d******g
发帖数: 6966 | 1 排名最后，排在focus st后面...说是质量问题很严重,刹车踏板调节马达坏掉卡住刹车
踏板,固定椅子的bolt松动,前后轮胎型号不一样等等.
12th Place: SRT Viper
Heavy Lies the Crown You have two questions: Why didn't we test the Viper T/
A, and why is the Laguna Seca lap record-holder in last place? The first is
easy to answer. We asked SRT for the Viper T/A, and the guys decided to send
us the base SRT Viper with the Track Package instead. Why? We haven't
gotten a straight answer from the SRT people, so we can't say.
The second question can be answered mostly with one word: quality. This
Viper had a number of mechanical issues that sank it in voting. Key among
these was a serious brake problem. During figure-eight testing, one of the
motors that moves the adjustable pedals broke off under braking and jammed
the brake pedal to the floor. Thankfully, the figure-eight course is a
controlled environment, but had this happened during road testing or lapping
at Laguna Seca, the results could've been bad. Couple that with the fact
that two of the four bolts holding the driver's seat to the car were not
even finger-tight, and we had a serious safety issue. 2013 SRT Viper Front
End In Motion
2013 SRT Viper Front Three Quarters 2013 SRT Viper Side 2013 SRT Viper Rear
Three Quarters
There were other problems, too. One of the hood vents flew off on the
freeway and caromed off the windshield. There was a persistent rattle in the
right side of the cabin that was never identified. The Performance Apps
froze the infotainment system. The paint on the edges of the rocker panels
was being burned by the exhaust. Finally, the Viper arrived mounted with
standard Pirelli P Zeros on the front and P Zero Corsas on the rear.
Set aside these issues, and the story is marginally better: Judges had
originally placed the Viper in eighth. Many complained about an
uncomfortable driving position and narrow footwell with closely spaced
pedals that were easy to misapply. The shifter drew ire for needing a very
strong shove to get into the next ratio, and the word "earplugs" appeared in
many judges' notes. Far and away the Viper's biggest fault, though, was how
it communicated with the driver. While the nose was always stapled to the
pavement, the rear end liked to do all sorts of funny dances when you lifted
off the throttle and went to the brakes. That's disconcerting in a 640-
horsepower car, to say the least, but what makes it truly frustrating is the
car is lying to you. The back end isn't going anywhere. It's glued down
nearly as well as the nose is, but the car is telling you it's about to come
loose and fling you off the road. You have to constantly remind yourself
the car will stick, and ignore what every sense is telling you. "That
Viper generates a lot of g's," says Randy Pobst. "In every direction. It
accelerates hard. It stops hard. It corners hard. And most of the things it
does are quite sudden, and it is a full-attention car to drive. You have to
be on the ball, on top of that car all the time." At 1:36.43, this Viper was
the slowest we've ever tested at Laguna Seca, partly because SRT sent a
worn-out set of P Zero Corsas for lapping and partly because it rattled
Randy by getting loose at the crest of Turn 1 at nearly 140 mph. "I broke a
sweat driving fast in the car today," he said. Some people think it's manly
to wrestle a car around a corner, but to quote editor-at-large Angus
MacKenzie, "I've never met a race car driver who wanted to fight a car
around the track."
http://www.motortrend.com/features/performance/1311
_2013_motor_trend_best_drivers_car/viewall.html |
c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 2 太悲催了……让我想起Lambo至少在两个测试里断档杆……
T/
is
send
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】
: 排名最后，排在focus st后面...说是质量问题很严重,刹车踏板调节马达坏掉卡住刹车
: 踏板,固定椅子的bolt松动,前后轮胎型号不一样等等.
: 12th Place: SRT Viper
: Heavy Lies the Crown You have two questions: Why didn't we test the Viper T/
: A, and why is the Laguna Seca lap record-holder in last place? The first is
: easy to answer. We asked SRT for the Viper T/A, and the guys decided to send
: us the base SRT Viper with the Track Package instead. Why? We haven't
: gotten a straight answer from the SRT people, so we can't say.
