K****y
发帖数: 2762 | | K****y
发帖数: 2762 | | E*********e
发帖数: 10297 | 3 她这个双手插胸斜眼看人的姿势太凶了
我要避免作同样动作
真的比较凶
【在 K****y 的大作中提到】
: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41005969/ns/today-books/
| I*****e
发帖数: 7085 | 4 律师啊, 需要这种气场.
【在 E*********e 的大作中提到】
: 她这个双手插胸斜眼看人的姿势太凶了
: 我要避免作同样动作
: 真的比较凶
| c*******k
发帖数: 1437 | 5 第一眼看到她的照片觉得她长得很王姬
【在 E*********e 的大作中提到】
: 她这个双手插胸斜眼看人的姿势太凶了
: 我要避免作同样动作
: 真的比较凶
| E*********e
发帖数: 10297 | 6 我看太多TVB的电视了
【在 I*****e 的大作中提到】
: 律师啊, 需要这种气场.
| z*s
发帖数: 1695 | 7 顶锅盖说一下，我觉得在某些方面，她在这段采访上的观点，是有道理的。
【在 K****y 的大作中提到】
: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/41005969/ns/today-books/
| l*******e
发帖数: 3566 | 8 中国妈妈第一流的文章提供了两张照片，
不约而同都是这个姿势，
我当时看了就觉得很不舒服。
【在 E*********e 的大作中提到】
: 她这个双手插胸斜眼看人的姿势太凶了
: 我要避免作同样动作
: 真的比较凶
| r**y
发帖数: 853 | 9 这个女的出臭名了。要是以后她的孩子们跟她的教育背道而驰，那她真是脸丢到家了。 | A**u
发帖数: 2087 | 10 female tiger ah..
【在 E*********e 的大作中提到】
: 她这个双手插胸斜眼看人的姿势太凶了
: 我要避免作同样动作
: 真的比较凶
| | | z*s
发帖数: 1695 | 11 看着并不是很年轻啊，但是身材狂好。
【在 z*s 的大作中提到】
: 顶锅盖说一下，我觉得在某些方面，她在这段采访上的观点，是有道理的。
| E*********e
发帖数: 10297 | 12 她那个1，2，3也有一定道理
关键是，OH，你有道理就有道理好了，干吗把我们一整群人都捆绑上呢
OH,也许人家也没觉得咱们就是那个CHINESE MOM GROUP的
【在 z*s 的大作中提到】
: 顶锅盖说一下，我觉得在某些方面，她在这段采访上的观点，是有道理的。
| I*****e
发帖数: 7085 | 13 瘦是王道
我要减肥 //slogan
【在 z*s 的大作中提到】
: 看着并不是很年轻啊，但是身材狂好。
| z*s
发帖数: 1695 | 14 卖点啊
不榜上，只说个人观点，怎么吸引眼球
我觉得这是炒作 或者是marketing
【在 E*********e 的大作中提到】
: 她那个1，2，3也有一定道理
: 关键是，OH，你有道理就有道理好了，干吗把我们一整群人都捆绑上呢
: OH,也许人家也没觉得咱们就是那个CHINESE MOM GROUP的
| z*s
发帖数: 1695 | 15 这正是我想说的
瘦真的王道！！！！
【在 I*****e 的大作中提到】
: 瘦是王道
: 我要减肥 //slogan
| E*********e
发帖数: 10297 | 16 引用她原文，hi, fatty, you need to lose weight
要是闺女这么跟我说，我肯定忍不住要爆打她一顿
【在 z*s 的大作中提到】
: 这正是我想说的
: 瘦真的王道！！！！
| d*********z
发帖数: 663 | 17 也有点象章子怡
【在 c*******k 的大作中提到】
: 第一眼看到她的照片觉得她长得很王姬
| K****y
发帖数: 2762 | 18 就是Marketing,她不是多次说I Made Fun Of Myself.
【在 z*s 的大作中提到】
: 卖点啊
: 不榜上，只说个人观点，怎么吸引眼球
: 我觉得这是炒作 或者是marketing
| d*********z
发帖数: 663 | 19 我儿子经常要我join weight watcher program，看样子也要打他pp.
【在 E*********e 的大作中提到】
: 引用她原文，hi, fatty, you need to lose weight
: 要是闺女这么跟我说，我肯定忍不住要爆打她一顿
| z*s
发帖数: 1695 | 20 到底是她女儿说她还是她说她女儿啊
她有个女儿可不算瘦啊
【在 E*********e 的大作中提到】
: 引用她原文，hi, fatty, you need to lose weight
: 要是闺女这么跟我说，我肯定忍不住要爆打她一顿
| | | E*********e
发帖数: 10297 | 21 她说，中国妈妈会这么说女儿
【在 z*s 的大作中提到】
: 到底是她女儿说她还是她说她女儿啊
: 她有个女儿可不算瘦啊
| f****y
发帖数: 879 | 22 同意，
瘦是王道
【在 z*s 的大作中提到】
: 这正是我想说的
: 瘦真的王道！！！！
| z*s
发帖数: 1695 | 23 这点我倒不同意
我觉得美国女儿可能会这样说妈妈倒有可能，或者互相说
【在 E*********e 的大作中提到】
: 她说，中国妈妈会这么说女儿
| s*******l
发帖数: 4870 | | b******r
发帖数: 3206 | 25 你已经很瘦了。
【在 I*****e 的大作中提到】
: 瘦是王道
: 我要减肥 //slogan
| I*****e
发帖数: 7085 | 26 不够瘦
【在 b******r 的大作中提到】
: 你已经很瘦了。
| f******r
发帖数: 2975 | 27 这个评论看上去好伤心啊
I am Chinese American, born here in the US by immigrants who fit the
description for, "tiger parents." For those of you wondering about the end
result. I will tell you my experience. We were raised in a cold and hard
environment, not allowed to be children, but expected to basically to be
monkeys performing to often unreasonable standards. NEVER in my entire life
have I received a compliment or positive comment from my parents. It is a
constant deluge of criticism, being berated, basically never being good
enough (even when we were the top student), not only was there the emotional
abuse, but there was also physical abuse. We had no social life. We were
booked after school with piano, violin and other extracurricular activities
that our parents wanted us to do (with no regard as to whether or not we
wanted to do them), all in order to make our college applications look good.
