b*******y
发帖数: 1240 | 1 i dont think that speaking with americans can be helpful, at least not for
me
i feel like my oral english is getting worse and worse
and i want to find a way to improve it asap
any suggestions?
thanks and sorry that i cannot type Chinese at company |
H**r
发帖数: 10015 | 2 1.年龄限制，基础限制，天分限制等注定你能提高的余地有限。所以首先要有个比较现
实的期望。
2.多揣摩别人怎么说的，除了听别人说也可以看些文字的东西。一般阅读写作好的，口
语表达也还行，语言是相通了，只提高口语不提高别的不现实。 |
f******x
发帖数: 2260 | |
z**n
发帖数: 22303 | 4 我们公司请了个专业人士提供服务,首先是发音测试,找出主要的发音缺陷有针对性地纠
正提高,感觉非常有效果,一共是16-18小时的一对一授课时间吧.
【在 b*******y 的大作中提到】
: i dont think that speaking with americans can be helpful, at least not for
: me
: i feel like my oral english is getting worse and worse
: and i want to find a way to improve it asap
: any suggestions?
: thanks and sorry that i cannot type Chinese at company
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x*****u
发帖数: 6559 | 5
ditch chinese
【在 b*******y 的大作中提到】
: i dont think that speaking with americans can be helpful, at least not for
: me
: i feel like my oral english is getting worse and worse
: and i want to find a way to improve it asap
: any suggestions?
: thanks and sorry that i cannot type Chinese at company
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C********N
发帖数: 1263 | 6 你公司在哪个州呀，能不能提供这种服务的名字，是speak therapist吗？
如果在洛杉矶的话，能不能给个电话。
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 我们公司请了个专业人士提供服务,首先是发音测试,找出主要的发音缺陷有针对性地纠
: 正提高,感觉非常有效果,一共是16-18小时的一对一授课时间吧.
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z**n
发帖数: 22303 | 7 这人在波特兰通过网络授课,没有地域限制.
联系方式PM了。给你贴个我课程前后的测试结果吧。我有两个很常见的元音和一个常见
辅音没有特别重视，否则结果会好很多。
Area Initial Evaluation Final Evaluation Change
Auditory
Comprehension 98% 39/40 98% 39/40 ----- None.
Speech:
Consonants 77% 205/266 90% 240/266 +13%
Good improvement, now at 90%. Still some residual differences with /l/ and
not pronouncing some sounds with a voice at the end of words.
Speech:
Vowels 75% 125/166 86% 143/166 +11%
Good improvement. Improved but still some i/Ι confusion and some
inconsistent vowel confusion.
Intonation Sentences，Stress，Pitch
64% 27/42 76%16/21 52% 11/21，86% 26/42 90% 19/21 81% 7/21，+22% +14% +29%
Excellent improvement, especially with pitch at the end of sentences. Now
communicating statements with more certainty with downward pitch inflection.
Rate Adequate Adequate N/A None.
Volume Adequate Adequate N/A None.
【在 C********N 的大作中提到】
: 你公司在哪个州呀，能不能提供这种服务的名字，是speak therapist吗？
: 如果在洛杉矶的话，能不能给个电话。
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m******k
发帖数: 2390 | 8 read wall street junornal/nytimes, (one hour per day)
watch cnn, watch all good dramas. (two hours per day)
and you will be good.
【在 b*******y 的大作中提到】
: i dont think that speaking with americans can be helpful, at least not for
: me
: i feel like my oral english is getting worse and worse
: and i want to find a way to improve it asap
: any suggestions?
: thanks and sorry that i cannot type Chinese at company
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j****1
发帖数: 4504 | |
v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 10 先找找主要的原因，是发音不准，还是听力不足，或是生活背景知识不够。 |
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z**n
发帖数: 22303 | 11 专业训练过的有一套自己的方法，效率高多了。比如我这个例子，人测试后的结论就是
五个常见的发音纠正过来，就能解决95%的发音问题。再加上重读和音调纠正一下整体
就会提高很多。当然课外要多花时间才能把学到的真正用到日常口语中，这是个长期的
依赖自己工作。还有就是有些错误的发音是需要对口型矫正的，这个时候专业人士的指
导就非常有必要。
有经济能力的我还是建议找专业人士评估一下。
【在 j****1 的大作中提到】
: 找个老外
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s*******u
发帖数: 241 | 12 find your local NPR station, and listen to it all it time, during breakie,
in the car etc... they have clean english, a quite uniform accent (sometimes
can be plain and boring thou, lol)...they sometimes have articles talking
about the stories they covered... so you can read it too (to further
understand what exactly they said)...