: The second question can be answered mostly with one word: quality. This
: Viper had a number of mechanical issues that sank it in voting. Key among
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s*******e
发帖数: 1298 | 3 这是怎么搞的呢？？这种质量问题很毁image呀
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: 太悲催了……让我想起Lambo至少在两个测试里断档杆……
:
: T/
: is
: send
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 4 Lambo那个是设计坑爹，档杆细长得跟面条一样，光图样子了……
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 这是怎么搞的呢？？这种质量问题很毁image呀
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s*******e
发帖数: 1298 | 5 这个。。。工业设计也得稍微考虑一下机械性能呀。。。
可能觉得不是什么主要受力件瞎装上一个就得了： ）
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: Lambo那个是设计坑爹，档杆细长得跟面条一样，光图样子了……
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 6 样子在Lambo的价值体系里排位较高吧……
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 这个。。。工业设计也得稍微考虑一下机械性能呀。。。
: 可能觉得不是什么主要受力件瞎装上一个就得了： ）
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i****x
发帖数: 17565 | 7 巨大的悲剧，我觉得chrysler要sue mt了 |
c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 8 MT貌似和新Viper颇有缘分，先是拿Viper和ZR1比了一回，比不过，那时候就把SRT批评
了一番
然后SRT反应神速，搞了个TA出来，重新刷了Laguna Seca的记录
然后又闹了这事……不过我估计质量问题是真实的，从霸王的SRT8也可见一斑
这是真让人扫兴，我之前还想Chrysler质量不靠谱但SRT怎么也得比普通的车型强吧……
【在 i****x 的大作中提到】
: 巨大的悲剧，我觉得chrysler要sue mt了
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d******g
发帖数: 6966 | 9 srt估计因为跑上来那个viper vs. zr1和MT结怨了...
话说这个best driver's car里，另外一个输家是bmw, m6竟然排在continental gt之后
……
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: MT貌似和新Viper颇有缘分，先是拿Viper和ZR1比了一回，比不过，那时候就把SRT批评
: 了一番
: 然后SRT反应神速，搞了个TA出来，重新刷了Laguna Seca的记录
: 然后又闹了这事……不过我估计质量问题是真实的，从霸王的SRT8也可见一斑
: 这是真让人扫兴，我之前还想Chrysler质量不靠谱但SRT怎么也得比普通的车型强吧……
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 10 MT也搞笑，拿Continental来凑什么热闹哦……
M6的排名也是低的让人惊讶，其实圈速还凑合了
F-TYPE排名有点高，看Randy的评价不怎么样啊……
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】
: srt估计因为跑上来那个viper vs. zr1和MT结怨了...
: 话说这个best driver's car里，另外一个输家是bmw, m6竟然排在continental gt之后
:
: ……
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s***i
发帖数: 10182 | 11 而且GTR年年都来刷圈速羞辱super car啊。。。
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: MT也搞笑，拿Continental来凑什么热闹哦……
: M6的排名也是低的让人惊讶，其实圈速还凑合了
: F-TYPE排名有点高，看Randy的评价不怎么样啊……
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d******g
发帖数: 6966 | 12 恩, 看了视频感觉randy对m6和f-type评价差不多, 都是说oversteer开始得太突然,最
后排名差那么多应该是其他人的投票造成的.
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: MT也搞笑，拿Continental来凑什么热闹哦……
: M6的排名也是低的让人惊讶，其实圈速还凑合了
: F-TYPE排名有点高，看Randy的评价不怎么样啊……
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 13 今年的GT-R TRACK跑得一般哦
其实说起来，ZR1、Viper这些也是和GT-R价位差不多的车了，不是还比GT-R更快么……
【在 s***i 的大作中提到】
: 而且GTR年年都来刷圈速羞辱super car啊。。。
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 14 不过R8 V10 plus不知道怎么搞的，夸了半天我还以为多快的车呢
搞了半天才比911 C4S快一点而已……凭什么排名那么高呢？
【在 s***i 的大作中提到】
: 而且GTR年年都来刷圈速羞辱super car啊。。。
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V***b
发帖数: 3419 | 15 非常公平啊，和我排名差不多，我的排名是这样：
1. Porsche 911 Carrera 4S
2. Audi R8 V10+
3. Porsche Cayman S
4-10. 随便排，一堆没有灵感，old-school的货色
11. Ford Focus ST
12. SRT Viper
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: 不过R8 V10 plus不知道怎么搞的，夸了半天我还以为多快的车呢
: 搞了半天才比911 C4S快一点而已……凭什么排名那么高呢？
