d***e 发帖数: 710 | 1 on filmmaking
seems to me that the only difference is that everything is shot
on digital media instead of actual film.
why is that important? because it saves a lot of money? |
a*****i 发帖数: 4391 | 2 Actually, ....
it makes porn video more watchable.
【在 d***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : on filmmaking : seems to me that the only difference is that everything is shot : on digital media instead of actual film. : why is that important? because it saves a lot of money?
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g***u 发帖数: 13 | 3 So that everybody can shoot films now instead of a
small portion of people.
And I guess the long term consequence is that there will be
too many films, you will never be able to pick up the right
one. Also it will make it harder for someone's work
to be noticed by others.
【在 d***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : on filmmaking : seems to me that the only difference is that everything is shot : on digital media instead of actual film. : why is that important? because it saves a lot of money?
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b****n 发帖数: 865 | 4 从传统录音到数码录音有什么意义?
编辑更容易,存储传输更方便,影院画质更保真清晰。
【在 d***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : on filmmaking : seems to me that the only difference is that everything is shot : on digital media instead of actual film. : why is that important? because it saves a lot of money?
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a*****i 发帖数: 4391 | 5
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错了.数字存储是肯定没有原始材料存储来的"清晰"的.
有人看过SW II的数字版,评论说是惨不忍睹.想想看record
还是比CD效果好.
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 从传统录音到数码录音有什么意义? : 编辑更容易,存储传输更方便,影院画质更保真清晰。
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b****n 发帖数: 865 | 6 搞错了吧?Ebert特地同时比较两个,说数字的好多了。
【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ : 错了.数字存储是肯定没有原始材料存储来的"清晰"的. : 有人看过SW II的数字版,评论说是惨不忍睹.想想看record : 还是比CD效果好.
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a*****i 发帖数: 4391 | 7 Ebert的话你也信? @@
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 搞错了吧?Ebert特地同时比较两个,说数字的好多了。
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b****n 发帖数: 865 | 8 这又不是艺术评论,清晰度总还是分得出来的吧。
【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Ebert的话你也信? @@
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d***e 发帖数: 710 | 9 I didn't question the benefit of digitalization.
I was just wondering about its impact on filmmaking itself.
for example i don't see a big revolution in music composition
since digital recording dominates. do you?
i guess guoyu answered my question.
I would hate it if there are too many movies
out there...bad filmmakers should be put in prison for
wasting other people's lives
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 从传统录音到数码录音有什么意义? : 编辑更容易,存储传输更方便,影院画质更保真清晰。
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a*****i 发帖数: 4391 | 10 真正的filmmaker现在还不是用digicam去拍电影儿的吧?
除了porno.
【在 d***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I didn't question the benefit of digitalization. : I was just wondering about its impact on filmmaking itself. : for example i don't see a big revolution in music composition : since digital recording dominates. do you? : i guess guoyu answered my question. : I would hate it if there are too many movies : out there...bad filmmakers should be put in prison for : wasting other people's lives
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d***e 发帖数: 710 | 11 i think we have some...
i had this question from reading the article
about 贾樟柯 in Ghana. The jury thought his
new film shot in DV is of top quality.
and the new "italian for beginners" was definitely
shot on DV
anyway, who would you call a 真正的filmmaker
i guess by your definition it's gonna be somebody
who uses really expensive equipments, not a cheap
DV, right?
【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 真正的filmmaker现在还不是用digicam去拍电影儿的吧? : 除了porno.
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a*****i 发帖数: 4391 | 12 hmm, 一年之中有很多好电影儿的.
大多数不是还用"really expensive equipments"排的?
拿DV拍的只不过是有点儿新意的几个而已吧.
$0.02,welcome to peng.
【在 d***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i think we have some... : i had this question from reading the article : about 贾樟柯 in Ghana. The jury thought his : new film shot in DV is of top quality. : and the new "italian for beginners" was definitely : shot on DV : anyway, who would you call a 真正的filmmaker : i guess by your definition it's gonna be somebody : who uses really expensive equipments, not a cheap : DV, right?
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a***n 发帖数: 5665 | 13
~~~~~~~ what is that?
【在 d***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i think we have some... : i had this question from reading the article : about 贾樟柯 in Ghana. The jury thought his : new film shot in DV is of top quality. : and the new "italian for beginners" was definitely : shot on DV : anyway, who would you call a 真正的filmmaker : i guess by your definition it's gonna be somebody : who uses really expensive equipments, not a cheap : DV, right?
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D****N 发帖数: 430 | 14 嗯, digital camcorder还买不起, 但是以前听到别人提起摄影
器材种种型号功能总是有抵触感, 好象为了记录一点儿自己眼里
的东西就要扛着大包小包满街地转, 后来听说有一种东西叫做数
码相机, 可以塞进口袋里出去玩儿的, 就忍不住掏出信用卡买了
一个.
