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发帖数: 2192 | 1 这本书是Dr Brian Weiss记载的一个病人的轮回体验。
An Intimate Interview with Dr Brian Weiss – Brian L. Weiss
Posted by hayhouseoz on February 7, 2011 · 6 Comments
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1. You have graduated from the University of Columbia and Yale and worked as
a professor at the University of Miami. Tell us about the transition from a
professor to a psychotherapist to an author. What made you take up
psychotherapy?
I’ve always been interested in the brain and that is why I specialized in
psychiatry after graduating from Yale University School of Medicine. I was
interested in brain chemistry and I also published many papers in the field
of psychopharmacology. While I was Chairman of the Department of Psychiatry
and also Clinical Associate Professor, a patient came to me with phobias and
panic attacks. While treating her with psychotherapy and hypnotherapy, she
started describing past lives. Her therapy was so remarkable that a few
years after her treatment ended I decided to write “Many Lives, Many
Masters,” the story of her journey.
2. Being from a science background yourself, did the initial sessions of
Past Life intrigue you? How difficult was it for you to believe in something
that has not been proven scientifically?
I was very intrigued but my initial reaction was one of skepticism. I didn’
t believe in the concept of reincarnation. I considered the possibilities of
metaphor, symbolism, fantasy or imagination, multiple personalities, etc.
However, her symptoms disappeared, and I knew that imagination didn’t cure
such life-long and profound problems. Also, her recall was very detailed and
emotional, and there was some validation to her ancient memories. Since
that experience, I have used regression therapy to past lives with more than
four thousand patients in my office over the past thirty-eight years, and I
no longer doubt.
3. It is said that memories of past life are nothing but one’s imagination.
Please clarify. In addition, there has been a lot of criticism about your
thesis on Past Life Regression. What is the harshest criticism that came
your way and how do you deal with that?
As a psychotherapist I know that imagination does not have a long-term
curative effect by itself. I have had patients speaking foreign languages
that they have never heard or studied. I have had patients who have found
their families from past lives after therapy sessions in which they recalled
specific validational information. Others have known detailed historical
facts that they never studied. So it is much more than imagination.
The harshest criticism has come from other psychiatrists who never studied
regression therapy, who never tried it with their patients, and who
therefore have uninformed opinions. These criticisms were worse in the 1980
′s and 1990′s, but I find less of this resistance now.
4. How do you cure a person through Past Life Therapy and what is the
relation between what you have learnt in the university and the therapy you
impart?
The concept of past life therapy is very much related to traditional
psychotherapy. The recall of emotionally important and often forgotten
memories has a healing effect on present day symptoms. Past life therapy
merely expands the arena beyond childhood and infancy into previous lives.
The overall theory and therapeutic skills are the same.
‘There does seem to be a continuity of the individual soul. That is how
we learn our lessons here. However, at some higher level all souls are
connected.’
5. According to Hinduism, a soul has to take more than 4,00,000 births to
become a human and that the Karma of a person affects his next life. How
does past life therapy take someone to the previous human birth and how does
the previous birth affect one’s present birth?
I don’t know how many lives it takes to become human. My focus is on
healing, and this seems more to be connected to previous lives as a human.
There is a strong connection between the events in previous lives and the
symptoms, talents, and relationships in the present life. Using techniques
of hypnotherapy it is not overly difficult to remember past lives. About 75%
of my patients have been able to access recall of previous lifetimes.
To me karma is not punishment but is an opportunity to learn our lessons. If
the lessons have not been learned in a previous lifetime, we come back to
work on them. The lessons are about love, compassion, non-violence, patience
and understanding, non-prejudice, etc.
6. Is there continuity of the individual soul? Does the concept of Past Life
provide evidence for reincarnation? Also, is it possible for one to attain
moksha or salvation?