We were not allowed to date, not allowed to watch tv unless it was PBS or
the news, and we were constantly told, "do not be like stupid Americans." As
you can imagine, our childhood was a living hell. When my father would come
home from work, instead of greeting him, we would all run upstairs and hide
from him. In turn, this would make him more angry that we were, "
disrespectful" and he would take out his anger on us (or our mom), usually
through more emotional abuse, telling us we were worthless and stupid. Yes,
we lived in fear. We did not get good grades or perform well for ourselves,
we did so, because we were scared of our parents. We were unhappy, had no
self esteem, had hardly any friends.
So, what is the result? I am now in my late 30's, as are my siblings and I
still have not recovered from being brought up like this. We were all
academically, "successful." We all went on to professional degrees and were
pushed into going into fields that our parents wanted. All three of us had
different fields we would have preferred, but we were told that they were
unacceptable since they were not doctor, engineer or lawyer, the holy
trinity of the tiger parent. Are we happy? No, not really, the damaging from
the way we were parented still haunt us today. The only good thing that has
come out of it, is that I am parenting my children almost 180 degrees
opposite from the way I was brought up. Yes, I still have high standards for
them, however, I refuse to put my children under the emotional and physical
abuse that I had to endure as a child. The only reason we are all married
now, is because we rebelled in college and started dating. All of my parents
' friends who kids did not date in college, ended up having to deal with
parents who turned around after graduation demanding to know why they were
married and popping out grandchildren. Yes, the irony, of following what
they tell you to do, and then in the end, it's still your fault.
You may wonder what my siblings' and my relationship is like with our
parents. It's HORRIBLE. We hate our parents, they still try to control us
even though we all have families of our own now, they are just NEVER happy.
They are still negative, never satisfied, always comparing us to other
people's adult children to try to prove to us that we are not good enough.
Even though we did what they told us to, they are still unhappy. Either the
college we went to was not good enough, we didn't get a perfect score on the
SAT, the specialization in our field of work was not one of high enough
status or our house/car aren't nice, enough, they ALWAYS have something to
criticize. Now they extend their criticism to the way we are raising our own
children and of course our natural reaction is to NOT want to spend time
with them, since they are so toxic.
My parents are old now, they are upset that we are not close to them. They
cannot understand that that the way that the cold, cruel way that they
parented basically ruined their relationship with us, instead as usual, they
blame us. They say that we are, "bad children," because we do not want to
be close to them, and that they have done nothing to make us hate them. I do
not know what we will do with my parents when they are too old to care for
themselves. NONE of us want to take them in, not because we are unable to,
but because they make us miserable and make us feel bad about ourselves,
they are toxic. If you feel sorry for my parents feeling abandoned by their
adult children, don't be. They were not the type of immigrants who, "
sacrificed" to come to this country. My father is from a well-to-do family
and is a physician. He would have had a more lucrative career if he stayed
in Taiwan.
If you want your children to be academically successful, the tiger parent
method may work. HOWEVER, be prepared NOT to have any sort of relationship
with your adult children, because they will loathe you when they grow up. My
siblings and I have all contemplated just cutting our parents out of our
lives, every time we talk or see them, it's a negative experience. It is
always about THEIR ego, and what THEY want. They don't care about anyone
else, parents like this should never be allowed to have children to begin
with, since they just see their children as an extension of their own ego. | q********y
发帖数: 615 | 28 it is all about eyeball economy.
【在 K****y 的大作中提到】
: 虎妈的采访,WSJ的文章断章取义,造成轰动效果... :-)
| A**u
发帖数: 2087 | 29 唉。。 看着着实让人伤心啊。。。
life
emotional
【在 f******r 的大作中提到】
: 这个评论看上去好伤心啊
: I am Chinese American, born here in the US by immigrants who fit the
: description for, "tiger parents." For those of you wondering about the end
: result. I will tell you my experience. We were raised in a cold and hard
: environment, not allowed to be children, but expected to basically to be
: monkeys performing to often unreasonable standards. NEVER in my entire life
: have I received a compliment or positive comment from my parents. It is a
: constant deluge of criticism, being berated, basically never being good
: enough (even when we were the top student), not only was there the emotional
: abuse, but there was also physical abuse. We had no social life. We were
| F**********y
发帖数: 10265 | 30 就是, 就是在中国我也没有这么被虐待过呀
【在 A**u 的大作中提到】
: 唉。。 看着着实让人伤心啊。。。
:
: life
: emotional
| | | j*****e
发帖数: 421 | 31 刚看了虎妈的WIKI词条，履历很IMPRESSIVE 啊，一家子都是牛人。她有个妹妹有唐氏
症，即使这样，还有两枚特奥游泳金牌。很多人觉得她小孩才18岁， 14岁，说成功为
时过早，其实她自己才是现身说法的那一个。 |
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