之后两个月看世界的眼光完全改变, 开着车还忍不住东张西望,
每一段转弯的路都象是可以入画的风景, 且不提最后拍出来的成
果如何, 停下来拍照之前眼里的一切已经是印象深刻的惊喜.
到现在, 数码摄影机和其他的数码东西, 大师们可能还看不上眼,
但是这些便宜好用的仪器给业余选手一个机会表达自己, 和在bbs
上的文学版灌水的性质大概差不多吧. 这些作品只有周边的人有机
会看到, 去年就看了一位朋友的朋友自己录制的电影, 算不算艺术
也是吵架的好话题了, 但是如果你从未计划有鲜花和奥斯卡的成功,
只是为了尝试, 也是很好的途径, 万一不小心成了大导演, 大艺术
家, 再回去店里买十几公斤重的器材, 还来得及.
【在 d***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I didn't question the benefit of digitalization. : I was just wondering about its impact on filmmaking itself. : for example i don't see a big revolution in music composition : since digital recording dominates. do you? : i guess guoyu answered my question. : I would hate it if there are too many movies : out there...bad filmmakers should be put in prison for : wasting other people's lives
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D****N 发帖数: 430 | 15 Would there ever be *too many* films? :) Everyone
could have their own shot in creating and critisizing
art, in the end, you will always have the choice of not
watching something based on its reputation and brief
glimpse. That's exactly the reason I don't watch TV.. :)
Variety sounds much better than old plots acted over and
over again in grand elaborations, even a variety of crap,
imho, would still offer some delight in observing human
nature for a patient audience... As for the good stuff...
D
【在 g***u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : So that everybody can shoot films now instead of a : small portion of people. : And I guess the long term consequence is that there will be : too many films, you will never be able to pick up the right : one. Also it will make it harder for someone's work : to be noticed by others.
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b****n 发帖数: 865 | 16 多半是法国嘎纳电影节
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : ~~~~~~~ what is that?
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b****n 发帖数: 865 | 17
真的吗?看着好象和一般indie手提录像差不多。
就算是,这个DV和卢卡斯拍SW-II的DV还是不一样吧。
数码相机还有业余专业之分呢,能说明什么问题?
【在 d***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i think we have some... : i had this question from reading the article : about 贾樟柯 in Ghana. The jury thought his : new film shot in DV is of top quality. : and the new "italian for beginners" was definitely : shot on DV : anyway, who would you call a 真正的filmmaker : i guess by your definition it's gonna be somebody : who uses really expensive equipments, not a cheap : DV, right?
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b****n 发帖数: 865 | 18 说来说去,DV只是技术手段而已。能否创作出好作品,
还是要看创作者本身。不能唯武器论么。
数字化是大方向,DV终究要象数字录音,摄影一样取代
传统技术的,只是时间问题。
【在 d***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I didn't question the benefit of digitalization. : I was just wondering about its impact on filmmaking itself. : for example i don't see a big revolution in music composition : since digital recording dominates. do you? : i guess guoyu answered my question. : I would hate it if there are too many movies : out there...bad filmmakers should be put in prison for : wasting other people's lives
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m******s 发帖数: 8493 | 19 agree.high tech is a good tool
but depend on who use it
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 说来说去,DV只是技术手段而已。能否创作出好作品, : 还是要看创作者本身。不能唯武器论么。 : 数字化是大方向,DV终究要象数字录音,摄影一样取代 : 传统技术的,只是时间问题。
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a*****i 发帖数: 4391 | 20 Most of the professional photographers use SLR , NOT digital cameras. :)
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 说来说去,DV只是技术手段而已。能否创作出好作品, : 还是要看创作者本身。不能唯武器论么。 : 数字化是大方向,DV终究要象数字录音,摄影一样取代 : 传统技术的,只是时间问题。
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b****n 发帖数: 865 | 21 我是不懂摄影。可是SLR不是光学系统么?一样可以
数字记录影像啊?
【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Most of the professional photographers use SLR , NOT digital cameras. :)
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a*****i 发帖数: 4391 | 22 SLR相机一般指的是用胶卷的吧.
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我是不懂摄影。可是SLR不是光学系统么?一样可以 : 数字记录影像啊?
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d***e 发帖数: 710 | 23 not necessarily...
there are SLR digital cameras too, but very expensive...
i wonder how long it'll take digicams to
completely replace traditional ones...
【在 a*****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : SLR相机一般指的是用胶卷的吧.
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a***n 发帖数: 5665 | 24 not long lah. technically i think it can beat traditional cams in a couple
of years... in the commercial side, i am not sure.
【在 d***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : not necessarily... : there are SLR digital cameras too, but very expensive... : i wonder how long it'll take digicams to : completely replace traditional ones...
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b****n 发帖数: 865 | 25 大家只要问自己,一年前和现在比,买相机时会考虑
数字的有多少?
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : not long lah. technically i think it can beat traditional cams in a couple : of years... in the commercial side, i am not sure.
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