There does seem to be a continuity of the individual soul. That is how we
learn our lessons here. However, at some higher level all souls are
connected. The concept of past life therapy provides direct evidence for
reincarnation since it is the same thing. The soul enters a new body to
continue its journey of learning. When the learning is complete, then
liberation or moksha is attained. | w*********r
发帖数: 2192 | 2 To me karma is not punishment but is an opportunity to learn our lessons. If
the lessons have not been learned in a previous lifetime, we come back to
work on them. The lessons are about love, compassion, non-violence, patience
and understanding, non-prejudice, etc. | J******s
发帖数: 7538 | 3 Here are some interview videos, I listened one.
What he said should be somehow true, but it contradicts to what Buddha says.
I love what Buddha says much more.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2116422939505683699#
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【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】
: 这本书是Dr Brian Weiss记载的一个病人的轮回体验。
: An Intimate Interview with Dr Brian Weiss – Brian L. Weiss
: Posted by hayhouseoz on February 7, 2011 · 6 Comments
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: 1. You have graduated from the University of Columbia and Yale and worked as
: a professor at the University of Miami. Tell us about the transition from a
: professor to a psychotherapist to an author. What made you take up
: psychotherapy?
: I’ve always been interested in the brain and that is why I specialized in
: psychiatry after graduating from Yale University School of Medicine. I was
| J******s
发帖数: 7538 | 4 In Buddhism the lessons should all focus on avijjā.
云何无明。谓于前际无知。后际无知。前后际无知。于内无知。外无知。内外无知。于
业无知。异熟无知。业异熟无知。于善作业无知。恶作业无知。善恶作业无知。于因无
知。因所生法无知。于佛法僧无知。于苦集灭道无知。于善不善法无知。于有罪无罪法
无知。于应脩不应脩法无知。于下劣胜妙法无知。于黑白法无知。于有敌对法无知。于
缘生无知。于六触处如实无知。如是无知无见非现观。黑闇愚痴。无明盲冥。罩网缠里
。顽??浑浊。障盖发盲。发无明。发无智。发劣慧。障碍善品。令不涅槃。无明漏。无
明瀑流。无明轭。无明毒根。无明毒茎。无明毒枝。无明毒叶。无明毒花。无明毒果。
痴等痴极痴。欣等欣极欣。痴类痴生。总名无明。
If
patience
【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】
: To me karma is not punishment but is an opportunity to learn our lessons. If
: the lessons have not been learned in a previous lifetime, we come back to
: work on them. The lessons are about love, compassion, non-violence, patience
: and understanding, non-prejudice, etc.
| S**U
发帖数: 7025 | 5 I read the book years ago. What he believed in is the 2nd view below, 常见.
佛告仙尼∶「汝莫生疑！以有惑故，彼则生疑。仙尼！当知有三种师。何等为三？有一
师，见现在世真实是我，如所知说，而无能知命终后事，是名第一师出于世间。复次、
仙尼！有一师，见现在世真实是我，命终之后亦见是我，如所知说。复次、仙尼！有一
师，不见现在世真实是我，亦复不见命终之后真实是我。
仙尼！其第一师见现在世真实是我，如所知说者，名曰断见。彼第二师见今世后世真实
是我，如所知说者，则是常见。彼第三师不见现在世真实是我，命终之后亦不见我，是
则如来、应、等正觉说，现法、爱断，离欲、灭尽、涅盘」。
http://www.mahabodhi.org/agama/Class_Note_14.htm
It was explained in DN 2, Brahma net sutra, why someone would have such a
view. Though continuity of karma is correct, the view is tainted by of an
unchanging identity. The view can be purified by direct observation of
dependent origination, as part of realizing the four noble truths.
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【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】
: 这本书是Dr Brian Weiss记载的一个病人的轮回体验。
: An Intimate Interview with Dr Brian Weiss – Brian L. Weiss
: Posted by hayhouseoz on February 7, 2011 · 6 Comments
: Picture 1
: 1. You have graduated from the University of Columbia and Yale and worked as
: a professor at the University of Miami. Tell us about the transition from a
: professor to a psychotherapist to an author. What made you take up
: psychotherapy?