I often find that everytime i learn a new word or phase, i will realize an
occasion to use it in 1-2 days, so to practice when it is still fresh is the
key....
dont be frustrated....and be absolutely patient... you CAN NOT get it fast! |
b**********1
发帖数: 858 | 13 我也要联系方式，谢谢！
不过自己掏钱请这种专家一定非常贵。。。
肯定上千刀了：（
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 这人在波特兰通过网络授课,没有地域限制.
: 联系方式PM了。给你贴个我课程前后的测试结果吧。我有两个很常见的元音和一个常见
: 辅音没有特别重视，否则结果会好很多。
: Area Initial Evaluation Final Evaluation Change
: Auditory
: Comprehension 98% 39/40 98% 39/40 ----- None.
: Speech:
: Consonants 77% 205/266 90% 240/266 +13%
: Good improvement, now at 90%. Still some residual differences with /l/ and
: not pronouncing some sounds with a voice at the end of words.
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b*******y
发帖数: 1240 | 14 i want the contact info too
thanks
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 这人在波特兰通过网络授课,没有地域限制.
: 联系方式PM了。给你贴个我课程前后的测试结果吧。我有两个很常见的元音和一个常见
: 辅音没有特别重视，否则结果会好很多。
: Area Initial Evaluation Final Evaluation Change
: Auditory
: Comprehension 98% 39/40 98% 39/40 ----- None.
: Speech:
: Consonants 77% 205/266 90% 240/266 +13%
: Good improvement, now at 90%. Still some residual differences with /l/ and
: not pronouncing some sounds with a voice at the end of words.
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j*****s
发帖数: 80 | 15 May I have the contact too? Thanks! |
g***l
发帖数: 18555 | 16 多说啊，没事就做PRESENTATION，多给老美讲故事 |
b*******y
发帖数: 1240 | 17 how about your accent?
and it is very difficult to correct the grammer by just speaking a lot
【在 g***l 的大作中提到】
: 多说啊，没事就做PRESENTATION，多给老美讲故事
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E***a
发帖数: 685 | 18 watch Friends!
It really works for me! |
h****n
发帖数: 298 | 19 什么公司这么好啊，我要能去就好了。
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 我们公司请了个专业人士提供服务,首先是发音测试,找出主要的发音缺陷有针对性地纠
: 正提高,感觉非常有效果,一共是16-18小时的一对一授课时间吧.
|
g***l
发帖数: 18555 | 20 我没有ACCENT，可能有的词发音不对，这个就要靠自己听了，别人怎么说的就怎么学，
比如，别人说PAIN IN THE NECK的时候是怎么说的，要尽力去模仿。其次，自己的
ACCENT，要经常被人拿出来笑话，
比如ALLEN，念做爱L LIN，两个L都要发音，中国人的L发音不对，不是很重，就是舌头
不打弯，念错的单词要反复练，然后让同事孩子邻居给纠正，不能轻易放过一个单词，
一个发音。你去找工作发音不对，人听不懂，是不会原谅你的。比如VOILIN的V发音的
时候要闭嘴，中国人很容易发成WOILIN。
【在 b*******y 的大作中提到】
: how about your accent?
: and it is very difficult to correct the grammer by just speaking a lot
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s*******z
发帖数: 422 | 21 I had the exact question before only to find out it wasn't the question to
ask.
The real question is how can you learn to enjoy the conversation with others
. It will certainly help if you can have someone teach you the proper
pronunciation, but it varies how you can really benefit from it. I would
rather spend more time on learning American culture and exploring any bit of
fun in my daily life and work.
Let me ask you this: When talking to an American who can speak Chinese,
would you rather one with accent but can initiate interesting conversations?
Or the one who speaks perfect Chinese but is boring?
【在 b*******y 的大作中提到】
: i dont think that speaking with americans can be helpful, at least not for
: me
: i feel like my oral english is getting worse and worse
: and i want to find a way to improve it asap
: any suggestions?
