d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 1 作梦等别人都打了，自己就安全了，和作梦让别人都套上口罩自己就安全了一样 |
r******i
发帖数: 1445 | |
h*******g
发帖数: 1 | 3 My family and I are on the vaccination list, will get vaccinated when called
. |
m********s
发帖数: 1 | 4 i had fever with a swollen arm after first dose
then the 2nd dose completely knocked me out for 2 days... high fever, chills
, etc. felt worse than a flu, but it's only 2 days
i think the vaccines are very potent, and my opinion is only high-risk
people should get them because they get the highest cost benefit |
h*******g
发帖数: 1 | 5 Which vaccination did you get? Pfizer?
chills
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: i had fever with a swollen arm after first dose
: then the 2nd dose completely knocked me out for 2 days... high fever, chills
: , etc. felt worse than a flu, but it's only 2 days
: i think the vaccines are very potent, and my opinion is only high-risk
: people should get them because they get the highest cost benefit
|
c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 6 我下周第二针，我们同事第二针，俩男的都撂倒了，女的还好挺着，第二天还能上班。。
有点类似 新冠了，对男的重一些。。
chills
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: i had fever with a swollen arm after first dose
: then the 2nd dose completely knocked me out for 2 days... high fever, chills
: , etc. felt worse than a flu, but it's only 2 days
: i think the vaccines are very potent, and my opinion is only high-risk
: people should get them because they get the highest cost benefit
|
d******a
发帖数: 32122 | 7 我觉得还是等很多人打了，才知道后遗症如何
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 作梦等别人都打了，自己就安全了，和作梦让别人都套上口罩自己就安全了一样
|
z*****y
发帖数: 554 | 8 现在不打的并不是一辈子都不打, 很多只是不想当小白鼠罢了. pfizer dosage和
moderna dosage差别这么大, 一看就知道有人dose都没做好就上了. 加上trial上少有
asian, 把适合高大胖的白黑莫dosage个小个asian打基本肯定overdose, 还不知道长期
能怎么样呢...
再说这变异来变异去的, 以后每年都得打4针covid vac, 来日方长, 着什么急?
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 作梦等别人都打了，自己就安全了，和作梦让别人都套上口罩自己就安全了一样
|
h*******g
发帖数: 1 | 9 Johnson & Johnson vaccine seem to have promising results, only one dosage
too, but for most of the people, can't really choose which one to get. |
m********s
发帖数: 1 | 10 moderna
【在 h*******g 的大作中提到】
: Which vaccination did you get? Pfizer?
:
: chills
|
|
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m********s
发帖数: 1 | 11 mutation -> vaccine
right now there is no solid science to prove/disapprove anything yet
again, high-risk definitely should go get the vaccine right now
low-risk pop imo can wait
【在 z*****y 的大作中提到】
: 现在不打的并不是一辈子都不打, 很多只是不想当小白鼠罢了. pfizer dosage和
: moderna dosage差别这么大, 一看就知道有人dose都没做好就上了. 加上trial上少有
: asian, 把适合高大胖的白黑莫dosage个小个asian打基本肯定overdose, 还不知道长期
: 能怎么样呢...
: 再说这变异来变异去的, 以后每年都得打4针covid vac, 来日方长, 着什么急?
|
c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 12 in term to dosage，我觉得和 运输的 温度有关，不用过分解读。。
要是能等，当然可以等，尤其不是高危人群，50以下 估计 不到 0.3% 的重/死率。。。
【在 z*****y 的大作中提到】
: 现在不打的并不是一辈子都不打, 很多只是不想当小白鼠罢了. pfizer dosage和
: moderna dosage差别这么大, 一看就知道有人dose都没做好就上了. 加上trial上少有
: asian, 把适合高大胖的白黑莫dosage个小个asian打基本肯定overdose, 还不知道长期
: 能怎么样呢...
: 再说这变异来变异去的, 以后每年都得打4针covid vac, 来日方长, 着什么急?
|
c***e
发帖数: 1207 | 13 人家不打，也许是因为相信国际著名千老病毒专家闫力猛。
力猛的名言“若中国不公布改造病毒过程， 疫苗不会有效”
http://news.creaders.net/china/2020/08/10/2254866.html
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 作梦等别人都打了，自己就安全了，和作梦让别人都套上口罩自己就安全了一样
|
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 14 这才是正常人的想法。川粉都爱搞极端。
: 现在不打的并不是一辈子都不打, 很多只是不想当小白鼠罢了. pfizer dosage和
: moderna dosage差别这么大, 一看就知道有人dose都没做好就上了. 加上trial
上少有
: asian, 把适合高大胖的白黑莫dosage个小个asian打基本肯定overdose, 还不知
道长期
: 能怎么样呢...
