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孙释颜（孙维）的发帖指南以及室友往来电子邮件(转载)
楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:03:00 点击：2341 回复：89
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孙释颜的发帖指南
回帖纲要：
总纲: 须每天逐渐发贴. 尽量不要互相呼应（例外：以大学同班同学身份的可以适
当呼应）。同时应当尽量回应其他人。建议互相加入一个MSN或其他IM.
1． 大学同班同学:发表对维的了解信任支持言论。（须立刻跟贴。可为新ID, 应
持续发贴）―― 征求他们意见。
2． 高中同学:证实维家庭廉洁 (须立刻跟贴，可为新ID: 徐卫新，王妤)，同时证
明其人品和信任。（detail: 维住客厅, 家长和本人都骑车等）
3． 旁观者:分析窃听器。（须立刻跟，可为新ＩＤ）
4． 旁观者:分析维要求测谎. (须立刻跟，须为旧ID. Candidate: Lulu and his
wife.)
5． 旁观者:分析支持各条. (多ID, 多IP)
6． 旁观者角度分析清华拒发毕业证书的动机（旧ID,多ID）
7． 社团人:证实社团当时状况. (须旧ID,最好来自国外)
8． 校友:证实毒品管理不严。(不急，须多人,多ID. Candidate? )
9． 资源委员会熟人:发表爷爷生平及证实逝世时间。 （不急。可为新ID,可持续
发贴）
10． 转贴至MITBBS及其它对此文有转载处。
娘子们注意事项：
１． 有顾虑的最好不用自己家的电脑／ＩＰ．
２． 如果有关键性的事实（和案件相关的）年久失修记不清了的千万要先和我确
认，如果记不清宁可不写，但一定不能自相矛盾！千万千万！
３． 记住：所有我们写在网上的信息朱令家人都会看到。所以不要给朱家提供额
外的信息，如咱们现在的生活、工作情况、联系方式等等，不必要信息不要提。
４． 长篇大论也行，逐条发也可以。不过长篇大论难度较大，所以重要的要点还
是建议逐条发帖。
５． 估计最热烈的时间应该是明天后的一周内，有条件的娘子最好能在这一周内
偶尔关注，做必要的回复。
６． 如果有人明显的胡搅蛮缠，可以不用理他。
７． 如果万一将来有记者要求采访，千万不要被记者的花言巧语迷惑，至少现在
看起来最好的办法是拒绝。也许Ｎ年后会不同，只能到时再议了：）
以大学同班女生身份可以说明的情况：
Below are just the points I thought of, exact wording are up to you ?
1） 看见网上有些人毫无依据胡编乱造，甚至人身攻击，十分生气。
2） 以前也曾想替孙维说话辩解，都被她劝阻。这次孙维忍无可忍，自己站出来声
明。我们都很支持她。
3） 证明孙维根本不是这样的人，不可能做这样的事。
4） 孙维她们宿舍非常和睦友好，从未有过任何矛盾。所有舍友人都很好，朱令中
毒不可能和她们宿舍有任何关系。
5） 朱令社交活动很多，除了社团活动，还有很少在宿舍，也很少参加班里活动。
6） 孙维家庭根本不是大家想象中的“高干家庭”，她生活朴实，上学从来都是骑
自行车，学期开始和结束时也不例外。当时班上一些外地同学寒暑假都有家里派小车接
送，孙维却从来都是大包小包自己驮。
7） 希望大家不要轻信网上的谣言，冷静理智，不要被人利用。
8） 帮助朱令、为朱令募捐是好事，但没必要为了增添效果胡编乱造编造
9） 。。。。。
我准备上刑场的时间：12.29日晚10:30, 大家最好在10：00左右上线，在msn上报
到：）
msn
Sunwei: s********[email protected]；13801338805；63274465
Xiefeiyu: x******[email protected]
Jinya: j*******[email protected]
belle: g******[email protected]
hanlin: h*******[email protected]
wangqi: a********[email protected]
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:04:47
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高菲的修改意见
娘子，
看了几遍你的声明，觉得你写得挺好的，条理清晰，有凭有据。这么多年来，我们
在你面前几乎从来不提这件事，潜意识是想淡忘，更怕伤害到你，看过你写的这些，才
知道我们能做得简直就是杯水车薪。真得非常非常佩服你，经历过了这些还是那个开朗
乐观、心态积极的女孩。
我想了想，其实内容并不是最重要的，你的声明写得再完美，别有居心的人仍然会
鸡蛋里挑骨头。而对于那些有良知有头脑的人，你的这篇声明足以让他们了解事实真相
。我想这也是你发表这份声明的目的所在吧。
好了，接下来谈谈我的一些想法供你参考吧（真有点鸡蛋里挑骨头的感觉，寒）。
下面这一段感觉有点乱，是不是可以写得更有条理，重点更突出一些，象最后一句
话好像有点跑题了。
最重要的是学校对于有毒试剂根本没有严格管理，药品不管有毒没毒, 桌上架上随
便放，铊溶液和其他有毒试剂在桌上一放就是几年。我帮老师做的实验并不是研究铊的
，实验中曾经使用过的铊溶液也是我进实验室以前别人配好了放在桌上的，实验室也不
锁门。很多同学下实验室帮老师作实验，实验室不光对化学系学生开放,外系学生上实
验课或来来往往都可以。做试验的时候，尤其是业余时间，同学们可以在各个试验室间
串来串去，互借仪器药品也是常有的事。尽管大部分同学在实验室是认真做实验的，但
也有人在实验室串门聊天上机玩游戏甚至约会。
我也上网搜了一下相关的文章，觉得第五点关于所谓领导人和公安对我的包庇好像
在网上没有提到，是不是换个题目更好些，比如关于政治干预之类？或者只是我看的文
章里没有提到？从网上的文章看，似乎并没有提到公安包庇，而只是公安受到上级领导
干预？
另外一个小问题，这60多万人里到底有多少人屈死，有多少人没有能等到1992年平
反的一天，永远也不会有人知道。是1992年这么晚吗？原谅我对历史的无知。
最后，还想说一下，你一定做好了发表这个声明的准备了，对吗？因为对于网络的
反应，无论我们谁也没有十足的把握。希望你面对任何情况都坚强依旧，相信人性善良
的一面。无论如何，我们永远都会支持你，永远是你的好姐妹！
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:06:45
http://bbs.tianya.cn/post-free-446431-1.shtml “孙维声明”为自己辩解的内容，供大家参考，此处就不复制粘贴了
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:08:30
通信之三
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sorry I haven't checked my home emails for days. I
> was
> back to the hectic life at work, had to work
> overtime
> on Friday. Well, the vacation is over, indeed.
>
> Anyway, Gang and I will do some more literature
> search, and hopefully come up with something useful.
>
> Just now, Gang is talking with someone we don't know
> on the phone. looks like the situation is really bad
> now, they dig out everything about us, they know our
> home phone number, address, where we work, even know
> we came back to US on Jan. 9 (Belle doesn't even
> know
> that!). what worries me now is that wangqi and jinya
> won't be hidden for long. Anyway, we all need to be
> prepared for the worst.
>
> Sun xiaozhu, did you post another statement on the
> internet around Jan. 8? are you solicting the
> engagement of police system? I need to know what
> your
> position is. Could you forward that statement to me
> and Gang?
>
> Talk to you later. I may need to give you a call
> some
> time. should I still use your parents' number?
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> > Hanlin,
> > I just found today on Sina, in Wu Hong fei's blog,
> > she
> > reported Zhu's case, and in the reply, i find
> > somebody
> > pretending to be Xue Gang as well.
> >
> > 回复 网易网友(222.32.112.*):
> >
>
清华物化2班的的朱令的同学们，你们真的就都是些自私自利见利忘义的小人？就
没有一个
> >
>
象贝志成那样敢于说话吗？这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！
这是清
> >
>
华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀
！这是
> >
>
清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！！！！！清华的同学门，你们还
有良心
> > 吗，不做噩梦吗？？？？
> >
> >
>
我是物化2班的团支书，我真的不忍心看到有关朱朱的所有东西，这些年来我一直
生活在自责于内疚之中，我不知道我该怎么做，其实这件事要真的查出真相一点都不难
，国务院督办！我能说的就是当年朱朱第二次中毒孙维被传的时候，院领导和系部召开
了一次很秘密的会议，我是唯一一个参加会议的在校学生，也许他们知道通知我开会是
个很大的错误，当中讲了一会儿的时候系主任叫我回去了，但我在我所在场的18分钟内
，我已经知道内容大概了，我的任务是事件保密和按护全班同学，不准单独核查和不准
猜测议论，在会议中提到是孙主席指示的，而且有关方面在为维维准备出国手续，后来
我知道是孙浮林。
> >
> >
> >
>
到这里大家心理也很清楚，这件事如果中央不出面的话，在中国目前这个体制里，
朱朱事件只有沉冤！！！光凭一个贝志诚是不够的。
> >
> >
>
这些年我没有站出来，我有我的苦衷，包括我们2班所有同学。我们经常会收到拿
我们自己性命和家人性命以及工作等等相关的威胁！株连九族大家或许只在电视上见过
，可这些随时可以发生在我们2班同学身上。
> >
> >
>
我希望中央能真的重视这个案件，还朱朱一个公道。就是高院和高检都没办法的，
只有中央！！！
> >
> >
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:09:46
> > So you couple are both used :-P
> >
> > Kidding, I think now the situation is really very
> > bad.
> > People are much worse than I thought. But in stead
> > of
> > getting angry, like couple of weeks ago, I feel
> > amused, strange hum? These people are too dirty
> for
> > me
> > to be angry with them :)
> >
> > So girls, i think we don't need further clarify
> > things
> > on internet, unless something really important
> > pop-up
> > -- I doubt though. Anyway, my family is
> monitering.
> > So let's live our normal life.
