G**h
发帖数: 21 | 1 今天，福奇竟然在ABC的This Week节目上，建议世界最大的民主国家， 学习最大的专
制国家建方舱医院，封城。
从3'20"看起
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmBln-7PjMY | G**h
发帖数: 21 | | d***b
发帖数: 376 | 3 印度的情况谁去都没招了，全面社区感染，没有医疗条件，还是安静趴好等着烧合适些
。。。 | G**h
发帖数: 21 | 4 其实还是有封城的。 德里已经从4-20开始封。 现在又延长到 5-17
【在 d***b 的大作中提到】
: 印度的情况谁去都没招了，全面社区感染，没有医疗条件，还是安静趴好等着烧合适些
: 。。。
| r******i
发帖数: 1445 | | F********r
发帖数: 878 | 6 I believe 方舱医院 is very effective against the spread of covid. Sending
patients with no or mild symptoms home only spread it to the rest of their
families. | r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 7 Why doesn't Fauci suggest US to do so?
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: I believe 方舱医院 is very effective against the spread of covid. Sending
: patients with no or mild symptoms home only spread it to the rest of their
: families.
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 8 Maybe he knew it didn't work in the US. Actually at the beginning, the US,
at least Cal, tried to do it. But quickly the number of infection grew out
of control, and they simply didn't have the manpower and space to maintain
these makeshift hospitals.
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: Why doesn't Fauci suggest US to do so?
| r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 9 How would Fauci know it works in India?
,
out
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: Maybe he knew it didn't work in the US. Actually at the beginning, the US,
: at least Cal, tried to do it. But quickly the number of infection grew out
: of control, and they simply didn't have the manpower and space to maintain
: these makeshift hospitals.
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 10 Just an advice. India can explore and decide if it works there in India.
Fauci is only an advisor, he is not a policy-maker even in the US.
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: How would Fauci know it works in India?
:
: ,
: out
| r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 11 You see, that's the issue.
Why doesn't he "advise" 方舱医院 for US? Why does he know it wouldn't work
in US, but would work in India? Why didn't he advise for US, and let Trump
or Biden to explore and decide?
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: Just an advice. India can explore and decide if it works there in India.
: Fauci is only an advisor, he is not a policy-maker even in the US.
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 12 Maybe he did, maybe he did not. I don't know everything he said, and I am
sure not everything he said got reported. I even did not know him before
the pandemic.
I remember seeing one of Newsom's covid daily briefings. He did it at a gym
(?), where people behind him could be seen busy converting it to a
makeshift hospital.
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: You see, that's the issue.
: Why doesn't he "advise" 方舱医院 for US? Why does he know it wouldn't work
: in US, but would work in India? Why didn't he advise for US, and let Trump
: or Biden to explore and decide?
| r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 13 OK. You are not interested in Fauci. Let's set him aside now.
Do you know the major difference (or if there is any difference) of 中国方舱
医院 and all the "makeshift hospitals" in the US?
gym
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: Maybe he did, maybe he did not. I don't know everything he said, and I am
: sure not everything he said got reported. I even did not know him before
: the pandemic.
: I remember seeing one of Newsom's covid daily briefings. He did it at a gym
: (?), where people behind him could be seen busy converting it to a
: makeshift hospital.
| p*******k
发帖数: 488 | 14 把阿三的脸打肿了，阿三恨死福奇了。。。
不过阿三有脸吗？这个世界唯一把屁股当脸的就是阿三了！ | F********r
发帖数: 878 | 15 I really don't know if the makeshift hospitals in Cal has ever been
operational, so I don't know the answer to your question. However, I think
China's 方舱
医院 are effective in curbing the spread of covid.
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: OK. You are not interested in Fauci. Let's set him aside now.
: Do you know the major difference (or if there is any difference) of 中国方舱
: 医院 and all the "makeshift hospitals" in the US?
:
: gym
| r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 16 I agree with you China's 方舱医院 are effective in curbing the spread of
covid.
This is because:
1. Admission to China's 方舱医院 is mandatory and arranged. If the
government ask you to go, you cannot say no. If the government don't ask you
to go, you cannot go.
2. China's 方舱医院 is only "treating" people with light symptoms. Those
people won't die anyways, but by placing them in 方舱医院, the transmission
is curbed.
The makeshift hospitals in Cal or any other states of US are never meant to
be a location for mandatory quarantine. They are meant to be real hospitals
that treats people with symptoms bad enough to be admitted to hospital.
How bad is bad?
Based on the data of Georgia, 15-30% of hospitalized patient died. If one's
symptom is not bad enough that they have 15-30% chance of dying even with
hospital's care, they will not be admitted to hospitals.
So why don't US deploy China's 方舱医院? I don't know. Maybe Fauci knows?