: 再说这变异来变异去的, 以后每年都得打4针covid vac, 来日方长, 着什么急?
【在 z*****y 的大作中提到】
: 现在不打的并不是一辈子都不打, 很多只是不想当小白鼠罢了. pfizer dosage和
: moderna dosage差别这么大, 一看就知道有人dose都没做好就上了. 加上trial上少有
: asian, 把适合高大胖的白黑莫dosage个小个asian打基本肯定overdose, 还不知道长期
: 能怎么样呢...
: 再说这变异来变异去的, 以后每年都得打4针covid vac, 来日方长, 着什么急?
|
r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 15 can't agree more
everyone older than 55 should take the vaccine when you can.
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: mutation -> vaccine
: right now there is no solid science to prove/disapprove anything yet
: again, high-risk definitely should go get the vaccine right now
: low-risk pop imo can wait
|
i********r
发帖数: 139 | 16 说疫苗very potent肯定说的太早了。
你的症状就是S蛋白和免疫佐剂的毒副作用。至于疫苗能不能引起保护性免疫反应以及
保护性有多强完全是另外一个问题。
chills
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: i had fever with a swollen arm after first dose
: then the 2nd dose completely knocked me out for 2 days... high fever, chills
: , etc. felt worse than a flu, but it's only 2 days
: i think the vaccines are very potent, and my opinion is only high-risk
: people should get them because they get the highest cost benefit
|
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 17 加州这边现在是给一线的和65以上的优先打。我给我父母都报名了，但是到现在也没啥
消息。前几天oc一个site的moderna疫苗出了问题暂停了。我父母不太愿意打，因为觉
得这疫苗出的太快不太靠谱。 |
c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 18 华人有帖子说，在加州，犯人优先排在 老人前面，当然，犯人也有 老的。。。
所以，加州，老人要是要在等等，除非，Biden 干点啥，民主党总统说话，加州能听进
去。。
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: 加州这边现在是给一线的和65以上的优先打。我给我父母都报名了，但是到现在也没啥
: 消息。前几天oc一个site的moderna疫苗出了问题暂停了。我父母不太愿意打，因为觉
: 得这疫苗出的太快不太靠谱。
|
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 19 给犯人先打好啊，监狱里密集，拿他们做小白鼠。
: 华人有帖子说，在加州，犯人优先排在 老人前面，当然，犯人也有 老的。。。
: 所以，加州，老人要是要在等等，除非，Biden 干点啥，民主党总统说话，加州
能听进
: 去。。
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 华人有帖子说，在加州，犯人优先排在 老人前面，当然，犯人也有 老的。。。
: 所以，加州，老人要是要在等等，除非，Biden 干点啥，民主党总统说话，加州能听进
: 去。。
|
c***e
发帖数: 1207 | 20 国际著名千老病毒专家闫力猛的名言：
“若中国不公布改造病毒过程， 疫苗不会有效”
http://news.creaders.net/china/2020/08/10/2254866.html
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】
: 说疫苗very potent肯定说的太早了。
: 你的症状就是S蛋白和免疫佐剂的毒副作用。至于疫苗能不能引起保护性免疫反应以及
: 保护性有多强完全是另外一个问题。
:
: chills
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|
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c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 21 好吧，你心态真好，其实你不用加小白鼠，现在起码 已经好几千万了，我们医院的都
是，不
差加州犯人这几个JB 人！
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: 给犯人先打好啊，监狱里密集，拿他们做小白鼠。
:
:
: 华人有帖子说，在加州，犯人优先排在 老人前面，当然，犯人也有 老的。。。
:
: 所以，加州，老人要是要在等等，除非，Biden 干点啥，民主党总统说话，加州
: 能听进
:
: 去。。
:
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m********s
发帖数: 1 | 22 the funny thing is
90% of the healthcare providers have been vaccinated LOL
if you think you want guinea pigs to test the vaccine first, then you are
totally screwed now, because if the vaccine fails, you won't have any
physicians or nurses to take care of you when you get sick
the traditional "stay behind" mentality does not work in this particular
risk-scenario, unfortunately |
F********r
发帖数: 878 | 23 You are not making sense. "老中口罩党...作梦让别人都套上口罩自己就安全了"?