> > If for something I need help, i will shout :-)
> >
> > So basically, the help I needed from you all:
> > 1. Paper related: Ya and Hanlin couple -- "tasks"
> > already sent in another mail :-P
> >
> > 2. the supporting letter I previously sent out --
> > less
> > urgent than above paper, so take your time :-)
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:08:48 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya"
, "Qi Wang"
CC: f*******[email protected]
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:09:38 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Fei Gao" , "Hanlin Li" ,
"Qi Wang" , s********[email protected]
You know what? This morning my professor, in
surprise, showed me an anonymous email saying I am a
suspect of a poisoning case and asking for my contact
address. (email address is a newly registered "zhu
guan" and the g******[email protected], guess should be 朱关
and 关心朱令).
I guess this should be from a person who know I am the
roommate. The good point is they don't know I am
still in the same lab (since the lab's homepage
doesn't include my name), or they may be more crazy to
do something. My professor of course thinks it's
ridiculous and trusts me, dont worry.
Things are getting so messy, I also read a guy
pretending to be qizi, while giving the Ph.D thesis
title of that male wangqi's to prove he/she is real
wangqi. Faint to death.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:11:24
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> Don't feel bad, I was digged out mainly because of
> Gang, as the wife of Zhi1 Shu1. And like you said,
> it
> made me feel much safer than you guys because I am
> in
> US, they can't do much about me. If there were
> anything outrageous happened, I could seek law
> enforcement. Looks like now they think WQ and I live
> in the same room with you, so yazi may be safe for a
> while. It was our careless mistake that we didn't
> change our phone number after we move to the current
> address. We thought it would be easier for the
> people
> we knew to keep in touch with us. Well, guess what!
> Anyway, I have a caller id at home, so I can filter
> calls and won't take unrecognized calls.
>
> FYI, here is my contact information:
>
> Home phone: (860) 437-7804
> Cell: (860) 235-0671
> Gang's cell: (860) 912-5392
>
> During my working hours (your night time), you may
> want to send emails to my pfizer email:
> h*******[email protected], so I can get it instantly. I
> don't check my personal email that often at work.
>
> TAKE CARE,
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:25:06 -0800 (PST)
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, "Qi Wang"
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:12:03
Hanlin
So so so sorry to make you all famous! :-( Be really
careful, those people can do anything. Digging out the
info is 1st step, next they may do things more mean.
Like Jinya's boss got the anonymos letter saying she
was the suspect! You & Gang need to be very careful,
especially you, as somebody think you were the
roommate. Maybe you want to inform your boss ahead?
If he/she knows about cultural revolution, it's easier
for them to understand, like Ya's boss. Anyway, you
decide yourself, but just get prepared...
Don't be chou4 mei3 about the comment of being "Liang4
li4" :-P
They won't stop doing mean things simply because you
are "Liang4 Li4".
BTW, maybe you want to share with us your "liang li"
picture in high-school? I haven't seen it before :-)
I also remembered I saw somewhere people found out the
amount of Gang's denate to ZhuLing and people are
spreading virus words, saying it's too little etc. I
was sooo furious! How ugly people are!! Recently I'm
always surprised about this topic :(
Back to your question, according to media, it's
lethal, I mean dose in ZL's blood.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:14:56
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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To: "Hanlin Li" , "Fei Gao"
>, "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang" , "sun wei" <
s********[email protected]>
Oh, yes? Somebody digged out my photo from my lab's
homepage? I am sure it was removed last year after
the previous scholarship ended. So somebody saved the
old page even that early? I am somewhat shocked. En,
anyway, though I am sure they won't saying me "liang4
li4", don't say me "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4" like poor
sun niangzi, :)).
About the format of list of my hit references, the
format I saved can't be open in ur office? If you
mean the 200 papers' (the first 10 pages of my
searching hits) info., I am attaching it here the txt
format file, though many of them are not very useful.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:15:17
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
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> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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>, "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang" , "sun wei" <
s********[email protected]>
hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
of digging out others' privacy. I found they deduced
me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except my
publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
read.
by the way, I saw:
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:16:16
So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really hope
so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
something.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
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> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
Subject: Re: BTW, pls include xxx for this discussion
To: "Jin Ya"
CC: "Hanlin Li" , "Hanlin Li" , "
sun wei" , "Qi Wang"
From: r******[email protected] View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:39:51 +0800
Dear meizi,
I have not noticed what you wrote in the following e-mail. I just
noticed
tianya has banned this topic. It made me happy because some id is
really
mean and the discussion is absolutely bullshit and nonsense.
These days I am a little busy so not to talk with you by msn, sorry for
it.
Also sorry for niangzi that I didn't help in looking through the
documents.
:(
Talk to you later.
TAKE CARE, PIGLETS!
Gao
Jin Ya
com>
To
Hanlin Li ,
Fei
01/20/2006 11:55 Gao ,
AM Hanlin Li , Qi
Wang , sun
wei
cc
Subject
Re: BTW, pls include xxx for
this
discussion
hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
of digging out others' privacy. I found they deduced
me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except my
publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
read.
by the way, I saw:
『天涯杂谈』 暂停“朱令铊中毒事件”讨论的通知
作者：webmaster 提交日期：2006-1-19 12:06:00
为有利于事件的顺利解决，有关“朱令铊中毒事件”话
题暂停讨论，敬请各位网友配合。
特此通知
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:17:10
So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really hope
so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
something.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
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马克.
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To: "Jin Ya" , "Hanlin Li" , "
Fei Gao" , "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
It's a surprise to see Jin Niangzi have actually
published so many papers!! :-) Surprise surprise, I
thought she only spend the time playing around in
Tsinghua :-D
BTW, Niangzi, your picture from lab is quite good
looking :-) Absolutely not "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4"
like me :"(
Yesterday I still saw a lot of posts on Tianya, and
people are again posting my previous work and my
parents home etc. To be frank I don't know why Tianya
suddenly stopped. I don't think it's police, cos in
Sina and many other sites it's still very hot. Why
they only stop Tianya then? If, IF, it's really Gong
An, want to carm down this thing, they again proved
themselves to be stupid, only find Tianya and ignored
other sites? As stupid as before when they are
investigating Zhu Ling's case!
Anyway, TAKE CARE all!
Wei
--- Jin Ya wrote:
> hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
> of digging out others' privacy. I found they
> deduced
> me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
> http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except
> my
> publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
> wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
> read.
>
> by the way, I saw:
>
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:25:33
> So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really
> hope
> so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
> something.
>
> --- Hanlin Li wrote:
>
> > Sun Xiaozhu,
> >
> > I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > from
> > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > references
> > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > couple of papers of interest through our
> > inter-library
> > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > cited
> > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> in
> > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> >
> > Yazi,
> >
> > The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> > can
> > only open them at home (which doesn't help much).
> I
> > need to have the list of your hit references (was
> it
> > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> > work
> > and do searches.
> >
> > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> am
> > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> > search and find my current home address, my
> pictures
> > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> title,
> > and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> bright
> > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> girl,
> > as
> > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > picture
> > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > even
> > know where it is. :-)
> >
> > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> now
> > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep
> me
> > posted for anything new.
> >
> > Take care, all piglets.
> >
> > Hanlin
> >
> > --- Yes No wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > > protection around
> > > http://mail.yahoo.com
> > >
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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:18:49 -0800 (PST)
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To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang" <
[email protected]>, "sun wei"
The topic is still hot in sina and other websites ?
fuuuuuuuuu, disappointed. I thought a big action will
be made by our police uncles, :(, seems they are
really nuts.
Thanks for comforting~~~, belle and niangzi, but
really, ignore those stupid publications, every
chinese papers I wrote was rubbish, :P (wang xiaozhu
will understand immediately :)) )
You take care, too! Have a good weekend!
--- r******[email protected] wrote:
> I have looked through that article just now and
> agree with Sun xiaozhu.
> Hehe, the picture looks nice.
>
> Actually, the information they digged out let me
> know you are so excellent!
> Cheers! :)
>
> TAKE CARE, ALL!
>
> Gao
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes No
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>
>
> .com>
> To
> Jin Ya
> ,
> 01/20/2006 02:20 Hanlin Li
> , Fei
> PM Gao
> ,
> Hanlin Li
> , Qi
> Wang
>
>
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
> Re: BTW, pls
> include xxx for this
> discussion
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's a surprise to see Jin Niangzi have actually
> published so many papers!! :-) Surprise surprise, I
> thought she only spend the time playing around in
> Tsinghua :-D
>
> BTW, Niangzi, your picture from lab is quite good
> looking :-) Absolutely not "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4"
> like me :"(
>
> Yesterday I still saw a lot of posts on Tianya, and
> people are again posting my previous work and my
> parents home etc. To be frank I don't know why
> Tianya
> suddenly stopped. I don't think it's police, cos in
> Sina and many other sites it's still very hot. Why
> they only stop Tianya then? If, IF, it's really Gong
> An, want to carm down this thing, they again proved
> themselves to be stupid, only find Tianya and
> ignored
> other sites? As stupid as before when they are
> investigating Zhu Ling's case!
>
> Anyway, TAKE CARE all!
>
> Wei
>
> --- Jin Ya wrote:
>
> > hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really
> "capable"
> > of digging out others' privacy. I found they
> > deduced
> > me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable,
> :)
> > http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635
> (except
> > my
> > publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
> > wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when
> u
> > read.
> >
> > by the way, I saw:
> >
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:26:59
> > So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really
> > hope
> > so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
> > something.
> >
> > --- Hanlin Li wrote:
> >
> > > Sun Xiaozhu,
> > >
> > > I've searched a different database
> (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > > from
> > > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > > references
> > > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > > couple of papers of interest through our
> > > inter-library
> > > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > > cited
> > > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored
> for
> > > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> > in
> > > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure
> out
> > > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> > >
> > > Yazi,
> > >
> > > The attachements you sent in your earlier email,
> I
> > > can
> > > only open them at home (which doesn't help
> much).
