a***o
发帖数: 87 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 PKU 讨论区,原文如下 】
发信人: Aqiao (樵子), 信区: PKU
标 题: 葬礼上的演说——献给遇难的登山勇士
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Wed Aug 14 15:24:27 2002), 转信
发信人: bambi (动脑筋爷爷), 信区: Triangle
标 题: 葬礼上的演说——献给遇难的登山勇士
发信站: 北大未名站 (2002年08月14日22:03:34 星期三) , 站内信件
（谨以伯里克利的这篇演说，献给我们的登山勇士，表达我的敬意和哀悼之情）
葬礼上的演说
（雅典）伯里克利
过去许多在此地说过话的人，总是赞美我们在葬礼将完时发表演说的这种制度
。在他们看来，对于阵亡将士发表演说似乎是对阵亡战士一种光荣的表示。这一点
，我不同意。我认为，这些在行动中表现自己勇敢的人，在行动中就充分宣布他们
的光荣了，正如你们刚才从这次国葬典礼中所看见的一样。我们相信，这许多人的
勇敢和英雄气概毫不因为一个人对他们说好或说歹而有所变更。
首先我要说到我们的祖先们，因为在这样的典礼上，回忆他们所作的，以表示
对 | a***o
发帖数: 87 | 2 en, so what you don't agree is only that they should be more considerate
on their own lives, and on their decisions. Hm, I think generally what you
said makes sense, bu firstly, people are different. you can not expect
anyone in this world are cautious enough to satisfy everyone he knows
as well as his dear mother country, if he still have some spare time to
do something for himself. Yes, that kid borrowed so much money for
whatever reason, which is quite usuaral for a college student from rural | a***o
发帖数: 87 | 3 Something moral is that it serves the interest of all people best, and
make them happier than before.
Something sensible is that it is right in a scientific view, i.e., if you act
like this, the result will be optimal under some standard, whether it's
a personal standard or not.. | i*e
发帖数: 859 | 4 are you saying that "risking their lives and hurting their parents"
is immoral or nonsense or what? do you really group your family
as someone not of your own interest? i think you missed my point here.
it's not just any other people, it's your family. you shall have a
good sense of what to do or what not to do to your family. and i won't
call that a moral issue.
【在 a***o 的大作中提到】
: Something moral is that it serves the interest of all people best, and
: make them happier than before.
: Something sensible is that it is right in a scientific view, i.e., if you act
: like this, the result will be optimal under some standard, whether it's
: a personal standard or not..
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