大佬表示了要独立。
:
:
: nm，就德州独立吗？要是其它20多个一起独立不行吗？让左X就住在东西海岸，
: 吃鱼虾
:
: ，海鲜
:
: 。大家
:
|
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 19 那就别怨法官。拿不出证据法官也没法判
: 票不给看，怎么查证据？doj fbi没调查如何取证
: 证明有
【在 c**s 的大作中提到】
: 票不给看，怎么查证据？doj fbi没调查如何取证
:
:
: 问题是在hearing上老川提供的证据不足呀。你想要法官作出查表的决定，得先
: 证明有
:
: 舞弊。
:
|
p********2
发帖数: 1 | 20 PA高法就是这样搞的啊，选前告了，法官说没有damage告什么告。
选完了告，说选举已经结束了，告什么告。
所以这个是一个荒谬的地方。但是这种官司怎么都告不赢明显违背常识。
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】
: 应当说是悖论。早告了没standing，晚告了laches。
|
B********e
发帖数: 10014 | 21 理解美国司法的确需要一点智力
感到吃力的时候，干点你舒适区里的事情
比如喝杯红酒
【在 p********2 的大作中提到】
: PA高法就是这样搞的啊，选前告了，法官说没有damage告什么告。
: 选完了告，说选举已经结束了，告什么告。
: 所以这个是一个荒谬的地方。但是这种官司怎么都告不赢明显违背常识。
|
c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 22 从来不怨啥，大家开心就好，老川一任也应该满足，至少这么舞弊下台他不甘心，我们
支持他继续
: 那就别怨法官。拿不出证据法官也没法判
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: 那就别怨法官。拿不出证据法官也没法判
:
:
: 票不给看，怎么查证据？doj fbi没调查如何取证
:
: 证明有
:
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