l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】
发信人: leonana (leonany), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: 证明鬼神神通灵界etc, 有奖金一百万
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 1 16:16:37 2011, 美东)
The One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge
History of the challenge
In 1968, James Randi was working on a radio program with his friend and
parapsychologist Stanley Crypter. During one of the programs, a caller
challenged him to "put his money where his mouth is", and Randi offered $100
of his own money to the first person who could provide objective proof of
the paranormal. Eventually[when?] this grew to $1,000 and then $10,000.
Later, Lexington Broadcasting wanted Randi to do a show called the $100,000
Psychic Prize, so they added $90,000 to the original $10,000 raised by Randi
. Finally, in 1996, one of his friends, Internet pioneer Rick Adams donated
US $1,000,000 for the prize. As the prize fund grew, the rules that surround
claiming the prize became more official and legal.So far, about a thousand
people have taken the challenge, and none have been successful.
To claim, one must agree to a protocol for testing, must show in a
preliminary test before a foundation representative that they are likely to
succeed, and finally make a demonstration in a formal test in front of
independent witnesses.[13] To date, over 1,000 applications have been filed
but no one has passed a preliminary test, which is set up and agreed upon by
both Randi and the applicant.
In the conditions and rules governing the one million U.S.-dollar challenge,
Randi plainly states that both parties (himself and the party accepting the
challenge) must agree in advance as to what conditions of the test
constitute a success and what constitutes a failure. He also refuses to
accept any challengers who might suffer serious injury or death as a result
of the test they intend to undergo.
Dennis Rawlins claimed the challenge is insincere, and that Randi will
ensure he never has to pay out. In the October 1981 issue of Fate, Rawlins
quoted him as saying "I always have an out". Randi has stated that Rawlins
did not give the entire quotation.Randi actually said "Concerning the
challenge, I always have an 'out': I'm right!". Randi states that the phrase
"I always have an out" refers to the fact that he does not allow test
subjects to cheat. On Larry King Live Randi stated that if such phenomena
did exist and someone accurately demonstrated it, he would give them one
million dollars.
On Larry King Live, March 6, 2001, Larry King asked Sylvia Browne if she
would take the challenge and she agreed.Randi appeared with Browne again on
Larry King Live on September 3, 2001 and she again accepted the challenge.
However, she has refused to be tested and Randi keeps a clock on his website
recording the number of weeks that have passed since Sylvia accepted the
challenge without following through. In an appearance on Larry King Live on
January 26, 2007, Randi challenged Rosemary Altea to take the one million
challenge. On Altea and Randi's June 5, 2001 meeting on the same show, Altea
refused to take the challenge, calling it "a trick". Instead Altea, in part
, replied "I agree with what he says, that there are many, many people who
claim to be spiritual mediums, they claim to talk to the dead. There are
many, people, we all know this. There are cheats and charlatans everywhere."
Since April 1, 2007 only those with an already existing media profile and
the backing of a reputable academic are allowed to apply for the challenge.
The resources freed up by not having to test obscure and possibly mentally
ill claimants will then be used to challenge high-profile alleged psychics
and mediums such as Sylvia Browne and John Edward with a campaign in the
media.
On January 4, 2008 it was announced that the prize would be discontinued on
March 6, 2010 in order to free the money for other uses. In the meantime,
claimants were welcome to vie for it. One of the reasons offered for its
discontinuation is the unwillingness of higher-profile claimants to apply.
However, at The Amaz!ng Meeting 7, it was announced that the $1 Million
Challenge prize would not expire in 2010. This was also confirmed in the
July/August issue of Skeptical Inquirer, in which Randi is additionally
quoted as saying: "It was going to terminate... but now it will continue."
The Foundation issued a formal update on its website on July 30, 2009
announcing the Challenge's continuation, and stated more information would
be provided at a later date on any possible changes to the requirements and
procedures.
As an April Fool's prank on April 1, 2008 at the MIT Media Lab Seth Raphael
and James Randi performed a demonstration of Seth Raphael's psychic
abilities which was awarded the prize.
In 2010 D. J. Grothe indicated his further plans to change and expand the
Million Dollar Challenge, including making the application process more
transparent, producing more live challenges, being more aggressive with the
challenge in order to raise awareness about irresponsible pseudoscientific
claims made by institutions, and the like.
On March 8, 2011, the JREF announced that qualifications were being altered
to open the Challenge to more applicants. Whereas applicants were previously
required to submit press clippings and a letter from an academic
institution to qualify, the new rules now require applicants to present
either press clippings, a letter from an academic institution, or a public
video demonstrating their ability. The JREF explained that these new rules
would give people without media or academic documentation a way to be
considered for testing, and would allow the JREF to use online video and
social media to reach a wider audience.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi_Educational_Foundation | d********d 发帖数: 1424 | 2 定义啥是"证明"先。
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【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】 : 【 以下文字转载自 TrustInJesus 讨论区 】 : 发信人: leonana (leonany), 信区: TrustInJesus : 标 题: 证明鬼神神通灵界etc, 有奖金一百万 : 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Sep 1 16:16:37 2011, 美东) : The One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge : History of the challenge : In 1968, James Randi was working on a radio program with his friend and : parapsychologist Stanley Crypter. During one of the programs, a caller : challenged him to "put his money where his mouth is", and Randi offered $100 : of his own money to the first person who could provide objective proof of
| l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 3 就是嘴说了不算,
【在 d********d 的大作中提到】 : 定义啥是"证明"先。 : : 100
| d********d 发帖数: 1424 | 4 手写的算不?