> > I
> > > need to have the list of your hit references
> (was
> > it
> > > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them
> at
> > > work
> > > and do searches.
> > >
> > > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> > am
> > > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > > shocked at their "capability", they did a
> reverse
> > > search and find my current home address, my
> > pictures
> > > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> > title,
> > > and even attached a satillite map of my house
> from
> > > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> > bright
> > > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as
> the
> > > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah?
> So,
> > > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> > girl,
> > > as
> > > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > > picture
> > > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > > even
> > > know where it is. :-)
> > >
> > > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> > now
> > > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway,
> keep
> > me
> > > posted for anything new.
> > >
> > > Take care, all piglets.
> > >
> > > Hanlin
> > >
> > > --- Yes No wrote:
> > >
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya"
, "Qi Wang"
CC: f*******[email protected]
Hanlin,
I VERY VERY much agree with you: I always talk with
xxx, how ugly human nature can be when they don't need
to be responsible!
I also talked with my brother about what they did to
you, you know what my brother said? He was very angry
and said you should claim back the money, including
the interest! :-P
I fully understand your feeling -- I also feel so
discusting when read it. I have to say you are very
nice and still think it's not a good idea, if I were
you, i will never donate anymore. It's not about the
money at all, it's the feeling. I just hate my
kindness being USED by ugly people!
Hanlin
One thing I think we should do now is, I also told
other piglets, to collect materials and "evidence"
that these people are mad, and they are doing crazy
things just to po4 hai4 us. I don't know exactly how
are we going to use the material yet, but it doesn't
harm to collect it.
So could you pls collect these virus message / people/
ID, save the content so that it's readable offline
even if they delete it one day, or screenshot as well.
For those bad things, i.e., hurting your private
life/privacy, work, curse, virus words, so something
like saying we are he2 mou2 murdering etc.
Collect them now.
One good side benifit is that if you think of this
purpose, you no longer get angry when reading those
posts :-) It works on me quite well :)
Again, take care!
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:27:57
> Agree with all, that Yazi's does look great in the
> picture, free advertisement! and I wouldn't be
> surprised that they find out Yazi is still
> available.
> :-), so...., Yazi, be prepared to get more love
> letters from secret admirers. :-)))
>
> The two pictures of mine were actully my recent
> pictures (2-3 years ago), which I posted onto my
> high-school alumni webpage, where the inside and
> outside of my house were shown. I know they are
> attacking us because they saw the house, that we
> work
> in a pretigeous pharm., they even estimated our
> annual
> income, and saying we were donating too little. but
> they didn't know we are actually donating annually
> through our company's donation program so the fund
> org. can get 100% match from Pfizer. But guess what,
> I
> got so disgusted about the discussion, it actually
> made me think that I probably won't donate any more
> in
> the future. I know it is bad thinking, but I am just
> so sick of it. What right do they have to finger
> point
> us! Forget it!!!
>
> I think it would be hard for them to find out who my
> boss is, because my boss just keeps changing. :-) I
> am
> going to meet my 5th boss (in 4 years) in the next
> month or so. Hopefully, they won't find HR, that's
> when I may get into trouble. Anyway, I will be
> prepared. These days, my Chinese colleagues keep
> asking me, why they are aftering us, what are they
> up
> to? That's exactly the thing I couldn't understand,
> what are they thinking when they do these mean
> things,
> just for fun? or they really believe they are
> someone,
> while in reality they are nobody? People! Ugly
> people!
>
> You all take care!
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
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作者：moyanzibing 来自：手机版 时间：2013-04-20 00:28:21
这是水军发帖指南么
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:29:04
> > Hanlin
> > So so so sorry to make you all famous! :-( Be
> really
> > careful, those people can do anything. Digging out
> > the
> > info is 1st step, next they may do things more
> mean.
> > Like Jinya's boss got the anonymos letter saying
> she
> > was the suspect! You & Gang need to be very
> careful,
> > especially you, as somebody think you were the
> > roommate. Maybe you want to inform your boss
> ahead?
> > If he/she knows about cultural revolution, it's
> > easier
> > for them to understand, like Ya's boss. Anyway,
> you
> > decide yourself, but just get prepared...
> >
> > Don't be chou4 mei3 about the comment of being
> > "Liang4
> > li4" :-P
> > They won't stop doing mean things simply because
> you
> > are "Liang4 Li4".
> > BTW, maybe you want to share with us your "liang
> li"
> > picture in high-school? I haven't seen it before
> :-)
> > I also remembered I saw somewhere people found out
> > the
> > amount of Gang's denate to ZhuLing and people are
> > spreading virus words, saying it's too little etc.
> I
> > was sooo furious! How ugly people are!! Recently
> I'm
> > always surprised about this topic :(
> >
> > Back to your question, according to media, it's
> > lethal, I mean dose in ZL's blood.
> >
> >
> >
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:31:35
> > --- Hanlin Li wrote:
> >
> > > Sun Xiaozhu,
> > >
> > > I've searched a different database
> (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > > from
> > > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > > references
> > > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > > couple of papers of interest through our
> > > inter-library
> > > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > > cited
> > > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored
> for
> > > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> > in
> > > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure
> out
> > > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> > >
> > > Yazi,
> > >
> > > The attachements you sent in your earlier email,
> I
> > > can
> > > only open them at home (which doesn't help
> much).
> > I
> > > need to have the list of your hit references
> (was
> > it
> > > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them
> at
> > > work
> > > and do searches.
> > >
> > > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> > am
> > > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > > shocked at their "capability", they did a
> reverse
> > > search and find my current home address, my
> > pictures
> > > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> > title,
> > > and even attached a satillite map of my house
> from
> > > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> > bright
> > > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as
> the
> > > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah?
> So,
> > > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> > girl,
> > > as
> > > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > > picture
> > > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > > even
> > > know where it is. :-)
> > >
> > > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> > now
> > > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway,
> keep
> > me
> > > posted for anything new.
> > >
> > > Take care, all piglets.
> > >
> > > Hanlin
> > >
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> sorry, wrong typing, it was "thethruth" to open it
>
> Merry Xmas!
>
>
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Dear Niangzi
Your comment is right!
1. For this point, I thought and thought, read and
read, have the same feeling as you do, so already
deleted from the doc. Although it's true, it will just
make it worse if it's from my mouth :(
2.Good point. And I decided to simplify this part
greatly to avoid people thinking negatively.
3.Simpson?! Niangzi, you have been abroad for toooooo
long! I mean 佘祥林！He was sentensed to death 11
years ago, later changed to Si3 Huan3, cos he was
suspected to have killed his wife. But his wife just
came back home 11 years later!
Have a nice day!
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作者：opehlia 时间：2013-04-20 00:32:37
技术贴啊……不过这些资料都已经过去很久了，而且，我去，写个回帖纲领出来还
，呵呵，生怕别人不知道她们是串通一气的么？
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:32:41
> 娘子，
>
> 我看过第二版了，再提出几点意见，还是权作参考。
>
>
1。“...朱令也是校社团的积极分子。社团和团委的骨干成员有单独的宿舍楼，不
分院系、年级，既没有熄灯和用电限制也不锁楼门，是大家聚会、活动的中心。朱令经
常回宿舍很晚。她第一次中毒后返校期间仍然每天中午去社团或团委煎药，据她自己说
也有时是别人提前帮她煎好了的。”这一段如果写得再圆滑一点就好了，象加个“举个
例子来说”，“比如说”这样的词句。如果我是不知情的人，很可能会觉得你在暗示这
个情况和中毒有密切关系，如果不是你的本意的话，可能会有一些反面作用。看你的考
虑。
>
>
2。你爷爷那一段，我觉得挺好的。不过能不能稍微表达一下你爷爷出身贫寒，自
己奋斗成材的意思，反正就是别让人觉得你们家是那种大的“世家”，有很多人罩着的
那种。
>
>
3。“前不久的ｘｘｘ杀妻案为什么会被判刑？就是因为“死者”家属有怀疑，而
且又找到了一具女尸，看似证据确凿，而ｘｘｘ又拿不出证据证明自己无罪。其实这也
是许多未破案件时一些被怀疑人遇到的共同问题。”看到这一段我是想到了你说的应该
是"Simpson"的案子，但我的印象不深，google以后才了解了详情和最后判决，但其他
人会不会也能立刻想到？不过也许国内新闻曾广泛报道过？另外，我google后的感觉是
这个案子实在太复杂了，所以好多人好像还是对Simpson到底杀妻没有心存疑虑。再让
你家里人帮你参谋参谋，别起到了反作用。
>
>
我觉得你写得挺好的，这些意见都是我尽量站在不知情人的角度上吹毛求疵的结果
:)。我和其他小猪的担心一样，写得再好，也会有人故意或不故意地曲解。而且这两天
我在想，如果是朱家刻意地散布这些谣言，可能就是为了把你逼出来，现在也算达到了
目的了,sigh。不过也没法再躲了。但你一定要做好心理准备，要我们帮忙的尽管说，
另外怎么发表，从什么渠道，多少网站开始，还有对可能发生情况的应对（来自朱家，
公安什么的），也要做好准备。虽然我知道你家里人和xxx肯定已经帮你想到了，还是
忍不住多个嘴:P.
>
> 好了，正经事说完了，祝各个小猪圣诞快乐，新年好！
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
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> > sorry, wrong typing, it was "thethruth" to open it
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> > Merry Xmas!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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the same password as usual.
happy new year!
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Here you go.
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this is what I was working on when Hanlin called.
I will reply to Bei's statement first.
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sorry, my network is so slow....
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Extracted points.
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Help to check and look if anything I need missed.
