g****y
发帖数: 323 | 1 “真正的英雄决不是永没有卑下的情操，只是永不被卑下的情操所屈
服罢了。”
我对于olla的话的解读
1.英雄不是完美的
2.不要抛弃对一个人的希望。要做英雄，就要先同自己身上卑劣的情
操作斗争。
尤其是2，这句话并没有说如果你摆脱了卑劣的情操，你就是英雄了
。恰恰相反，这只是第一步。然而没有这一步，是不可能成为英雄的
。
假如以你的妓女从良的例子，默认出卖肉体是卑劣的情操。那么这个
妓女从良，只是走向了她摆脱出卖肉体的卑劣情操的第一步，还远不
能称为英雄。至于烈女这样的称号是不是英雄称号，这是第一个疑问
。假使是，第二就是烈女的评选标准，如果有过出卖肉体前科的不予
考虑，那么无论这个人做什么，无疑她（他）是拿不到这个英雄称号
了。但是是不是她（他）就不能做英雄了呢？绝对不是。我们在她（
他）做出了英雄事迹后是不是仍然漠视她（他），仅仅因为她的过去
呢？也不是。
我想，英雄，是要被人承认的，然而情操只不过是自己的道德，别人
看不见，摸不着。只有你做的事，才为众人做目睹，才能成为大家评
价的依据。假如是英雄，必然有英雄的事迹。当他为常人所不为，为
常人所畏为，她（他）的事为人所崇拜，这 | g****y
发帖数: 323 | 2 I do think we can only "judge" the people by what he did.
I do not care to much about his/her moral or
personality. If he or she did a great thing,
either intentedly or without any intention to do so,
he or she can be praised.
If you take hero as a personal thing, which does not
require recognization,, then your hero and mine
are quite diffferent in defination. I also think
people needs recognization.
The reason I do not want to judge the others by their
personality is that I do not want to ima | i*e
发帖数: 859 | 3
i agree very much on your point. there's no way we can know how a
person really thinks, only his behavior is seen and we interpret
him based on what we observe. we don't have confliction on this.
however, what i was saying in the previous post is specific for
a certain context, very different from yours. i was simply telling
what i understood about this quotaion. i'm talking about heroism,
which, in the literature, emphasizes more on the personality,
and how this personality struggled with life
【在 g****y 的大作中提到】
: I do think we can only "judge" the people by what he did.
: I do not care to much about his/her moral or
: personality. If he or she did a great thing,
: either intentedly or without any intention to do so,
: he or she can be praised.
: If you take hero as a personal thing, which does not
: require recognization,, then your hero and mine
: are quite diffferent in defination. I also think
: people needs recognization.
: The reason I do not want to judge the others by their
| U***n
发帖数: 38 | 4
//nod, nod
Ally McBeal有一集里Lucy Liu在证人席上preach说女性在这个男权社会是如何受压抑等等，
退庭后Ally大大感叹说“She(Ling, 就是Lucy Liu)is my hero! Althought she treats
me like dirt, but she is my hero today!”所谓英雄也可以只是针对某一件事或在某一
段时间。美国的Reader's Digest有个专栏叫Heroes for today(不知现在还有没有)。里面
的英雄都是完人吗？不见得吧。在人成长的某段时间可能会更容易被有某种特点的“事迹”
打动，但过了这段时间，对生活有新的认识，想法可能又会改变。我小时候还觉得我爸妈
就是世界上最好的人呢，后来经过一个“英雄幻灭”的过程，发现他们也都只是普普通通
的凡人。“英雄”这个概念我觉得主要是个主观的概念，跟具体的心理状态有关，想找到
什么放之四海而皆准的全面概括的定义恐怕是不大可能的吧。
【在 i*e 的大作中提到】
:
: i agree very much on your point. there's no way we can know how a
: person really thinks, only his behavior is seen and we interpret
: him based on what we observe. we don't have confliction on this.
: however, what i was saying in the previous post is specific for
: a certain context, very different from yours. i was simply telling
: what i understood about this quotaion. i'm talking about heroism,
: which, in the literature, emphasizes more on the personality,
: and how this personality struggled with life
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