: I’ve always been interested in the brain and that is why I specialized in
: psychiatry after graduating from Yale University School of Medicine. I was
| J******s
发帖数: 7538 | 6 nice
mark！
【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: I read the book years ago. What he believed in is the 2nd view below, 常见.
: 佛告仙尼∶「汝莫生疑！以有惑故，彼则生疑。仙尼！当知有三种师。何等为三？有一
: 师，见现在世真实是我，如所知说，而无能知命终后事，是名第一师出于世间。复次、
: 仙尼！有一师，见现在世真实是我，命终之后亦见是我，如所知说。复次、仙尼！有一
: 师，不见现在世真实是我，亦复不见命终之后真实是我。
: 仙尼！其第一师见现在世真实是我，如所知说者，名曰断见。彼第二师见今世后世真实
: 是我，如所知说者，则是常见。彼第三师不见现在世真实是我，命终之后亦不见我，是
: 则如来、应、等正觉说，现法、爱断，离欲、灭尽、涅盘」。
: http://www.mahabodhi.org/agama/Class_Note_14.htm
: It was explained in DN 2, Brahma net sutra, why someone would have such a
| w*********r
发帖数: 2192 | 7 hehe, you are correct.
I didn't realize it earlier.
This doctor is using 轮回体验 to cure his patients.
Then maybe he should emphasize on no “常我"
to relieve the pain of his patients in a more fundamental way.
【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: I read the book years ago. What he believed in is the 2nd view below, 常见.
: 佛告仙尼∶「汝莫生疑！以有惑故，彼则生疑。仙尼！当知有三种师。何等为三？有一
: 师，见现在世真实是我，如所知说，而无能知命终后事，是名第一师出于世间。复次、
: 仙尼！有一师，见现在世真实是我，命终之后亦见是我，如所知说。复次、仙尼！有一
: 师，不见现在世真实是我，亦复不见命终之后真实是我。
: 仙尼！其第一师见现在世真实是我，如所知说者，名曰断见。彼第二师见今世后世真实
: 是我，如所知说者，则是常见。彼第三师不见现在世真实是我，命终之后亦不见我，是
: 则如来、应、等正觉说，现法、爱断，离欲、灭尽、涅盘」。
: http://www.mahabodhi.org/agama/Class_Note_14.htm
: It was explained in DN 2, Brahma net sutra, why someone would have such a
| I*********t
发帖数: 149 | | v**s
发帖数: 421 | 9 Mei看过，but I 觉得作者是个骗子。
you can find the review from amazon.com | S**U
发帖数: 7025 | | | | r****n
发帖数: 8253 | 11 这本书当中某些案例，确实是有问题的，属于自我暗示类，后来也有文章分析了其中的
一些案例。
作者算不上骗子，但不太严谨。
【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: 觉得作者是骗子的能举出理由嘛？
| J******s
发帖数: 7538 | 12 同意，而且我觉得他说他一个星期就可以训练别的医生这种技巧/技术帮助病人回到过
去世的。
我觉得这个说法有点夸张，回到过去世没有那么容易的。
他的治疗方法我觉得不治本的，病人得到的也是心理暗示或者自我安慰居多。
【在 r****n 的大作中提到】
: 这本书当中某些案例，确实是有问题的，属于自我暗示类，后来也有文章分析了其中的
: 一些案例。
: 作者算不上骗子，但不太严谨。
| r*******c
发帖数: 1060 | 13 2009年一个很WISE令我很尊敬很感恩的GG推荐我看这本书，当时我还是个完全没有接触
过佛教轮回说的，至多可能在电视里或者什么地方听过轮回投胎这些词。当时看了还记
了笔记，不过，现在很多想法都变了。这2年，心路历程/对世界的认识，变化还挺多的
，感觉在一个TRANSFORMATION的过程中。
当时的笔记：
Brian Weiss. (1988). Many lives, Many masters. New York: Simon & Schuster
Inc.