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 16 SLS BS很强啊，排不进前三？
【在 V***b 的大作中提到】
: 非常公平啊，和我排名差不多，我的排名是这样：
: 1. Porsche 911 Carrera 4S
: 2. Audi R8 V10+
: 3. Porsche Cayman S
: 4-10. 随便排，一堆没有灵感，old-school的货色
: 11. Ford Focus ST
: 12. SRT Viper
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V***b
发帖数: 3419 | 17 鼻子太长是个硬伤，
M159是个亮点，
从GT到Black的提升基本靠砸钱，
太hardcore, 天天跑track还行，
而且在Black的价位空间上有Ferrari F12, Ferrari 458, McLaren MP4-12C,
Lamborghini Gallardo, 所以从driver's car的角度讲Black还差点。
SLS ElectricDrive的话可以进前三。
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: SLS BS很强啊，排不进前三？
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 18 SLS BS都不行的话，ED更不行了……那个纯电车首先重的要死了……
【在 V***b 的大作中提到】
: 鼻子太长是个硬伤，
: M159是个亮点，
: 从GT到Black的提升基本靠砸钱，
: 太hardcore, 天天跑track还行，
: 而且在Black的价位空间上有Ferrari F12, Ferrari 458, McLaren MP4-12C,
: Lamborghini Gallardo, 所以从driver's car的角度讲Black还差点。
: SLS ElectricDrive的话可以进前三。
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d******g
发帖数: 6966 | 19 一年一度的drag race来了
http://www.motortrend.com/features/performance
/1308_worlds_greatest_drag_race_3/
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: SLS BS都不行的话，ED更不行了……那个纯电车首先重的要死了……
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e**n
发帖数: 1326 | 20 嗯，
viper我是觉得就算刹车不出问题排名也不会太高，这车对驾驶员要求太高。更像是
racer's car而不是driver's car...
why Cayman over 911？ 性能？
【在 V***b 的大作中提到】
: 非常公平啊，和我排名差不多，我的排名是这样：
: 1. Porsche 911 Carrera 4S
: 2. Audi R8 V10+
: 3. Porsche Cayman S
: 4-10. 随便排，一堆没有灵感，old-school的货色
: 11. Ford Focus ST
: 12. SRT Viper
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V***b
发帖数: 3419 | 21 Cayman S 和 911 Carrera S 我会选 Cayman S，
Cayman S 和 911 Carrera 4S 我会选 911 Carrera 4S，
因为 911 Carrera 4S 纵向 traction，横向 grip 都更好，对under / oversteer 的
修正也是顶级的。下一代 R8 V10 将超越 4S。
【在 e**n 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，
: viper我是觉得就算刹车不出问题排名也不会太高，这车对驾驶员要求太高。更像是
: racer's car而不是driver's car...
: why Cayman over 911？ 性能？
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h****y
发帖数: 9234 | 22 看过一些比较cayman和911的, 很多的都是说cayman的中置布局使它在操控上要胜出一些
吧,而且车更轻/小一点,开起来乐趣肯定更大一点
保时捷为了保持911的地位肯定是要限制cayman的性能的.马力和加速上911 s还是要比
cayman s强一大截
而且911有后排, 对于有家有小孩的来说实用性强太多啊.
【在 e**n 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，
: viper我是觉得就算刹车不出问题排名也不会太高，这车对驾驶员要求太高。更像是
: racer's car而不是driver's car...
: why Cayman over 911？ 性能？
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V***b
发帖数: 3419 | 23 声线排名：
1. Porsche 911 Carrera 4S
2. Porsche Cayman S
3. Jaguar F-Type V-8 S
4. Aston Martin Vanquish
5. Audi R8 V10+
6. Ford Focus ST
7. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Black Series
8. SRT Viper
9. Bentley Continental GT Speed Le Mans Edition
10. Nissan GT-R Track Edition
11. BMW M6
12. Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG S Model
【在 d******g 的大作中提到】
: 一年一度的drag race来了
: http://www.motortrend.com/features/performance
: /1308_worlds_greatest_drag_race_3/
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z**n
发帖数: 22303 | 24 GT-R座位整整多了一倍啊。
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: 今年的GT-R TRACK跑得一般哦
: 其实说起来，ZR1、Viper这些也是和GT-R价位差不多的车了，不是还比GT-R更快么……
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 25 GT-R TRACK是2-seater啊
【在 z**n 的大作中提到】
: GT-R座位整整多了一倍啊。
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