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my comment for your reference.
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> --- P2 wrote:
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I added some "meat" :)
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I added some "meat" :)
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作者：子游2011 时间：2013-04-20 00:35:20
贱人 murder
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:35:35
Subject: Re: I am back to reality
To: "Hanlin Li"
CC: "Jin Ya" , "Yes No" , "Qi
Wang"
From: r******[email protected] View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:25:03 +0800
So early?
I heard qizi said you will go back on Jan. 16th so, I am thinking of
calling you this weekend. Sigh! Am I mis-understand?
Recently, my colleagues asked me serveral times about Zhuling. It looks
the
influence of article "Tian Du" is far enough. I didn't tell them I am
her
classmate. As the looker-on, they are only curious, I think. And I
don't
want to make more curiosity. :(
Gao
Hanlin Li
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Gao
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:37:17
Dear piglets,
I am back to US now, again, I am having post-vacation
trauma. No matter how long I stayed at home, it always
seems too short.
Qizi, I really miss you. I had so much fun hanging out
with you guys. Thank you for the gift, it was really
nice of you. And tell P4 I missed him too. hahaha...
:-)
Sun Xiaozhu, I am really sorry that I didn't really
keep up with the progress on internet after I got to
Shanghai. I felt really guilty for having fun while
you were suffering. So what's new now? any
instructions for what's next? Is your life easier
after the post?
Are you gals still MSN everyday?
Hanlin
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:16:55 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya"
, "Qi Wang"
Girls
I don't know how to express my feeling except by
repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good at
expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
ironic :-P
Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word :-D
-- you are still the same you :-P
And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my life
-- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
live better and enjoy more about life!
An update to you all about current situation:
Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new papers
and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
page.
I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV soon.
BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but maybe
they will quote my dad's word saying that he rejected
to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm prepared
either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
And I do need your support to clarify something.
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:37:38
1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
daughter and 挑拨朱和另一个舍友的关系, don't know who
though.
So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和朱的关系。of cause she
can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it should
be from both sides.
2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
statement) that 我造谣说朱社交广泛 while in fact she
was not.
I need also the official confirmation from you all,
and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
broad social activities, and often doesn't particiapte
class activities.
belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 晚自习, she is
normally not there.
if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
come back,can say it, but if you don't remember, just
don't say.
Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the confirm
from your side that she was always back very late, up
to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in the
past we never tell something like this. but now her
mother is pushing for this and I simply have no choice
at all :-(
Could you?
3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
cup" Bei described was true!
So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
with your real name.
And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you said
sth for me and again them.
So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
absolutely if you can't do it :-)
Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
piglets' hbs & bf ：）
Wei
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:38:07
Subject: Re: update
To: "Yes No"
CC: "Jin Ya" , "Hanlin Li" , "
Qi Wang"
From: r******[email protected] View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:09:06 +0800
Dear niangzi,
And I also notice there is a person who said he/she is your
neighborhood
and write out your parents' address.
Busy day. Write to you later.
Gao
Yes No
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:38:39
Girls
I don't know how to express my feeling except by
repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good at
expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
ironic :-P
Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word :-D
-- you are still the same you :-P
And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my life
-- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
live better and enjoy more about life!
An update to you all about current situation:
Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new papers
and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
page.
I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV soon.
BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but maybe
they will quote my dad's word saying that he rejected
to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm prepared
either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
And I do need your support to clarify something.
1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
daughter and 挑拨朱和另一个舍友的关系, don't know who
though.
So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和朱的关系。of cause she
can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it should
be from both sides.
2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
statement) that 我造谣说朱社交广泛 while in fact she
was not.
I need also the official confirmation from you all,
and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
broad social activities, and often doesn't particiapte
class activities.
belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 晚自习, she is
normally not there.
if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
come back,can say it, but if you don't remember, just
don't say.
Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the confirm
from your side that she was always back very late, up
to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in the
past we never tell something like this. but now her
mother is pushing for this and I simply have no choice
at all :-(
Could you?
3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
cup" Bei described was true!
So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
with your real name.
And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you said
sth for me and again them.
So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
absolutely if you can't do it :-)
Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
piglets' hbs & bf ：）
Wei
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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:53:11 -0800 (PST)
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, "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
Sorry, niangzi, I will speak in a frank way here, hope
you don't mind: As I told xxx yesterday, I am
willing to help, for sure. My concern is that you
will speak to media first? I am somewhat afraid it
will finally develop to a mouth fighting (da3 zui3
zhang4), like on Tianya. If to Gong-an, I have no
problem to give my statement; but to media, I suggest
you have a more thorough consideration, it may finally
be a bigger and wider mess and be no real help for
solving the problem. Of course, niangzi, if finally
no way but only fighting through media, I will stand
out to clarify those point.
Best regards,
Jin
PS: Hanlin's dream is also my dream~~~a very
handsome..., but it is just a dream, have to admit :P.
Hanlin, I guess you bought many good stuff in
Shanghai? How about the foods there?
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Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:21:54 -0800 (PST)
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"Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
Girls,
I finally find out that now there is no sense to spend
further time on internet cos there are sooooooo many
virius people there. Our words are already out, normal
people will take it, and that’s what we expect. For
the mad dogs, just let them bark.
My family will follow the internet. If they find out
really some critical things and need your help, I will
let you know, either wise, no need to pay attention on
it.
One thing I really need your help urgently is the Tl
papers. As I’m busy with the letters to police, not
much time. So could you pls help with the papers. ：（
你们有空帮着看看文献并翻译吗？
不用全翻！我们感兴趣的只是：有没有可能是一次中毒。
估计很少有2次中毒的case，所以如果是一次中毒的文章，只需要看一下中毒后如
果没有及时（2-3个月）治疗的症状，如果提前治疗了的文章就可以仍一边根本不用看
了。
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:41:50
如果看到2-3个月没有治疗的case，不论是否支持我们希望的结论，都请把相关时
间—症状部分翻译一下，并翻译一下患者的年龄、性别、体质/身体状况等。
金亚帮着查了一堆文献，xxx分发一下，能分头处理一下吗？俺俩忙晕了，还有好
多文章要写：（
many thanks!
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To: "Jin Ya" , "Fei Gao" ,
"Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
刚在天涯上看见“李含琳”发的帖子"请大家放过薛刚，谢谢！"
It says:
“这个世界上不会有无缘无故的爱，也不会有无缘无故的恨。他说过什么，做过什
么，一定都是有原因的；但是有一点，他不是坏人，我也不是，我们都没有坏心，请大
家放过他，放过我们一家。
11年过去了，该消失的早已消失，网络上再声势浩大，也不过是虚拟的东西，为什
么还要紧紧咬住不放呢？如果真的有人下毒，这些年来她必定也不好过，为什么一定要
掀什么来呢？
我不知道继续下去会有什么结果。我只想安安静静地做一个普通的人。请大家放过
我们吧，谢谢！”
He/she first pretent to look like real hanlin, and the
next step, I guess, is to say something really bad.
here it already started to imply that if I am the
murderer, i must have already suffered these years, so
let me go. And in the future, all "your" words or
words from classmates could be interpretated as they
are helping me to escape from the punishment even if i
am the murderer, cos I have already suffered a lot. SO
MEAN!!!
So it's quite clear that there is no sense to spend
further time on internet cos there are sooooooo many
virius people there. Our words are already out, normal
people will take it, and that’s what we expect. For
the mad dogs, just let them bark.
My family will follow the internet. If they find out
really some critical things and need your help, I will
let you know, either wise, no need to pay attention on
it.
Keep carm, keep cool!
I actually feel very sorry that it bring you all
"famous" :( -- although in the past, i'm always very
causious, and prepared that there are some people who
are very bad, but it's just always beyond my
imagaination how virus could people be ：（
ｓｉｇｈ ：（
Girls！Take care of yourselves!!!
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作者：怀念天空般的笑容 来自：UC浏览器 时间：2013-04-20 00:42:00
真庞大的后援，问心无愧的话需要做这些事？
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:42:16
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To: "Hanlin Li" , "Jin Ya"
hanlin & Gang
Sorry that I need the help from you urgently for some
paper searching and translation :(
The purpose is to find out if Zhu ling’s case might
be just poisioned one, just like 熊猫累累& 感而后动
mentioned.
Jinya was searching a lot of papers, maybe you can
search as well from US? Might be different result?
What I need is the cases in which the patient was NOT
treated in time, better not treated after 1 or 2 or
even 3 months,so that we can have a look if the
symptoms are similar to Zhu Ling’s case.
So just need to very quickly filter the search result
and can simple throw the paper away if the patient was
treated in time.
If you find out the “suitable” case, pls help to
translate ONLY how the symptoms developed over time,
NO ＮＥＥD to translate how to treat it etc. Pls also
include the patients age, sex, general health
situation if any, and also the source of this paper.
Jin Ya will send you the paper she has already found
out that fulfill above “requirement” so that you
don’t need to translate again if you find the same
docs.
Can you help with it during these 2 days? Sorry for
the rush ? -- we very much need it for the doc
to police.
Many thanks in advance!
TAKE CARE!
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:42:41
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:42:34 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: About papers
To: "Hanlin Li" , s********[email protected]
1. I searched on PubMed with keywords "thallium" and
"poisoning".
2. In the about 600 papers, I got 3 papers that may be
useful (with full text). My filtering condition is:
once poisoning; acute or subacute; after exposure to
Tl, no appropriate treatment for more than 1 month. I
will translate the corresponding parts in these three
papers.
3. Since I have no full-text access to some journals,
for many papers I could only get their abstracts. I
had a look at all the abstracts of papers published
after July 1992, and I include in the attachment those
that maybe useful (need checking full-text to know),
so that if you can access to their full-text files,
have a look.