Since you called them "老中口罩党", they must be wearing mask, then why do
they need to "作梦让别人都套上口罩自己就安全了"? Don't forget, you trumpers
are the ones who did not wear mask but "作梦让别人都套上口罩自己就安全了".
You just happen to be in this group to be the first ones to get vaccinated,
and you act as if you CHOSE to do that. That is not consistent with your
long-term stance of playing down the virus. You just did that to keep your
job, so please don't glorify your vaccination. People here are not fools.
【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 作梦等别人都打了，自己就安全了，和作梦让别人都套上口罩自己就安全了一样
|
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 24 我着急也没用呀，现在是先给老人打。老人自己不想打我也没法。老人说要先看看效果
怎样。一线的大都是年轻人，效果跟老人身上不太一样吧。
: 好吧，你心态真好，其实你不用加小白鼠，现在起码 已经好几千万了，我们医
院的都
: 是，不
: 差加州犯人这几个JB 人！
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 好吧，你心态真好，其实你不用加小白鼠，现在起码 已经好几千万了，我们医院的都
: 是，不
: 差加州犯人这几个JB 人！
|
c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 25 所以说你心态好吗 ！！
接受现实就是好同志。。
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: 我着急也没用呀，现在是先给老人打。老人自己不想打我也没法。老人说要先看看效果
: 怎样。一线的大都是年轻人，效果跟老人身上不太一样吧。
:
:
: 好吧，你心态真好，其实你不用加小白鼠，现在起码 已经好几千万了，我们医
: 院的都
:
: 是，不
:
: 差加州犯人这几个JB 人！
:
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F********r
发帖数: 878 | 26 Now you are saying the virus is a serious problem? Not just a big flu
anymore? Yeah, of course, it is serious, and now you have been vaccinated,
so that makes you brave, and you can feel proud of yourself. And this has
been consistent with your long stance of playing down the virus, right?
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: the funny thing is
: 90% of the healthcare providers have been vaccinated LOL
: if you think you want guinea pigs to test the vaccine first, then you are
: totally screwed now, because if the vaccine fails, you won't have any
: physicians or nurses to take care of you when you get sick
: the traditional "stay behind" mentality does not work in this particular
: risk-scenario, unfortunately
|
c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 27 小六不提 小白鼠，就完美了！
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: the funny thing is
: 90% of the healthcare providers have been vaccinated LOL
: if you think you want guinea pigs to test the vaccine first, then you are
: totally screwed now, because if the vaccine fails, you won't have any
: physicians or nurses to take care of you when you get sick
: the traditional "stay behind" mentality does not work in this particular
: risk-scenario, unfortunately
|
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 28 僵尸片看得多了，对这种急急忙忙出来的疫苗不太放心。lol
: 所以说你心态好吗 ！！
: 接受现实就是好同志。。
【在 c*******e 的大作中提到】
: 小六不提 小白鼠，就完美了！
|
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 29 群免的要求也不是100%， 70%就够了。总得有人在30%的群体里。我们自愿当那30%，愿
赌服输。
: the funny thing is
: 90% of the healthcare providers have been vaccinated LOL
: if you think you want guinea pigs to test the vaccine first, then you
are
: totally screwed now, because if the vaccine fails, you won't have any
: physicians or nurses to take care of you when you get sick
: the traditional "stay behind" mentality does not work in this
particular
: risk-scenario, unfortunately
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: the funny thing is
: 90% of the healthcare providers have been vaccinated LOL
: if you think you want guinea pigs to test the vaccine first, then you are
: totally screwed now, because if the vaccine fails, you won't have any
: physicians or nurses to take care of you when you get sick
: the traditional "stay behind" mentality does not work in this particular
: risk-scenario, unfortunately
|
d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 30 lol, 小六果然是口罩党典型人物
you
any
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: 群免的要求也不是100%， 70%就够了。总得有人在30%的群体里。我们自愿当那30%，愿
: 赌服输。
:
:
: the funny thing is
:
: 90% of the healthcare providers have been vaccinated LOL