But he won't tell you why of course.
think
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: I really don't know if the makeshift hospitals in Cal has ever been
: operational, so I don't know the answer to your question. However, I think
: China's 方舱
: 医院 are effective in curbing the spread of covid.
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 17 I thought Cal's makeshift hospitals were intended to serve the same purpose
as China's 方舱医院. It was at the beginning of the pandemic, and at least
here in Cal the hospitals' capacities were far from being reached, so I
automatically assume they were 方舱医院.
I think the arrogance of US, government and general public, made them
reluctant to "follow" China's steps at the beginning of pandemic, masks,
lockdown, and 方舱医院 included. Remember on this board, last Jan and Feb,
that many IDs did not believe it could be a big problem in the US since
people had more space here and the population density in the US was a lot
smaller than that in China?
you
transmission
to
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: I agree with you China's 方舱医院 are effective in curbing the spread of
: covid.
: This is because:
: 1. Admission to China's 方舱医院 is mandatory and arranged. If the
: government ask you to go, you cannot say no. If the government don't ask you
: to go, you cannot go.
: 2. China's 方舱医院 is only "treating" people with light symptoms. Those
: people won't die anyways, but by placing them in 方舱医院, the transmission
: is curbed.
: The makeshift hospitals in Cal or any other states of US are never meant to
| r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 18 Among all pandemic measures, I think masks and 方舱医院 (a.k.a. mandatory
and supervised quarantine of virus carrier) are the most useful tools. I
believe lockdown should only be used at the region where the hospitals are
really about to be overwhelmed, and no longer than 14 days.
Mandatory and supervised quarantine is NEVER realized in the US. No matter
in Trump or Biden administration. Why is that? I think it's because there is
no law that supports a temporary confinement of people on US soil just
because they carry a transmissible disease.
So US needs legislation. Not for this pandemic, but for the next one.
purpose
least
,
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: I thought Cal's makeshift hospitals were intended to serve the same purpose
: as China's 方舱医院. It was at the beginning of the pandemic, and at least
: here in Cal the hospitals' capacities were far from being reached, so I
: automatically assume they were 方舱医院.
: I think the arrogance of US, government and general public, made them
: reluctant to "follow" China's steps at the beginning of pandemic, masks,
: lockdown, and 方舱医院 included. Remember on this board, last Jan and Feb,
: that many IDs did not believe it could be a big problem in the US since
: people had more space here and the population density in the US was a lot
: smaller than that in China?
| r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 19 Remember on this board, last Jan and Feb, that many IDs did not believe it
could be a big problem in the US since people had more space here and the
population density in the US was a lot smaller than that in China?
Yes I remembered. However, CDC under Dr. Nancy Messonier predicted that 40%
of American will be infected, "not if but when". Dr. Messonier is someone I
respect during this pandemic.
purpose
least
,
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: I thought Cal's makeshift hospitals were intended to serve the same purpose
: as China's 方舱医院. It was at the beginning of the pandemic, and at least
: here in Cal the hospitals' capacities were far from being reached, so I
: automatically assume they were 方舱医院.
: I think the arrogance of US, government and general public, made them
: reluctant to "follow" China's steps at the beginning of pandemic, masks,
: lockdown, and 方舱医院 included. Remember on this board, last Jan and Feb,
: that many IDs did not believe it could be a big problem in the US since
: people had more space here and the population density in the US was a lot
: smaller than that in China?
| F********r
发帖数: 878 | 20 Americans love freedom, as long as they are not paying for it with their own
lives or the lives of their loved ones. When unfortunately it is their
turn to pay, they become the minority and insignificant, and their voice
will be unheard. They even don't like their freedom to be halted temporally
, so I don't believe they want a legislature that can potentially halt their
precious freedom indefinitely.
is
【在 r******i 的大作中提到】
: Among all pandemic measures, I think masks and 方舱医院 (a.k.a. mandatory
: and supervised quarantine of virus carrier) are the most useful tools. I
: believe lockdown should only be used at the region where the hospitals are
: really about to be overwhelmed, and no longer than 14 days.
: Mandatory and supervised quarantine is NEVER realized in the US. No matter
: in Trump or Biden administration. Why is that? I think it's because there is
: no law that supports a temporary confinement of people on US soil just
: because they carry a transmissible disease.
: So US needs legislation. Not for this pandemic, but for the next one.
:
| r******i
发帖数: 1445 | 21 So everyone would die must die is the only way out.
own
temporally
their
【在 F********r 的大作中提到】
: Americans love freedom, as long as they are not paying for it with their own
: lives or the lives of their loved ones. When unfortunately it is their
: turn to pay, they become the minority and insignificant, and their voice
: will be unheard. They even don't like their freedom to be halted temporally
: , so I don't believe they want a legislature that can potentially halt their
: precious freedom indefinitely.
:
: is
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