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】 : 就是嘴说了不算,
| b**d 发帖数: 7644 | 5 俺听到的灵异事件,一般都是人传人,连个亲身经历过灵异事件的人口述都没有听到过
,大部分都也是听人说的。 基板那个bhistory的故事就也是听人说的。 | l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 6 老歪编程那种?
【在 d********d 的大作中提到】 : 手写的算不?
| l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 7 怪的是就能信了,这个真有意思
【在 b**d 的大作中提到】 : 俺听到的灵异事件,一般都是人传人,连个亲身经历过灵异事件的人口述都没有听到过 : ,大部分都也是听人说的。 基板那个bhistory的故事就也是听人说的。
| b**d 发帖数: 7644 | 8 其实,我是非常向往这些的,可惜就是从来都没有遇见过,除了做梦的时候。 | Y**u 发帖数: 5466 | 9 不是说什么泻漏了天机要折寿的吗。。。:) 我一直没弄明白这是为什么, 不过如
果是真的, 一百万好像太少了。 | l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 10 这个么,是中国说法吧,再说大师们不是一直在表演神通什么的, 也没看到他们担心
啊,
而拿基督教来讲,喝毒药玩蛇讲天国话治病等圣灵附体的神迹,是可以证实并宣扬耶稣
威名的,估计被证明了可以促使大批人信教,这可是件美事。。。为啥不做呢
【在 Y**u 的大作中提到】 : 不是说什么泻漏了天机要折寿的吗。。。:) 我一直没弄明白这是为什么, 不过如 : 果是真的, 一百万好像太少了。
| | | r****n 发帖数: 8253 | 11
神通是内外道共有,示现神通度人是佛陀明确反对的。
1.由于神通本身和佛法无关,并且内道外道都有,那么示现神通,只是证明存在神通,
无法证明佛法的独特性
2.真正拥有神通的人,对业果法则应该很清楚,对人的贪欲了解应该很清楚,公开示现
出神通,更会促使人的贪婪,而无法带来解脱
3.真正有神通的人,对这小小一百万,根本就没有任何兴趣。如果参加这种公开性的展
示,更会给自己带来种种麻烦。
4,佛法不是追求信众数量,它更在乎的是信众的质量。
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】 : 这个么,是中国说法吧,再说大师们不是一直在表演神通什么的, 也没看到他们担心 : 啊, : 而拿基督教来讲,喝毒药玩蛇讲天国话治病等圣灵附体的神迹,是可以证实并宣扬耶稣 : 威名的,估计被证明了可以促使大批人信教,这可是件美事。。。为啥不做呢
| r****n 发帖数: 8253 | 12 司马南说了。
要得到科学界的共同认可。
所以他的那个东西,纯粹是个噱头。
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】 : 就是嘴说了不算,
| l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 13 说得好像你知道啥叫神通一样
【在 r****n 的大作中提到】 : 司马南说了。 : 要得到科学界的共同认可。 : 所以他的那个东西,纯粹是个噱头。
| d*******r 发帖数: 3875 | 14 我的看法是,真正的智慧是一种个人的体验,而不是可以自由传授的东西,如课堂上的
知识。所以强调个人的投入,修炼.
难以解释的是为什么有些人生而具有这种能力?
【在 b**d 的大作中提到】 : 俺听到的灵异事件,一般都是人传人,连个亲身经历过灵异事件的人口述都没有听到过 : ,大部分都也是听人说的。 基板那个bhistory的故事就也是听人说的。
| r*******c 发帖数: 1060 | 15 我也是这么觉得,而且长这么大还有我周围很要好的人,都从来没见过神通。
------------也许有这种可能性/猜测:人的大脑只是一个接受器,各种能力包括神通
是宇宙中存在的信息,而能不能接受到神通这种信息,和人的大脑这个接收器有关,有
的人天生有神通,可能是这类人的大脑/接收器正好能接收到那个频率的信息,(越说
越囧了,呵呵);而修行的人有神通,可能是因为修行使大脑更加平静开放,易于接收。
所以,难以复制,甚至难以演示,因为演示/表演/展示给他人看,还有追求神通,其实
都是(欲念的)干扰(大脑接收器)。 | l*****a 发帖数: 38403 | 16 。。。
收。
【在 r*******c 的大作中提到】 : 我也是这么觉得,而且长这么大还有我周围很要好的人,都从来没见过神通。 : ------------也许有这种可能性/猜测:人的大脑只是一个接受器,各种能力包括神通 : 是宇宙中存在的信息,而能不能接受到神通这种信息,和人的大脑这个接收器有关,有 : 的人天生有神通,可能是这类人的大脑/接收器正好能接收到那个频率的信息,(越说 : 越囧了,呵呵);而修行的人有神通,可能是因为修行使大脑更加平静开放,易于接收。 : 所以,难以复制,甚至难以演示,因为演示/表演/展示给他人看,还有追求神通,其实 : 都是(欲念的)干扰(大脑接收器)。
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