:
: if you think you want guinea pigs to test the vaccine first, then you
: are
:
: totally screwed now, because if the vaccine fails, you won't have any
:
: physicians or nurses to take care of you when you get sick
:
: the traditional "stay behind" mentality does not work in this
|
|
|
r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 31 早晚得打。不打疫苗在美国无法避免感染。
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: 加州这边现在是给一线的和65以上的优先打。我给我父母都报名了，但是到现在也没啥
: 消息。前几天oc一个site的moderna疫苗出了问题暂停了。我父母不太愿意打，因为觉
: 得这疫苗出的太快不太靠谱。
|
r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 32 现在好几个研究说可能没有群免。因为有reinfection——再次感染症状变轻，但不能
阻止传染。
https://news.emory.edu/stories/2021/01/coronavirus_endemic_future/index.html
you
any
【在 I****s 的大作中提到】
: 群免的要求也不是100%， 70%就够了。总得有人在30%的群体里。我们自愿当那30%，愿
: 赌服输。
:
:
: the funny thing is
:
: 90% of the healthcare providers have been vaccinated LOL
:
: if you think you want guinea pigs to test the vaccine first, then you
: are
:
: totally screwed now, because if the vaccine fails, you won't have any
:
: physicians or nurses to take care of you when you get sick
:
: the traditional "stay behind" mentality does not work in this
|
c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 33 呼吸道病毒就这德行，看看流感。。
html
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: 现在好几个研究说可能没有群免。因为有reinfection——再次感染症状变轻，但不能
: 阻止传染。
: https://news.emory.edu/stories/2021/01/coronavirus_endemic_future/index.html
:
: you
: any
|
m********s
发帖数: 1 | 34 you gota be kidding me. stop making up lies
i work in healthcare
i only tell you the data and facts as i see them
if you think that's playing down the virus, whatever
i personally do not want to get the vaccine. it has nothing to do with being
brave or not, but i bent under political pressure form VP and went for it
i am young enough to be in very low risk pop. if not because of the VP
nagging me everyday, i would not have gone
covid is only a serious problem for high-risk pop
high-risk pop should go get vaccinated asap
low-risk pop can wait
,
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: Now you are saying the virus is a serious problem? Not just a big flu
: anymore? Yeah, of course, it is serious, and now you have been vaccinated,
: so that makes you brave, and you can feel proud of yourself. And this has
: been consistent with your long stance of playing down the virus, right?
|
C*****h
发帖数: 926 | 35 看来靠免疫（不管是自然群免，还是全民打疫苗），
都无法控制这个病毒了。
现在主攻免疫的研究方向就错了。只能靠莲花清瘟
等缓解症状的药物来减少痛苦了。
html
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: 现在好几个研究说可能没有群免。因为有reinfection——再次感染症状变轻，但不能
: 阻止传染。
: https://news.emory.edu/stories/2021/01/coronavirus_endemic_future/index.html
:
: you
: any
|
F********r
发帖数: 878 | 36 What did I lie? Since you said "the traditional 'stay behind' mentality
does not work in this particular risk-scenario, unfortunately," I was
assuming you encouraging all people to get vaccinated. Was my assumption
wrong?
being
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: you gota be kidding me. stop making up lies
: i work in healthcare
: i only tell you the data and facts as i see them
: if you think that's playing down the virus, whatever
: i personally do not want to get the vaccine. it has nothing to do with being
: brave or not, but i bent under political pressure form VP and went for it
: i am young enough to be in very low risk pop. if not because of the VP
: nagging me everyday, i would not have gone
: covid is only a serious problem for high-risk pop
: high-risk pop should go get vaccinated asap
|
I****s
发帖数: 1167 | 37 只要疫苗能给人带来3-6个月的免疫力，就会有一定效果的。先把传染的基数降下去，
别把医院搞爆了。特效药当然也要同时继续开发。这俩不矛盾。
: 看来靠免疫（不管是自然群免，还是全民打疫苗），
: 都无法控制这个病毒了。
: 现在主攻免疫的研究方向就错了。只能靠莲花清瘟
: 等缓解症状的药物来减少痛苦了。
: html
【在 C*****h 的大作中提到】
: 看来靠免疫（不管是自然群免，还是全民打疫苗），
: 都无法控制这个病毒了。
: 现在主攻免疫的研究方向就错了。只能靠莲花清瘟
: 等缓解症状的药物来减少痛苦了。
:
: html
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