备注：是别人介绍的，一开始看excerpt觉得好没兴趣，不过还是鼓起勇气看了，结果
发现蛮好的，还掉了几滴眼泪。恩。笔记如下：
1. The steady day-in and day-out pounding of undermining influences, such as
a parent scathing criticisms, could cause even more psychological trauma
than a single traumatic event. (page 42)
00解说：嗯，日积月累，累积的力量。
2. Our task is to learn, to become God-like through knowledge. We know so
little. You are here to be my teacher. I have so much to learn. By knowledge
we approach God, and then we can rest. Then we come back to teach and help
others. (page 46)
00解说：截止到目前，我不愿意come back.也许以后境界提高了会改变吧。
3. I have a great love stirring, a strong feeling of oneness and connection
with the heavens and the earth.(page 57)
00解说：嗯，理解他说的oneness and connection with the heavens and the
earth
4. How powerful the fear of death is , people go to such great lengths to
avoid the fear: mid-life crisis, affairs with younger people, cosmetic
surgeries, exercise obsessions, accumulating material possessions,
procreating to carry on a name, striving to be more and more youthful and so
on. (page 58)
00解说：莫非我跑步也是由于潜意识对死亡/衰老的恐惧，exercise obsessions
？介个。嗯。
5. The fear of death, that hidden, constant fear that no amount of money or
power can neutralize----this is the core. (page 122)
00解说：如果人可以长生不老，天山童姥的话，会怎样？我想，对我来说，生命
中的大部分痛苦都会消失，比如紧迫感，焦虑感，反正时间有的是，急什么。但是，会
不会感觉很bored?就象小时候放暑假每天为如何打发漫长的一天而叹气。
6. Why do we come back to learn? Why can’t we learn as spirits? Those are
different levels of learning and we must learn some of them in the flesh, we
must feel the pain. When you’re a spirit u feel no pain….. when u r in
physical state, u can experience relationships. (page 124)
00解说：原来来到这个世上的目的真的是来吃苦嘀！OMG!不过，这个观点还是不
错的，来到世间的目的：1，吃苦；2，与他人的互动/关系。从这个角度来说，应该1，
接受苦(accept, 不抗拒不生嗔心)；2，避免“宅”。
7. Super-conscious insight was fascinating, but by itself it was not enough
to transform her life. (page 142)
00解说：嗯，明白。
8. They come only when they want to, not when I choose. (page 148)
00解说：我猜碎碎念还有pray可以看作是一种申诉/申请，让他们来。
9. Nature is balance, nature is energy and life, and restoration. (page 159)
00解说：嗯，老子的观点？和谐中庸？越经历，越明白中庸的利害！但是
restoration是什么？
10. Seven plane (page 172)
11. 1). the value of patience and of waiting; 2). wisdom in the balance of
nature; 3). eradication of fears, esp. the fear of death; 4). the need for
learning about trust and forgiveness; 5). the importance of learning not to
judge others or to halt anyone’s life; 6). the accumulation and use of
intuitive powers;7). we are immortal.(page 173)
12. Some people touch the astral lane by using drugs, but they do not
understand what they have experienced. But they have been allowed to cross
over. (page 186)
00解说：没吸过，也不打算体验，不过猜测状态和禅坐也许有点类似，至少都
是altered conscious state.
