p**s
发帖数: 408 | 1 最近发现honda又要推出crz了，看着样子真不错，还有insight,prius, leaf各种全电
动和hybrid的车似乎都是美日车厂的
发展方向，subaru好像也要hybrid 了。不知到现在技术真的已经趋于成熟了吗？这些
大众车的价钱也越来越趋于合理，但
是高性能车似乎只有tesla. |
u*******n
发帖数: 158 | 2 最多考虑杂种车
全电动决不会考虑
range anxiety |
T********e
发帖数: 8631 | 3 才发现狗日杂种比菜油差远了。BMW 520d,184hp, 62mpg highway！ |
N******p
发帖数: 2777 | 4 你说的是imperial gallon吧。美国mpg应该在50左右。不过已经很好了。
【在 T********e 的大作中提到】
: 才发现狗日杂种比菜油差远了。BMW 520d,184hp, 62mpg highway！
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w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 5 we wouldn't have ICE if you think how much power the early ones put out
compared to a real horse at the time. high density energy storage will come
along.
【在 u*******n 的大作中提到】
: 最多考虑杂种车
: 全电动决不会考虑
: range anxiety
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T********e
发帖数: 8631 | 6 You are right, about 51mpg in US. But 520d has 100% more torque, 30% more
horse power, 20% heavier (sturdier), a foot and half longer and half foot
wider.
Wish they start selling it here soon. |
N******p
发帖数: 2777 | 7 美国的油价至少得翻一番这个车在这才能卖得出去。
【在 T********e 的大作中提到】
: You are right, about 51mpg in US. But 520d has 100% more torque, 30% more
: horse power, 20% heavier (sturdier), a foot and half longer and half foot
: wider.
: Wish they start selling it here soon.
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t*a
发帖数: 18880 | 8 油价x2 柴油恐怕...
more
foot
【在 N******p 的大作中提到】
: 美国的油价至少得翻一番这个车在这才能卖得出去。
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p****n
发帖数: 9263 | 9 than what?
【在 T********e 的大作中提到】
: You are right, about 51mpg in US. But 520d has 100% more torque, 30% more
: horse power, 20% heavier (sturdier), a foot and half longer and half foot
: wider.
: Wish they start selling it here soon.
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a*********g
发帖数: 2853 | 10 我一直很怀疑Porsche 918 Spyder的78mpg是怎么测出来的，就算英国的gallon大一点换
到美国也得60左右了吧。它是一个500+hp的汽油机再加三个小电动机，这个大小的汽油
机能有30mpg已经很牛了，就刹车那两下能量能double mpg吗？highly doubt it。不管
怎样，这是我现在的dream car
【在 N******p 的大作中提到】
: 你说的是imperial gallon吧。美国mpg应该在50左右。不过已经很好了。
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w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 11 at that price point porsche can afford the best of everything, including the
highest energy density batteries. and the drag is low, you know.
点换
【在 a*********g 的大作中提到】
: 我一直很怀疑Porsche 918 Spyder的78mpg是怎么测出来的，就算英国的gallon大一点换
: 到美国也得60左右了吧。它是一个500+hp的汽油机再加三个小电动机，这个大小的汽油
: 机能有30mpg已经很牛了，就刹车那两下能量能double mpg吗？highly doubt it。不管
: 怎样，这是我现在的dream car
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a*********g
发帖数: 2853 | 12 The range on the battery is only about 50 miles, I highly doubt what "high d
ensity" battery it is using. Whatever the best, it is a performance car, and
big engines burn a lot of gas, and physics still applies.
the
【在 w******x 的大作中提到】
: at that price point porsche can afford the best of everything, including the
: highest energy density batteries. and the drag is low, you know.
:
: 点换
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N******p
发帖数: 2777 | 13 我看报道上说
Says Wolfgang Dürheimer, board member in charge of R&D: “This car can lap
the Nürburgring faster than the Carrera GT. At the same time, it averages
78 mpg [on the EU driving cycle] when driven gently...."
估计这个EU cycle能全靠电池开下来的话，可能能达到78 equivalent mpg （相当于发
动机在效率最高的工作点发同样多的电所需的耗油量）。
点换
【在 a*********g 的大作中提到】
: 我一直很怀疑Porsche 918 Spyder的78mpg是怎么测出来的，就算英国的gallon大一点换
: 到美国也得60左右了吧。它是一个500+hp的汽油机再加三个小电动机，这个大小的汽油
: 机能有30mpg已经很牛了，就刹车那两下能量能double mpg吗？highly doubt it。不管
: 怎样，这是我现在的dream car
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a*********g
发帖数: 2853 | 14 But that battery lasts less than 50 miles, on a full charge. It's not like y
ou can recharge it every time battery drains.
lap
【在 N******p 的大作中提到】
: 我看报道上说
: Says Wolfgang Dürheimer, board member in charge of R&D: “This car can lap
: the Nürburgring faster than the Carrera GT. At the same time, it averages
: 78 mpg [on the EU driving cycle] when driven gently...."
: 估计这个EU cycle能全靠电池开下来的话，可能能达到78 equivalent mpg （相当于发
: 动机在效率最高的工作点发同样多的电所需的耗油量）。
:
: 点换
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a*********g
发帖数: 2853 | 15 "The E-Drive mode means pure electric power, and the car can reportedly last
up to 16 miles on electrons alone."
That means you can get 78mpg for 16 miles... what a joke!
y
【在 a*********g 的大作中提到】
: But that battery lasts less than 50 miles, on a full charge. It's not like y
: ou can recharge it every time battery drains.
:
: lap
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w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 16 of course the energy density of the batteries matter. batteries need to
carry themselves. the e-only range is pretty much decided by how much extra
weight the batteries can lug around. hybrids have an extra engine and a gas
tank to cram into the chassis and that's extra baggage for the batteries
while taking up battery space.
d
and
【在 a*********g 的大作中提到】
: The range on the battery is only about 50 miles, I highly doubt what "high d
: ensity" battery it is using. Whatever the best, it is a performance car, and
: big engines burn a lot of gas, and physics still applies.
:
: the
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T********e
发帖数: 8631 | 17 Than Prius.
And this is before the new BMW dynamic efficiency stuff.
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: than what?
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