4. To extract the compressed file, save all the four
files in the same folder and click the *.part1.ext
file. (i am so "luo1 suo1", :P)
5. Naturally everyone has his/her favorite searching
strategy for papers, so I do expect hanlin or P2 will
find some useful papers other than what I got, that'll
be very cool :)
Girls, take care!
attach15_by_jinya.rar
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:44:37
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya"
, "Qi Wang"
Hanlin,
I just found today on Sina, in Wu Hong fei's blog, she
reported Zhu's case, and in the reply, i find somebody
pretending to be Xue Gang as well.
回复 网易网友(222.32.112.*):
清华物化2班的的朱令的同学们，你们真的就都是些自私自利见利忘义的小人？就
没有一个
象贝志成那样敢于说话吗？这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！
这是清
华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀
！这是
清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！！！！！清华的同学门，你们还
有良心
吗，不做噩梦吗？？？？
我是物化2班的团支书，我真的不忍心看到有关朱朱的所有东西，这些年来我一直
生活在自责于内疚之中，我不知道我该怎么做，其实这件事要真的查出真相一点都不难
，国务院督办！我能说的就是当年朱朱第二次中毒孙维被传的时候，院领导和系部召开
了一次很秘密的会议，我是唯一一个参加会议的在校学生，也许他们知道通知我开会是
个很大的错误，当中讲了一会儿的时候系主任叫我回去了，但我在我所在场的18分钟内
，我已经知道内容大概了，我的任务是事件保密和按护全班同学，不准单独核查和不准
猜测议论，在会议中提到是孙主席指示的，而且有关方面在为维维准备出国手续，后来
我知道是孙浮林。
到这里大家心理也很清楚，这件事如果中央不出面的话，在中国目前这个体制里，
朱朱事件只有沉冤！！！光凭一个贝志诚是不够的。
这些年我没有站出来，我有我的苦衷，包括我们2班所有同学。我们经常会收到拿
我们自己性命和家人性命以及工作等等相关的威胁！株连九族大家或许只在电视上见过
，可这些随时可以发生在我们2班同学身上。
我希望中央能真的重视这个案件，还朱朱一个公道。就是高院和高检都没办法的，
只有中央！！！
So you couple are both used :-P
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:45:27
Kidding, I think now the situation is really very bad.
People are much worse than I thought. But in stead of
getting angry, like couple of weeks ago, I feel
amused, strange hum? These people are too dirty for me
to be angry with them :)
So girls, i think we don't need further clarify things
on internet, unless something really important pop-up
-- I doubt though. Anyway, my family is monitering.
So let's live our normal life.
If for something I need help, i will shout :-)
So basically, the help I needed from you all:
1. Paper related: Ya and Hanlin couple -- "tasks"
already sent in another mail :-P
2. the supporting letter I previously sent out -- less
urgent than above paper, so take your time :-)
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya"
, "Qi Wang"
Dear Hanlin
Shocked to hear it!! These days I repeated again and
again, telling myself, and xxx, and jinya, that I now
really really understand why Chinese had Cultural
Revolution!
I don't even have your home number! I just got Gang's
mobile from Panfeng last night, try to talk to you but
didn't get connected.
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:45:52
Hanlin,
I'm very very sorry and sad to get you involved in
this dirty thing, especially that you all did it just
to support me :(
I don't know what to say... I'm really very very
sorry!
Things here is also very bad. Somebody claim living in
the same building as my parents posted their address
and call for people to post sth like da4 zi4 bao4 in &
around the building,and also to all the nagbours'
mailbox etc. I can't go home now. And have to get
prepared to "escape" from my own home as soon as
digged out.
Here in China there is no law or human right, and the
police will do nothing about it, but in US should be
different. Would you consult your lawyer how to handle
it? Or can you report to police ahead to prevent
something bad?
BTW, be careful of to all your acquaintance, if bad
guys trying to find out your personal info, it's very
likely from them, and we don't know whether they leak
it out accidentally or on purpose.
TAKE CARE TAKE CARE!!!
As said, I can't go to my parents home now, so contact
my own home before I have to move. 8295-3037, or xxx's
mobile at 13501024175. I'm at work and not convenient
to talk :(.
FYI I only made 2 posts, the 1st one you all know, 2nd
is called "Sun Wei de Zai sheng Ming", mainly 3
points: 1. appologize for the "evedropper", we made a
mistake, it IS a music cup :( 2.I've already submitted
to police and official application, ask them to
re-investigate the case. 3. new rumors, I won't
explain anymore.
I will ask xxx to forward you the whole statement.
For other so called statement, like I already hired
laywer etc,are all bullshit. I haven't posted anything
like those.
BTW, pls also send me your home number so that we can
talk in emergency.
Also, girls, if you have time, download the skypie
which xxx recommend, cos it's encrypted, and can also
do conference talk.
Talk to you all later!
TAKE CARE EVERYBODY!
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孙释颜和同学的通信
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Subject: Re: I am back and need your contact info
To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "sun wei"
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:35:20 +0800
so glad to hear from u from shanghai.
my cell: 13600072567
PF: 13570066776
contact u later, see u.
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:06:27 -0800 (PST)
Hanlin Li wrote:
> Dear piglets,
>
> I am back in China. It is a lot colder than I
> expected, fortunately, indoor temp. is very
> comfortable.
>
> I left from US in a hurry and didn't take your contact
> informaiton with me, could all of you please send me
> your phone numbers so I can reach you?
>
> I will start first:
>
> My home phone # at Anshan is : 0412-673-2565 and I
> also have a cell phone 136-1080-9319.
>
> Qizi,
>
> please send me P4's phone # as well, so Gang can bug
> him. :-)
>
> I am so looking forward to meeting all of you in
> Shanghai!
>
> Talk to you later.
>
> Hanlin
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作者：有物有则 来自：Android客户端 时间：2013-04-20 00:46:55
从头看到尾！他们还真是处心积虑啊！这一天天的也不好熬吧！呵呵
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:46:59
Subject: Re: I am back and need your contact info
To: "Hanlin Li"
CC: "Jin Ya" , "sun wei" , "
Qi Wang"
From: r******[email protected] View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:14:02 +0800
My mobil phone is 13530655861. I am afraid I can not go to shanghai for
reunion because these days our business is very busy. Sorry for this
bad
news.
Merry x-mas and happy new year to all of you in advance.
Hanlin Li
To
12/11/2005 10:06 r******[email protected], Jin Ya
AM , sun wei
, Qi Wang
cc
Subject
I am back and need your contact
info
Dear piglets,
I am back in China. It is a lot colder than I
expected, fortunately, indoor temp. is very
comfortable.
I left from US in a hurry and didn't take your contact
informaiton with me, could all of you please send me
your phone numbers so I can reach you?
I will start first:
My home phone # at Anshan is : 0412-673-2565 and I
also have a cell phone 136-1080-9319.
Qizi,
please send me P4's phone # as well, so Gang can bug
him. :-)
I am so looking forward to meeting all of you in
Shanghai!
Talk to you later.
Hanlin
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Subject: 来自清华
李含琳：
你好!你好!
无论是清华环境系校友的身份还是《南方周末》记者的名义，我都有足够的情感和
理性在今天
继续关注朱令
“铊中毒”事件。这一事件十年前就引起轩然大波，十年后仍未定案，不仅朱
令同学本人深受其害，她的家人也一直处于孤独的痛苦当中，而且也给那些关心过
朱令帮助过
朱令的朋友们留下了诸多不解和疑团。
我努力去找过化学系的老师和物化2班的同学。但是我还不敢惊动大部分人。包括
一些退休的
老师.我了解的情况是:大家已经很尽力。而当时一些媒体的不当报道,却可能伤害
了大家的感
情。大家一方面同情朱令，一方面又想保护同学.作为清华的学生，我不相信我的
同学是冷漠
的，相反，我认为这里面，肯定存在着一些相互的误解和微妙的抵触.而这些究竟
是什么?什么
造成了这种不信任?是不是怕伤害到了无辜?我也看到了有些同学，为孙维辩护.我
完全理解:因
为我们不会傻到先定一个人有罪,再去寻找他的过失.这是无论如何一个有智商的人
，都不会这
么做的。因为要公正,我相信你们也是这么想的。
昨天我甚至见到了和朱令一起演出的艺术团的一个校园歌手.也许大家都知道他。
他现在已经
几乎很成名了，踌躇满志,要回清华开咖啡馆,在北院.当时我心里很难过，我听到
一个98级化
学系的孩子说，年年提这个事情，年年没有结果.我听了更是伤感。
我去拜访过朱令父母。他们还在不停信访.朱母曾经因去年摔倒而开了脑颅.她感到
自己老了，
家里也没有其他人了。没有人可以照顾朱令.她想的是,怎么办?如果她去了，她说,
就让朱令也
和我一起去吧.
我当时,真是无话可说了。
他们并没有努力申诉自己的冤屈,我感到的不是他们的委屈和仇恨，而是对生命的
尊重.是一种
意志力.活下去的意志.那时候,我甚至不敢问:你们恨不恨凶手.我不敢问。
而我做这个事情，只是希望。还能够从媒体角度,促使公安部门追查嫌疑人,让大家
都有一个清
白的说法.
