y***y
发帖数: 4957 | 1 昨天去看的，音乐不错，就是太大声。第一段布道也不错，很多人响应呼招，走到前面
。（不过我私下怀疑很多人已经信主，只是表达一个心愿。）
第二段时鼓励大家奉献，竟然说神要寻找忠心的人，这些人在5年之内个人经济有个大
改变，一天之内，会有很多的财富转移过来。他引用的是创世纪预言以色列民服侍埃及
人400年，但在一天之内，埃及的财富都转移到以色列人的手中了。这位老兄反复强调
一天，一天，财富就会转移到你这里。然后为了证明你的忠心，现在请奉献吧！他相信
他说的话是先知性的，我觉得难以接受阿。。赫赫，这不是明摆着鼓励不劳而获的思想
吗！把神当摇钱树了？
第三段是医治，应用的经文是Jesus heals all. 所以人人都能被医治，只有你有信心
。疾病是神的敌人，所以神要治疗一切的人。不被医治就是因为信心不够了。 对我这
种福音派背景的人，这种论调太经不起考证了！有趣的是，接下来的确有人好像被医治
了。坐轮椅的站起来了， asthma的好了，可以到处跑，还有个去伊拉克打仗落下病残
的也好了，可以跑步了。
大家怎么看？他真的有医治的恩赐？可是这个经文解释的不对啊！ |
q*******s
发帖数: 193 | 2 I have seen it many times on TV. There were many things written about him
online -- mainly saying that he is a gold-digger, based on the
investigations into his financial situation.
But you said well here -- 把神当摇钱树了:
Does he teach people the right things to do (such as obeying commandments),
or does he give promises in exchange for money?
If people were healed during the meeting, I believe they were healed by their own faith in Jesus. Not because of Benny Hinn.
第二段时鼓励大家奉献，竟然说神要寻找忠心的人，这
【在 y***y 的大作中提到】
: 昨天去看的，音乐不错，就是太大声。第一段布道也不错，很多人响应呼招，走到前面
: 。（不过我私下怀疑很多人已经信主，只是表达一个心愿。）
: 第二段时鼓励大家奉献，竟然说神要寻找忠心的人，这些人在5年之内个人经济有个大
: 改变，一天之内，会有很多的财富转移过来。他引用的是创世纪预言以色列民服侍埃及
: 人400年，但在一天之内，埃及的财富都转移到以色列人的手中了。这位老兄反复强调
: 一天，一天，财富就会转移到你这里。然后为了证明你的忠心，现在请奉献吧！他相信
: 他说的话是先知性的，我觉得难以接受阿。。赫赫，这不是明摆着鼓励不劳而获的思想
: 吗！把神当摇钱树了？
: 第三段是医治，应用的经文是Jesus heals all. 所以人人都能被医治，只有你有信心
: 。疾病是神的敌人，所以神要治疗一切的人。不被医治就是因为信心不够了。 对我这
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q*******s
发帖数: 193 | 3 Also, it is incorrect to say "不被医治就是因为信心不够了" God has his own
ways and his own timing.
Sometimes christians have ailments for a long time because God wants to use
them as an example to the world of how christians can battle ailments with
joy, hope, patience, and courage. My grandma was such an example --
despite the fact that she couldn't get out of bed for over 15 years, her
faith in God never waivered, and she always cheered everyone up instead of
needing us to cheer her up. Many fri
【在 y***y 的大作中提到】
: 昨天去看的，音乐不错，就是太大声。第一段布道也不错，很多人响应呼招，走到前面
: 。（不过我私下怀疑很多人已经信主，只是表达一个心愿。）
: 第二段时鼓励大家奉献，竟然说神要寻找忠心的人，这些人在5年之内个人经济有个大
: 改变，一天之内，会有很多的财富转移过来。他引用的是创世纪预言以色列民服侍埃及
: 人400年，但在一天之内，埃及的财富都转移到以色列人的手中了。这位老兄反复强调
: 一天，一天，财富就会转移到你这里。然后为了证明你的忠心，现在请奉献吧！他相信
: 他说的话是先知性的，我觉得难以接受阿。。赫赫，这不是明摆着鼓励不劳而获的思想
: 吗！把神当摇钱树了？
: 第三段是医治，应用的经文是Jesus heals all. 所以人人都能被医治，只有你有信心
: 。疾病是神的敌人，所以神要治疗一切的人。不被医治就是因为信心不够了。 对我这
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c****y
发帖数: 829 | 4 完全同意， 其实看福音书就很清楚，有时候耶稣治病会说，你的信心救了你，但多数
时候，耶稣实行医治，圣经记载耶稣动了慈心，所以完全是神的怜悯和恩典。
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【在 q*******s 的大作中提到】
: Also, it is incorrect to say "不被医治就是因为信心不够了" God has his own
: ways and his own timing.
: Sometimes christians have ailments for a long time because God wants to use
: them as an example to the world of how christians can battle ailments with
: joy, hope, patience, and courage. My grandma was such an example --
: despite the fact that she couldn't get out of bed for over 15 years, her
: faith in God never waivered, and she always cheered everyone up instead of
: needing us to cheer her up. Many fri
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q*******s
发帖数: 193 | 5 Some criticism regarding Benny Hinn from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Hinn
In March 2005, Ministry Watch, an independent evangelical organization which
reviews Christian ministries for financial transparency and efficiency and
advises potential donors accordingly, issued a Donor Alert stating that "the
reported exorbitant spending of the Hinn family reveals that BHM has far
more money than it needs to carry out its ministry" and advising Christians
to "prayerfully consider with |
g******s
发帖数: 3056 | 6 He will face the judgement in the future.
CBS once had this in the 60 minutes.
It disclosed that Benny Hinn is a liar and a scammer. That made my wife and
I sad. That is a shame to Christians.
He has luxious life style and once he gave more than 300 tip in a restraunt. |
y***y
发帖数: 4957 | 7 thanks for sharing!!
客观的说，他号召大家捐钱的手段太拙劣了，真不知道怎么能骗那么多人。另外，灵恩
派的教会好像看他很正面，难道他们真是一点怀疑都没有？赫赫。上帝为什么要用这样
一个人呢？显然在他会上的医治的人要比福音派教会里得医治的人多得多，会不会他们
都是假装的？这个工程就太浩大了！：） |
g******s
发帖数: 3056 | 8 The problem is he cheats. He is a liar.
Those people cured were not truly cured. They are all scammers.
He arranged those false healings! That was disclosed by CBS.
He is really a shame of all the Christians. |
q*******s
发帖数: 193 | 9 As I quoted from wikipedia, he probably did not heal as many people as he
claimed. He falsified data.
" According to the show the seriously disabled who attend his healings are
interviewed and then weeded out from ever getting the chance to come on
stage. Instead, those who have minor injuries are brought up in their place.
Benny Hinn claims proof from the faithful's doctors that healings have been
successful. However according to the show none of these doctor notes have
ever been produced as e
【在 y***y 的大作中提到】
: thanks for sharing!!
: 客观的说，他号召大家捐钱的手段太拙劣了，真不知道怎么能骗那么多人。另外，灵恩
: 派的教会好像看他很正面，难道他们真是一点怀疑都没有？赫赫。上帝为什么要用这样
: 一个人呢？显然在他会上的医治的人要比福音派教会里得医治的人多得多，会不会他们
: 都是假装的？这个工程就太浩大了！：）
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g******s
发帖数: 3056 | 10 Watch the NBC program and you will know everything about this liar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUyPjeIFKug
Also, you can google Benny Hinn scam. |
