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s******i
发帖数: 53
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看大家的讨论, 似乎真有那么回事.
能否告诉我你们为什么要学佛? 有什么好处? 目的, 意义何在?
Thanks.
山水
s******i
发帖数: 53
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认真读了两位的话, 仍想知道是否有一个学佛的根本的最终的 "目的" ?
请各位大德不吝指教 !
g********t
发帖数: 58
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I found that I was was happy. First I thought if I know more about life
and the world I would understand myself and the world better and then
I would be happier. Then I read a lot of book by a lot of philosophers
and scholars and I found that though the knew and think a lot they
were clearly unhappy people so it was silly that I should learn to
be happy from them.
Then I studied religions but I just could not have faith no matter
how much of their religious texts the I read. Then I started
read

【在 s******i 的大作中提到】
: 看大家的讨论, 似乎真有那么回事.
: 能否告诉我你们为什么要学佛? 有什么好处? 目的, 意义何在?
: Thanks.
: 山水

g********t
发帖数: 58
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He he, you don't have to like this answer, but this is as good as any other...
Anyway, I always wanted to know the meaning of life even as kid. As i came to
US during high school time it was a difficult time but I was influenced by
some of my American friends who want to know things just for the sake of
knowing (growing up in Hong Kong, kids are more practical and materialistic...)
The lerarning environment in this country fostered my asking why habit.
I am not a super intelligent person so no
q*c
发帖数: 9453
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In my humble point of view,
according the situation and character of J star,
I have a reason to believe that ,
the reason J star did not care "physical"
mostly comes from the fact that, he DID not lack it, haha.
When he becamse a job loser among the many innocents
in my terrible hometown ( maybe all over china)
he definitely will have a very different idea, hehe.
the things I heard in china is terrible,
I will try to write an chinese essay later.
天地不仁,以万物为刍狗。
g********t
发帖数: 58
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J, I think QXC is right, so far your life has not a lot of ups and downs?
Or you have nevr experience the eight kinds of sufferings that Buddha
taught about? 1. to be with someone that you hate. 2. to leave someone that
you love, 3. not able to attain what you desire to have, 4. pains caused by
having this body. and of course the other four sufferings birth, aging,
sickness and death. And there are tens of thousands of minor situations,
peopleand things that cuased us to feel unsatisfied.
Surely
P******a
发帖数: 478
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Sorry for interrupting your discussion. I agree with you that taking away
people's religion forcefully is a cruel thing, but I think the statement
itself 'religion is the opium of the masses' is not far from the truth,
the kind of hard cold truth that is not "pleasurable" and sounds not
"positive" to most people's mind.
What are the similarities between religion and opium?
1) they both give people the feeling of happiness(even ecstasy) and relaxation
2) they both poison people's healthy mind a

【在 g********t 的大作中提到】
: J, I think QXC is right, so far your life has not a lot of ups and downs?
: Or you have nevr experience the eight kinds of sufferings that Buddha
: taught about? 1. to be with someone that you hate. 2. to leave someone that
: you love, 3. not able to attain what you desire to have, 4. pains caused by
: having this body. and of course the other four sufferings birth, aging,
: sickness and death. And there are tens of thousands of minor situations,
: peopleand things that cuased us to feel unsatisfied.
: Surely

g********t
发帖数: 58
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Para, religion is not opium, it is more ape to say religion is poison... But my
honey can be your posion and vice versa... However, to say religion is
opium to completely try to wipe out the benefits of having a religion
for some people, since opium
is adictive and once people get in the habit of using once lose control
one's spirit get lower and lower. However, thru out the ages, b
be it arts, musics, literature, even science and mathematics, or some
extremely selfless acts are accomplished as
P******a
发帖数: 478
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I know many people won't agree with me when I speak out my opinion on
religion, and this sounds not like what a wisdom BM would say. But I
say this just as an ID's personal opinion.
When I say I agree with Marxism's statement of "relgion is opium of the
masses",I do not mean I agree with Marxism's practice of changing the
world and people via violence,and their belief of the religions' origin.
Yes, generally speaking, religious people are kind model citizens and
some of the most talented people

【在 g********t 的大作中提到】
: Para, religion is not opium, it is more ape to say religion is poison... But my
: honey can be your posion and vice versa... However, to say religion is
: opium to completely try to wipe out the benefits of having a religion
: for some people, since opium
: is adictive and once people get in the habit of using once lose control
: one's spirit get lower and lower. However, thru out the ages, b
: be it arts, musics, literature, even science and mathematics, or some
: extremely selfless acts are accomplished as

q*c
发帖数: 9453
10

AS sharp as J star, I am surprised that
he will get such a wrong idea from my post.
I did not read GP's post a lot, but my post
is definitely not the way J think...
I never claim that buddism should be practiced when
you are in poor condition...on the contrary,
if one did so, I have a reason to question his
intention. To me, at least it is not the reason.
I just comment on J personally, that HE ( J star)
DID NOT CARE PHYSICAL A LOT comes from good life....
due to my estimation of him. Right or
g********t
发帖数: 58
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Yes, Para, I think I understand you better now. In this case, it might be better
to call religion the pain killer (aspirin, etc) of the masses. It doesn't
stop them from feeling pain in the future since the cause of sufferings
is not understood and got rid of of, but it help themem not felling the
pain right this minute. Life become less unbearable to some as a
person put his/her faith in God or a Kuan Yin Pusa...
The opium of the masses catch phrase was what Marxist used to justify their
radi
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