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:49:22
我和一个关注这个事情的朋友聊天，她说:“旧事重提，肯定会伤害到一些人的感
情。可我认
为，面对承受了人生的残忍和不公的朱令，面对承受了这么大痛苦的朱家父母，作
为健康、自
由、相对幸福生活着的人，如果只是因为怕伤害到自己和周围人的感情或者影响自
己和周围人
的生活而永远选择沉默，使真相在时光中消逝，那么，未免太不公平。因为真相虽
然是痛苦可
能甚至会触目惊心，但真相还是很重要的。因为我一直坚持，社会的正义和良心比
个人平静温
暖的内心舒适似乎更为重要。”
我希望通过自己实实在在的努力为她做些什么。作为《南方周末》的一名职业记者
，我深知，
虽然媒体是本着维护正义，保护弱者的立场进行追踪和关注，但我们并不能干预办
案或是有罪
推论，我们能够做的和最终力图做到的，只是抛开外界纷杂不一的说法，如实记录
朱令的同学
、家人，也就是所有了解她关心她愿意帮帮她的朋友们真实的声音。
我承认，我是一个多事者,
虽然我也曾在清华园度过了九年光阴.实际上我根本不必要关心
社会新闻，我的志向不在这里。但是等我见到朱的父母时,我就知道我必须追问下
去,即便是没
有结果，即便是…因为没有做好而丢失了一个记者应有的职业口碑.我很希望自己
能给朱令的
父母一些实际的帮助，也希望你们不要有太多的顾虑,信任我支持我。谋事在人，
成事在天。
我相信苍天在上,我失败一次，以后还会有人追问的。但我依然相信你们，我的同
学们,我相信
天下人的心是善良的，我也相信,我能够公正地呈现这个当年的事实.
谢谢你们。
所以，我能做的事情，不是追查，没有公安的证据我是不会定罪的，我只想呈现一
个事实，大
家在一种悲愤和沉郁之下，我们能够做的微薄之力,就是,即便是不知情,也要说出
不知情,也要
说出:我们需要知情.
我有看到过很多你的发言.此事我一直在关注着.我们没有高调介入是因为我们还在
不想惊动太
多人。如果你愿意发言...我很愿意.保护你的一切:姓名,住址联络方法.这是一个
基本的职业
道德。请你信任我.
《南方周末》记者
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Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:11:15 -0800 (PST)
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To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Dear piglets
I'm pretty bad these days. As you probablly have (or
have not) heard about it, People are discussing about
the rumor (basically cursing me) on hundreds of
websites in China and the rumor is now wide spread all
over my friends & colleagues...
In such a case, it's very difficult for me to keep
silence anymore. So I'm considering clarifying about
it.
I'm now spending all my "leasure" time drafting the
"clarification".
I'd like to send for you to help review it before
publish, hopefully within a week.
Will you have time then?
Subject: Re: Will you have time in the next week?
To: "Yes No"
CC: "Hanlin Li" , "Jin Ya" , "Qi
Wang"
From: r******[email protected] View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:44:17 +0800
Dear Wei,
I am really shocked by your e-mail because I haven't noticed it in
internet
at all. Really sorry for you. Of course I will leave time for you. If
you
would like to leave Beijing for a while, my home is always open for
you.
And if there is anything I can do for you, just tell me.
Wish you are strong enough and every bad thing is smooth as soon as
possible.
Take care, baby!
Gao
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:50:11
Yes No
.com>
To
r******[email protected], Hanlin
Li
12/19/2005 11:11 , Jin Ya
AM , Qi Wang
cc
Subject
Will you have time in the next
week?
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:50:36
Dear piglets
I'm pretty bad these days. As you probablly have (or
have not) heard about it, People are discussing about
the rumor (basically cursing me) on hundreds of
websites in China and the rumor is now wide spread all
over my friends & colleagues...
In such a case, it's very difficult for me to keep
silence anymore. So I'm considering clarifying about
it.
I'm now spending all my "leasure" time drafting the
"clarification".
I'd like to send for you to help review it before
publish, hopefully within a week.
Will you have time then?
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:52:03 -0800 (PST)
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To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang" <
[email protected]>, "sun wei"
Yeah, I didn't notice either. People can be really
mean, disgusting and irresponsible when they can speak
anonymously. Niangzi, be strong and take care!
Surely I have time. As Belle said, if anything we can
help, don't hesitate, we support you at any
circumstances.
Jin
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:51:04
--- r******[email protected] wrote:
> Dear Wei,
>
> I am really shocked by your e-mail because I haven't
> noticed it in internet
> at all. Really sorry for you. Of course I will leave
> time for you. If you
> would like to leave Beijing for a while, my home is
> always open for you.
> And if there is anything I can do for you, just tell
> me.
>
> Wish you are strong enough and every bad thing is
> smooth as soon as
> possible.
>
> Take care, baby!
> Gao
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:51:31
> Dear piglets
> I'm pretty bad these days. As you probablly have (or
> have not) heard about it, People are discussing
> about
> the rumor (basically cursing me) on hundreds of
> websites in China and the rumor is now wide spread
> all
> over my friends & colleagues...
>
> In such a case, it's very difficult for me to keep
> silence anymore. So I'm considering clarifying about
> it.
> I'm now spending all my "leasure" time drafting the
> "clarification".
> I'd like to send for you to help review it before
> publish, hopefully within a week.
>
> Will you have time then?
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
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>
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To: "Jin Ya" , r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li"
, "Qi Wang"
Thank you all piglets!!
Your mails makes me stronger and I will never be
knocked down! :)
Remember our old saying in dorm that we want to get
famous in public? -- Now I'm achieving it.
It's still not the worst case yet, but I'm prepared...
sooner or later...
Anyway, let's see...
--- Jin Ya wrote:
> Yeah, I didn't notice either. People can be really
> mean, disgusting and irresponsible when they can
> speak
> anonymously. Niangzi, be strong and take care!
>
> Surely I have time. As Belle said, if anything we
> can
> help, don't hesitate, we support you at any
> circumstances.
>
> Jin
>
> --- r******[email protected] wrote:
>
> > Dear Wei,
> >
> > I am really shocked by your e-mail because I
> haven't
> > noticed it in internet
> > at all. Really sorry for you. Of course I will
> leave
> > time for you. If you
> > would like to leave Beijing for a while, my home
> is
> > always open for you.
> > And if there is anything I can do for you, just
> tell
> > me.
> >
> > Wish you are strong enough and every bad thing is
> > smooth as soon as
> > possible.
> >
> > Take care, baby!
> > Gao
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:31:45 -0800 (PST)
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To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Dear all
Here is my draft doc. If you have time, pls help to
review it from an outsider point of view, to see if
there are some parts that is not proper
or could cause some misunderstanding etc.
Any comments welcome!
It would be great if you can give the feedback by
Friday night so that I can do the modification before
publish.
Many thanks!
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:25:43 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Dear everyone!
I'm soooooo moved by all of you! Of cause you all are
my BEST friends, lifetime friends (although I removed
the "best" friends statement in the doc that I'm
currently modifying, changed to "good" -- it might
bring negative effect if people want to make story out
of it)!
I can't express with words but I have to admit that
when I read the mail from all of you, I can't control
my tears, even now. What a strange creature human
being is -- when people are beating, hurting,
humiliating you, you are strong and never show sorrow,
but when you friends are comming with warm heart and
words, you, on the contrary, start to cry.
Anyway, no matter what happens, I always repeat to
myself, that I am not the poorest person in world and
I will never be knocked down. There are too many
examples that people sufferied much much more that I
do. So what I'm now experiencing is nothing. For
example, Zhu Ling's family is more poorer, and they
sufferred much much more. Of cause I don't like their
way of doing things but it's also understandable to
some extent.
I'm still making modifications based on some early
comment. If I can finish it by tonight, I will send
you to review again.
Anyway, let's see... Hope it doesn't cause you too
much trouble :(
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:57:20
Niangzi,
>
> I just saw your email this morning and gave a first
> read of the document. It is a well written document,
> very objective, with lots of facts, which made the
> document credible. I believe anyone who is not
> biased
> would get the right message. I am going to read it
> again, being a devil's advocate this time, and get
> back to you tonight.
>
> As a close friend of yours (I assumed), I feel so
> ashamed when I read your clarification, I had no
> idea
> what you have been through. If I were in your shoes,
> I
> may be collapsed already. I am really proud of you,
> after going through all this, you are still a
> strong,
> optimistic, cheerful girl, still the old Sun Xiaozhu
> we know of. I hope you will only grow stronger and
> happier from now on, as we (your best friends, I am
> speaking for all of the piglets here) will always be
> on your side, support you and fight back with you.
>
> Last but not least, wish you best of luck. I do
> believe after the issuance of your document, the
> public should get a clearer and more truthful
> picture
> of the whole thing, and give you back the oridinary
> life you've been wishing for.
>
> If anything I could be help with, don't hesitate to
> ask.
>
> Hanlin
>
>
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> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> > passward is "thetruth"
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:14:53 +0800 (CST)
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Dear niangzi,
refer to the attachment.
take care.
Gao
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Dear niangzi,
refer to the attachment.
take care.
Gao
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Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:35:22 -0800 (PST)
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Dear all
As said, I'm speechless, so have nothing to say.
Here is the new version after consolidating all your
precious comment, not 100% yet cos I don't have time
:(.
Anyway, if you have time tomorrow, pls have a look.
I properly need your support after I publish this one,
but I don't know exactly how. Let's talk about it a
bit later.
Merry Xmas!
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Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 13:01:14 +0800 (CST)
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To: "Yes No" , h****[email protected], jinyajane@yahoo.
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Dear Niangzi,
I have looked through the new version. This edition is more clear in
stating reality.
For content, I have no further advices. As I said, even the content is
perfect, maybe there are still some captious persons.
I think we will face more fireworks in internet, you must be strong and
ready to face them. Once you publish it, tell us the link and also as more
as possilbe friends. We also want to support you in situ in internet.
Merry x-mas to you and xxx!
Gao
Yes No 写道：
Dear all
As said, I'm speechless, so have nothing to say.
Here is the new version after consolidating all your
precious comment, not 100% yet cos I don't have time
:(.
Anyway, if you have time tomorrow, pls have a look.
I properly need your support after I publish this one,
but I don't know exactly how. Let's talk about it a
bit later.
Merry Xmas!