: thanks and sorry that i cannot type Chinese at company
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g***l
发帖数: 18555 | 22 口音别人是可以适应的，有点口音不是不可以，不能原谅的是BROKEN ENGLISH，不成句
，语法错误太多，吞吞吐吐，想好了组织好了再说，看别人发楞，就重新组织重新选词
再说一遍。英语当然可以提高，但很多人很容易原谅自己的错误，要不就是不参与不说
话，一说话就跟吵架似的喊。不能清晰逻辑地表达自己的观点，并说服别人，就说明你
的英语是有问题的。自己先用英语说服自己，再说出口。 |
r******l
发帖数: 291 | 23 口语这东西很大一部分靠天份。其他多看多听多背，绝对有好处 |
E*******e
发帖数: 1309 | 24 发音这种东西，年龄小的时候容易练一下。年龄大了会难得改变些，但是肯苦练还是有
一些用处的。建议用复读机一句句的听磁带然后模仿。我小时候就是学习疯狂英语杂志
的，到后来里面的台词不经过脑袋都可以背出来勒 |
B********e
发帖数: 19317 | |
g***l
发帖数: 18555 | 26 周围那么多人在说英语，电视也在说，随便拾点牙慧也学会了吧，功夫不负有心人的，
不能懒，也别指望别人来教你。 |
w*********g
发帖数: 30882 | 27 I played PC games with a lot of English dialogues, with subtitle of course.
It improves my spoken English a lot. |
s**********y
发帖数: 353 | 28 slow down, find the tempo and record your own speech. |
N******n
发帖数: 3003 | |
p**********n
发帖数: 459 | 30 想问一下LZ指的"speaking with Americans"是平时买东西问路什么的随便说几句，还
是有几个和你比较要好的American朋友经常混？光是前者的话作用不大。当初我练英语
时经常有发音不准而被美国朋友取笑，笑多了才能记得住，就是这样磨练出来的。现在
的中国人多数扎堆，真正和美国人交流的机会不多，英语improve不了也是难怪的。
【在 b*******y 的大作中提到】
: i dont think that speaking with americans can be helpful, at least not for
: me
: i feel like my oral english is getting worse and worse
: and i want to find a way to improve it asap
: any suggestions?
: thanks and sorry that i cannot type Chinese at company
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m********g
发帖数: 2323 | |
o*****d
发帖数: 609 | 32 一般，英语讲不好的人，他的母语，也就是中文，一定讲得够呛。
others
of
conversations?
【在 s*******z 的大作中提到】
: I had the exact question before only to find out it wasn't the question to
: ask.
: The real question is how can you learn to enjoy the conversation with others
: . It will certainly help if you can have someone teach you the proper
: pronunciation, but it varies how you can really benefit from it. I would
: rather spend more time on learning American culture and exploring any bit of
: fun in my daily life and work.
: Let me ask you this: When talking to an American who can speak Chinese,
: would you rather one with accent but can initiate interesting conversations?
: Or the one who speaks perfect Chinese but is boring?
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b****r
发帖数: 17995 | 33 我见过很多外F不知道F了多少年了口语还跟狗屎一样
这个东西还是很讲一个天赋的，不是那块料的pussy被插烂也不管用
【在 m********g 的大作中提到】
: 外F
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h*******r
发帖数: 847 | 34 不过最多一个月工资而已嘛
【在 b**********1 的大作中提到】
: 我也要联系方式，谢谢！
: 不过自己掏钱请这种专家一定非常贵。。。
: 肯定上千刀了：（
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n******g
发帖数: 17225 | |
D*a
发帖数: 6830 | |
n******m
发帖数: 644 | |
d*******i
发帖数: 414 | 38 can you PM the contact information? Thanks.
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: 这人在波特兰通过网络授课,没有地域限制.
: 联系方式PM了。给你贴个我课程前后的测试结果吧。我有两个很常见的元音和一个常见
: 辅音没有特别重视，否则结果会好很多。
: Area Initial Evaluation Final Evaluation Change
: Auditory
: Comprehension 98% 39/40 98% 39/40 ----- None.
: Speech:
: Consonants 77% 205/266 90% 240/266 +13%
: Good improvement, now at 90%. Still some residual differences with /l/ and
: not pronouncing some sounds with a voice at the end of words.
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