13. The rest, what lay in the future, I have to learn thru my own intuition.
(page 196)
14. Death is a natural part of life. (page 208)
15. Wisdom is achieved very slowly. This is becoz intellectual knowledge,
easily acquired, must be transformed into emotional or subconscious
knowledge. Once transformed, the imprint is permanent. Behaviorial practice
is the necessary catalyst of this reaction, without action, the concept will
wither and fade. Theoretical knowledge without practical application is not
enough. (page 209)
00解说：纸上得来终觉浅，绝知此事要躬行。
16. Balance and harming are the foundation of wisdom. (page 209)
17. Happiness is really rooted in simplicity. The tendency to excessiveness
in thought and action diminishes happiness. Excesses cloud basic values. (
page 209)
18. Consider the lessons, intellectually the answers have always been there
but this need to actualize by experience, to make the subconscious imprint
permanent by emotionalizing and practicing the concept is the key. (page 210)
00解说：纸上得来终觉浅，绝知此事要躬行。
19. Memorizing is Sunday school is not good enough. Lip service without the
behavior has no value. It is easy to read about or to talk about love and
charity and faith. But to DO it, to FEEL it, almost required an altered
state of consciousness. Not the transient state induced by drugs, alcohol,
or unexpected emotions. The permanent state is reached by knowledge and
understanding. It is sustained by physical behavior, by act and deed, by
practice. (page 210)
00解说：Knowing is Being. 光知道/明白一个道理是不够的，远远不够，和不
明白不知道没啥太大区别。只有通过行动，活出来，展现出来，才能宣称自己是真懂了
。比如说，我知道可乐不好，但我还是继续喝，那么我的行为就说明了我其实不真的知
道可乐不好。呵呵，事实的真相就是，我觉得可乐每啥不好，我还特别喜欢打气嗝，所
以我还会继续喝。鄙视我吧。行为才是说明who I am.
20. ------How is it that u say all [human being] are equal, yet the obvious
contradictions smack us in the face: inequalities in virtues, temperance,
finances, rights… | s*****l
发帖数: 263 | 14 该书的作者Weiss 多少辈子前已经是耶和华的使者。他这辈子当医生，已具罗汉果位
。他能做到到。其他医生做不到。你连理解都不行。
【在 J******s 的大作中提到】
: 同意，而且我觉得他说他一个星期就可以训练别的医生这种技巧/技术帮助病人回到过
: 去世的。
: 我觉得这个说法有点夸张，回到过去世没有那么容易的。
: 他的治疗方法我觉得不治本的，病人得到的也是心理暗示或者自我安慰居多。
| s*****l
发帖数: 263 | 15 Weiss 是上帝耶和华的先知之一，已经做了很多辈子的先知。为三约圣经从科学的角度
铺路。为轮回被西方人和基督教接受打基础。
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【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】
: 这本书是Dr Brian Weiss记载的一个病人的轮回体验。
: An Intimate Interview with Dr Brian Weiss – Brian L. Weiss
: Posted by hayhouseoz on February 7, 2011 · 6 Comments
: Picture 1
: 1. You have graduated from the University of Columbia and Yale and worked as
: a professor at the University of Miami. Tell us about the transition from a
: professor to a psychotherapist to an author. What made you take up
: psychotherapy?
: I’ve always been interested in the brain and that is why I specialized in
: psychiatry after graduating from Yale University School of Medicine. I was
| S**U
发帖数: 7025 | 16 LOL, 不理解佛法的是你。初果就不会如 Weiss 相信有灵魂，何况阿罗汉。大阿罗汉连
耶和华都要恭敬。
【在 s*****l 的大作中提到】
: 该书的作者Weiss 多少辈子前已经是耶和华的使者。他这辈子当医生，已具罗汉果位
: 。他能做到到。其他医生做不到。你连理解都不行。
| s*****l
发帖数: 263 | 17 耶和华与佛陀同为第九密度原灵。耶和华掌管爱，佛陀掌管法。阿罗汉与绿衣天使近位。
连: 耶和华都要恭敬。
【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: LOL, 不理解佛法的是你。初果就不会如 Weiss 相信有灵魂，何况阿罗汉。大阿罗汉连
: 耶和华都要恭敬。
| S**U
发帖数: 7025 | 18 Tell us which religion this is.
位。
【在 s*****l 的大作中提到】
: 耶和华与佛陀同为第九密度原灵。耶和华掌管爱，佛陀掌管法。阿罗汉与绿衣天使近位。
:
: 连: 耶和华都要恭敬。
| s*****l
发帖数: 263 | 19 seek the truth, do not seek the religion.Religion is the place for truth-
seeker whose understanding are very similar.
【在 S**U 的大作中提到】
: Tell us which religion this is.
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