__________________________________________
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:58:28
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:40:32 -0800 (PST)
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, "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
娘子，
我看过第二版了，再提出几点意见，还是权作参考。
1。“...朱令也是校社团的积极分子。社团和团委的骨干成员有单独的宿舍楼，不
分院系、年级，既没有熄灯和用电限制也不锁楼门，是大家聚会、活动的中心。朱令经
常回宿舍很晚。她第一次中毒后返校期间仍然每天中午去社团或团委煎药，据她自己说
也有时是别人提前帮她煎好了的。”这一段如果写得再圆滑一点就好了，象加个“举个
例子来说”，“比如说”这样的词句。如果我是不知情的人，很可能会觉得你在暗示这
个情况和中毒有密切关系，如果不是你的本意的话，可能会有一些反面作用。看你的考
虑。
2。你爷爷那一段，我觉得挺好的。不过能不能稍微表达一下你爷爷出身贫寒，自
己奋斗成材的意思，反正就是别让人觉得你们家是那种大的“世家”，有很多人罩着的
那种。
3。“前不久的ｘｘｘ杀妻案为什么会被判刑？就是因为“死者”家属有怀疑，而
且又找到了一具女尸，看似证据确凿，而ｘｘｘ又拿不出证据证明自己无罪。其实这也
是许多未破案件时一些被怀疑人遇到的共同问题。”看到这一段我是想到了你说的应该
是"Simpson"的案子，但我的印象不深，google以后才了解了详情和最后判决，但其他
人会不会也能立刻想到？不过也许国内新闻曾广泛报道过？另外，我google后的感觉是
这个案子实在太复杂了，所以好多人好像还是对Simpson到底杀妻没有心存疑虑。再让
你家里人帮你参谋参谋，别起到了反作用。
我觉得你写得挺好的，这些意见都是我尽量站在不知情人的角度上吹毛求疵的结果
:)。我和其他小猪的担心一样，写得再好，也会有人故意或不故意地曲解。而且这两天
我在想，如果是朱家刻意地散布这些谣言，可能就是为了把你逼出来，现在也算达到了
目的了,sigh。不过也没法再躲了。但你一定要做好心理准备，要我们帮忙的尽管说，
另外怎么发表，从什么渠道，多少网站开始，还有对可能发生情况的应对（来自朱家，
公安什么的），也要做好准备。虽然我知道你家里人和xxx肯定已经帮你想到了，还是
忍不住多个嘴:P.
好了，正经事说完了，祝各个小猪圣诞快乐，新年好！
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 00:59:36
孙释颜和同学的通信揭秘！
透过这些信件，我们可以看到孙释颜是一个多么工于心计有着极强控制欲的女人；
也可以看到她是如何好像不经意的提起自己的委屈，煽动同学给她卖命，又如何先假装
同情朱令，但是时机一到就开始进行挑拨的。
我放在这里，欢迎大家转载
http://spaces.msn.com/sunshiyan/
号外号外，新料大放松
全民一起爆，俺也来凑热闹
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:33:14 -0800 (PST)
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"Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
Ya,
I don’t think you need to reply to him.
Wang Qi,
Pls in the future also don’t reply to him anything,
not to mail, not to call, not to release any
information.
I VERY MUCH believe he will / is collecting these
information for both Zhu’s family, and also for future
"evidence" if one day we have to face court.
BE VERY CAREFUL of our words, he will use it against
us -- I’m very sure.
AGAIN, DOON’T give him ANY INFORMATION.
Internally, we need to prepare something formal, like
formal clarification of the case, but it has nothing
to do with him.
Wei
--- Jin Ya wrote:
>
> Note: forwarded message attached.
>
> 1。王琪，他说的你打电话的内容是否属实？
> 2。大家说我是否要回？I just don’t believe him.
>
>
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> From: Yufeng Tong
> To: j*******[email protected]
> Subject: 请教两件事
>
> 金亚，
>
> 我就不罗嗦了。
>
>
王琪看了《新民周刊》的报道后给我写信说，朱令父亲说的面包一事不对，说电话
是朱家打给你们宿舍的，但是她说她没有接到。那么这个电话是否是你接的?关于面包
和壮骨粉，王琪说她绝对不会去吃这些东西，那么你对于这件事情是什么回忆？难道是
朱令父亲说错了？
>
>
第二件事情就是邱志江告诉我你一直在查铊中毒的案例，不知道你有没有查到潜伏
期4个月的例子？邱问我有没有朱令的病例，我没有helpzhuling网站的密码，没法查，
而且病例有的话也应该是97年之后的，因为我听朱令父母告诉我朱令中毒期间的原始病
例均被封存，连他们自己也没有。我想公安那里可能有。朱令父母的消息基本上是从公
安那里来的。他们对孙维在97年之前都没有怀疑。
>
> 童
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人物姓名表（按电子书文中出现的先后次序排列---包括注释中的人物姓名）：
朱令 1973年11月24日当时是清华大学物化92级学生家住北京方庄小区
吴承之 1939年生 朱令父亲上海人中国科技大学地球物理系毕业国家地震局高级工
程 师（退休前）
朱明新 1940年生 朱令母亲 吴承之的同班同学中国远洋运输总公司高级工程师（
退休前）
吴今 朱令姐姐 北京大学生物系学生
贝志城 朱令中学同学 当时是北京大学学生
陈震阳 当时北京职业病防治研究所研究员 曾于德国作访问学者
孙维 1973年生（朱令案发后改名孙释颜据传连同出生日期也一起修改）朱令同班
、同乐队、同寝室的同学在新民周刊的报道中被化名为苏荟
孙晓晨 孙维哥哥 原名孙晓（朱令案发后改名孙晓晨）
吴虹飞 《南方人物周刊》记者
李树森 北京市公安局十四处刑警队警官负责朱令被害案
张博 清华大学环境系学生 朱令同校同学
陈忠周 朱令同班同学 物理化学课代表
李舜伟 北京协和医院神经内科主任
张寿林 中国预防医学科学院劳动与卫生职业病研究所专家
崔月犁 原卫生部部长
刘鑫 法医
蔡全清 贝志城大学同学
刘利 贝志城大学同学
李新 美国加里福利亚州大学洛杉矶分校远程医疗专业博士
刘华杰 北京大学科学传播中心学者
陈耀松 北京大学力学系老师曾当过北大老校长周培源的助手
黄开胜 朱令民乐团同学 当时朱令男友 后在清华大学汽车工程系任教
ICU主任 杨荫昌（此人名字在电子书中没有出现，是本人在google上找到的此人曾
大骂新闻报道，说这件事是美帝国主义搞臭中国的阴谋）
史蒂夫-康宁(Steve Cunnion) 美国海军医生生物测定学和预防医学助理教授
约翰-奥迪斯（John Aldis) 前美国驻北京大使馆医生当时任职于华盛顿特区美国
国务院
罗伯特-芬克（Robert A Fink) 美国加里福利亚州医生
图灵（L Turin) 英国毒理学博士
薛钢 朱令同班同学 物化二班团支书现在美国辉瑞制药公司工作
吴向军 贝志城同学
孙某某 孙维父亲（按网络资料姓名为孙大武电子书中没有出现这个名字）
童宇峰 朱令同班同学 现在美国
邱志江 朱令同班同学 以真名在“天涯杂谈”上发言
张利 朱令同班同学 班长
薛方渝 当时任清华大学化学系副主任 主管学生工作
朱令舅妈
贺美英 当时任清华大学党委书记
张再兴 清华大学党委书记
王大中 当时任清华大学校长
清华大学保卫部长 （兼清华大学派出所副所长）
面包女生 朱令同寝室同学打电话给朱家声称寝室人分吃了朱令病发后未吃完的面
包
金亚 朱令同寝室同学新疆人备报案发现置于宿舍床底下的朱令的杯子现在日本做
博士后研究在天涯杂谈中的ID为“太阳正暖”
张捷 朱令律师
李慕成 清华大学派出所所长
王补 北京市公安局退休老公安
朱令舅舅
杜总长 清华大学总务处长
马主任 清华大学办公室主任
陈处长 清华大学保卫处处长
李处长 清华大学教务处处长
孙维的家人 在清华大学招待所丙所会见清华大学校党委、校办及系领导
陈童 记者 采访句号女生的记者
句号女生 朱令同寝室同学
王琪 朱令同寝室同学（陕西人）现在广州广发基金工作在天涯杂谈中的ID是“
forthetruth”
孙越崎 孙维祖父 民革中央名誉主席 享年103岁
谢飞宇 孙维丈夫原清华大学计算机系学生北京一家IT公司老板一名美国海归
李含琳 朱令同班但不同寝室的同学现在美国辉瑞制药公司工作在天涯杂谈中的ID
是“shoptodrop" 其丈夫是上述的薛钢
高菲 朱令同班但不同寝室的同学现在深圳工作在天涯杂谈中的ID是“小熊皮埃尔”
子路其 天涯网友 对“孙维声明”做语料分析
子路其的师姐 天涯网友
不安的咖啡 天涯网友 对“孙维声明”进行详细考古
angry_godness 网友
skyoneline 网友 天涯网站《天妒红颜》一文作者
素描初学者 百度朱令吧长达一年多始终为孙维辩护、拥有100多个注册id、身份不
明人士
木虚地 网友 据称暗指北京木樨地部长楼区
黄静 北京青年报实习记者
陈志刚 东方医院神经内科副主任
周文梅 朱令家的保姆
李亮 法制早报记者
俞蓉 北京浩天律师事务所律师免费为朱令与协和医院辩护
马晓刚 北京浩天律师事务所律师免费为朱令与协和医院辩护
陈建民 北京中孚律师事务所律师免费为朱令与协和医院辩护
冯素芳 北京中孚律师事务所律师免费为朱令与协和医院辩护
王小龙 北京大学化学系学生铊中毒案投毒犯
泰森 美国拳王 强奸犯
贺莉丹 《新民周刊》撰稿记者
李现平 朱令同班同学
胡海鹰 北京复兴医院全科医学科医生曾担任朱令的复健医生
于任飞 上海《新闻晨报》特派记者
陈安庆 《法制日报》记者
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 01:01:13
申欣旺 《法制日报》特约记者
孙桂生 朱令的古琴老师北京电影乐团音乐演奏家
叶竹盛 华南理工大学法学院教师
翟晓梅 中国协和医科大学生命伦理中心主任
吴冬 上海汇业律师事务所律师
陈万颖 《青年周末》记者
孙维母亲 （网络资料 其名为陈懿德 北京朝阳区医院皮肤科医生 电子书中没有出
现其名）
潘峰 朱令同班同学
潘波 朱令同班同学
李海霞 朱令代理律师
曹志雄 凤凰卫视鲁豫有约执行制片人
汪城 《新京报》记者
Jessie Tao 中国官方英文报 China Daily 记者
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娘子们 孙维《回贴纲要》中的受令者们
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楼主：纯金小马夹 时间：2013-04-20 01:01:35
今天是大年初一，我的良心已经受了一个月的折磨了。
今天我决定把真相说出来，我们几个同学是跟孙维很要好，而且我们的确不太了解
朱令中毒的细节。
所以，刚开始孙维跟我们提起网上有人诬蔑她，我们都很愿意替她声辩。
但是，随着事情的发展，我越来越怀疑她了，我的良心也越来越不安。
今天，我只把孙维发帖前给我们的指挥文件给大家看一看，大家就会明白我为什么
这样。
我可以担保这份文件的真实性，大家只要看看文件的最后我们几个的MSN都是网上
从来没公开过的就知道了。
对不起了，朱令。
回帖纲要：
总纲: 须每天逐渐发贴. 尽量不要互相呼应（例外：以大学同班同学身份的可以适
当呼应）。同时应当尽量回应其他人。建议互相加入一个MSN或其他IM.
1． 大学同班同学:发表对维的了解信任支持言论。（须立刻跟贴。可为新ID, 应
持续发贴）―― 征求他们意见。
2． 高中同学:证实维家庭廉洁 （须立刻跟贴，可为新ID: 徐卫新，王妤），同时
证明其人品和信任。（detail: 维住客厅, 家长和本人都骑车等）
3． 旁观者:分析窃听器。（须立刻跟，可为新ＩＤ）
4． 旁观者:分析维要求测谎. （须立刻跟，须为旧ID. Candidate: Lulu and his
wife.）
5． 旁观者:分析支持各条. （多ID, 多IP）
6． 旁观者角度分析清华拒发毕业证书的动机（旧ID,多ID）
7． 社团人:证实社团当时状况. （须旧ID,最好来自国外）
8． 校友:证实毒品管理不严。（不急，须多人,多ID. Candidate? ）
9． 资源委员会熟人:发表爷爷生平及证实逝世时间。 （不急。可为新ID,可持续
发贴）
10． 转贴至MITBBS及其它对此文有转载处。
娘子们注意事项：
１． 有顾虑的最好不用自己家的电脑／ＩＰ．
２． 如果有关键性的事实（和案件相关的）年久失修记不清了的千万要先和我确
认，如果记不清宁可不写，但一定不能自相矛盾！千万千万！
３． 记住：所有我们写在网上的信息朱令家人都会看到。所以不要给朱家提供额
外的信息，如咱们现在的生活、工作情况、联系方式等等，不必要信息不要提。
４． 长篇大论也行，逐条发也可以。不过长篇大论难度较大，所以重要的要点还
是建议逐条发帖。
５． 估计最热烈的时间应该是明天后的一周内，有条件的娘子最好能在这一周内
偶尔关注，做必要的回复。
６． 如果有人明显的胡搅蛮缠，可以不用理他。
７． 如果万一将来有记者要求采访，千万不要被记者的花言巧语迷惑，至少现在
看起来最好的办法是拒绝。也许Ｎ年后会不同，只能到时再议了：）
以大学同班女生身份可以说明的情况：
Below are just the points I thought of, exact wording are up to you
1） 看见网上有些人毫无依据胡编乱造，甚至人身攻击，十分生气。
2） 以前也曾想替孙维说话辩解，都被她劝阻。这次孙维忍无可忍，自己站出来声
明。我们都很支持她。
3） 证明孙维根本不是这样的人，不可能做这样的事。
4） 孙维她们宿舍非常和睦友好，从未有过任何矛盾。所有舍友人都很好，朱令中
毒不可能和她们宿舍有任何关系。
5） 朱令社交活动很多，除了社团活动，还有很少在宿舍，也很少参加班里活动。
6） 孙维家庭根本不是大家想象中的“高干家庭”，她生活朴实，上学从来都是骑
自行车，学期开始和结束时也不例外。当时班上一些外地同学寒暑假都有家里派小车接
送，孙维却从来都是大包小包自己驮。
7） 希望大家不要轻信网上的谣言，冷静理智，不要被人利用。
8） 帮助朱令、为朱令募捐是好事，但没必要为了增添效果胡编乱造编造
9） 。。。。。
我准备上刑场的时间：12.29日晚10:30, 大家最好在10：00左右上线，在msn上报
到：）
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作者：happyhappy2020 时间：2013-04-20 01:02:49
ding
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作者：马蹄山常驻 来自：UC浏览器 时间：2013-04-20 01:02:49
孙维孙释颜，你这个魔鬼，还有你的几个帮凶，祝你们早日下地狱！！！！！
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作者：海的钥匙 来自：手机版 时间：2013-04-20 01:08:48
可怕的女人 可怕的后援团
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作者：lucy4466 时间：2013-04-20 01:13:30
只要提起，就要关注
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作者：侠9 来自：Android客户端 时间：2013-04-20 01:44:21
不知道真相是什么？
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作者：樱小路不顺 时间：2013-04-20 01:49:13
一手遮天说的就是这种人吧，朱令太可怜了。
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作者：不在夏天 时间：2013-04-20 02:03:15
什么都
干得出来
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作者：家务全能侠 时间：2013-04-20 02:11:51
早晚要你伏法
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作者：changtian4 来自：Android客户端 时间：2013-04-20 02:13:23
我就问一句为什么就不能对姓孙的和她们寝室几个女的使用测慌仪器？？谁能解下惑
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作者：黑暗玫瑰143 来自：UC浏览器 时间：2013-04-20 02:17:08
帮顶
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作者：球球爱土豆 时间：2013-04-20 02:21:35
原来淸华是垃圾
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作者：Barbie_lpy 时间：2013-04-20 02:25:38
无力感！只能帮顶！！！
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作者：daisy_shadow 时间：2013-04-20 02:51:44
先顶再看
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作者：小春哥 时间：2013-04-20 04:50:29
3
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作者：盛水瓶 时间：2013-04-20 05:14:07
谢谢楼主的信息，我想将来可以从中发掘很多资料，但是不知道这种非正常手段获
取的邮件能不能作为被人真正认可的依据，请熟悉美国法律的朋友指教一二。
比如说，
If he/she knows about cultural revolution, it's
> > easier
> > for them to understand, like Ya's boss.
它们提到说文化大革命，会有助于外国人的理解，个人在集体面前被剥夺健康幸福
和寻求公道的机会，也要美化成对集体，也就是你们猪圈的奉献是吗？看来它们理解的
很深刻啊！！为了美国人民的人身安全和思想健康，美国移民局和调查局应该有必要对
这群没进化好的猪头加强监视，以弥补把这群既不信上帝也不信正义的败类放入美国土
地的过失。另外，一帮拿着美国绿卡的东西，在中国的论坛上指手画脚，污染视听，美
国网络警察是不是也该管管！！
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作者：原装德国货 时间：2013-04-20 09:22:10
通篇看完了，真是觉得这几个女人很可怕。英语倒是很好，但是心机也是不一般。
作为朱令中毒事件一个旁观者，仅能从"新闻报道"和各路当事人的只言片语中有自己或
对或错的判断。当看到警方以"法律，法规及相关规定不予公开的其他情形"而拒绝公开
此案信息http://news.163.com/13/0420/02/8SSDC7PE00014AED.html 事情已经很明了。相对于小时候看过的任何电视历史奇案，我们也正在经历着历史。希望再朱令和其父母的有生之年，逍遥了近十年的此案的真凶能够被抓到。无论是在美国还是在地球上任何一个角落。
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作者：穿个马甲过家家 时间：2013-04-20 09:37:25
。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
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作者：ohomyladygaga 时间：2013-04-20 11:21:47
一帮贱人
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作者：一别两宽各生欢喜 来自：Android客户端 时间：2013-04-20 11:30:33
向黑客致敬。正规法制渠道找不到答案，人们只能用这种方法寻找答案。
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作者：金色云海 时间：2013-04-20 11:52:02
向黑客致敬
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作者：BBS骚客 时间：2013-04-20 13:35:16
如果是真的，致敬黑客！用黑暗的力量做了正义的事。
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发帖数: 1634 | 3 宜将剩勇追穷寇，
如果这些都是真的，孙一坨们正是在黑暗的角落发抖，它们非常需要互相沟通来鼓劲，
赶紧让FBI看看他们说什么
如果不是真的，孙一坨们肯定没啥担心的。 | l*******w
发帖数: 54 | 4 > enforcement. Looks like now they think WQ and I live
> in the same room with you, so yazi may be safe for a
> while. It was our careless mistake that we didn't
> change our phone number after we move to the current
> address. | l*******w
发帖数: 54 | 5 > enforcement. Looks like now they think WQ and I live
> in the same room with you, so yazi may be safe for a
> while. It was our careless mistake that we didn't
> change our phone number after we move to the current
> address. | n*********y
发帖数: 89 | 6 我建议给这些同案犯公司人事部打电话，质问他们为什么录用中国来的投毒谋杀犯。 |
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