g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 1 再次感谢茶馆各位，今天跟对方保险公司交涉，他们下午回复说同意责任全部在他们那一方。能这么快有一个满意的结果有点出乎我们意料，能这么快有一个满意的结果有点出乎我们意料，因为出事的当天下午，对方保险公司给我们打电话问询了一下情况以后还声称可能不会赔偿。我认为很大程度上得力于我们准备的一份statement。我想贴在这儿，以后如果碰到类似的事情也许对大家有启发。
statement:
First, let me tell you some background:
1. The car accident happened at approximately 8:18 AM just in front of the community (****) where I have lived for more than 5 years. Almost every morning, I pass that intersection to go to work or drop my kids to the daycare. I have never tried to make a left turn without green left arrow. (with Google Map)
2.During my ** years’ driving history, I have never gotten any ticket due to bad drive behavior. I am very rational and prudent person. *******(omit n words) , From my training, I do anything very routinely and always step by step.
Second, let’s see if it is possible for someone to pass that intersection without left turn signal.
1. The *** rd has heavy traffic flow during the rush hour in the morning (7:30-8:30 am), the intersection between *** and *** is the most closest intersection for people exit or enter highway and it is one of the intersection that right in front of *** where a lot of people work in. The chance that during rush hour both directions in ** road have no car in this intersection when green light is on is very small. (Anyone can easily verify this!). Therefore, any rational person who is in the ** road will not make a left turn to ** road without the green arrow light.
2. If a person wants to make a left turn from **, he needs to cross 4 lanes which requires a few seconds, which adds the impossibility to make this left turn without a green arrow light. Furthermore, there are two left turn lanes in ** with left turn signal, who will take the risk to make left turn without waiting for his signal? (with Picture of that intersection).
Third, let’s see some facts about this accident.
In Wednesday morning, as usual, I arrived this intersection and stopped in my lane around 8:16 am, I waited there for almost 2 minutes to get my light. Then I saw the four lights in front of me became green (two left arrow and two front signals). I began to make left turn. Then I was hit. At the beginning, I even didn't realize what happened. Then I ran out of the car and asked the other driver (Mr. ***) very angrily "How do you drive? You didn't see your red light?" He said: "I can't see the light because of the sunlight!" (I guarantee this conversation). Then he asked me: "are you hurt?" **** (omit n words).
Fourth, let’s see what police report said:
In the police report it is clearly said: Driver #1 stated that he was unable to observe the traffic light for his direction of travel due to sunlight. Driver #2 stated that he was proceeding into the intersection in order to complete a left turn and had a green arrow for his direction of travel when vehicle #2 was struck by vehicle #1.
Finally, let's answer the following questions:
1. A person passes that intersection almost every day for more than 5 years, what is the chance that the person will take the risk to make left turn without signal?
2. A person who had been waited 2 minutes in that intersection and another person who ran across that intersection with 45 mph, who can see the traffic light more clearly?
3. After the accident, a person states that he had a green arrow for his direction of travel and another person states that he was unable to observe the traffic light for his direction of travel, what the traffic light that another person should have? RED LIGHT!
Conclusion: who should be responsible for this? Does the reason that someone was unable to see the traffic light can justify that he can run through a red light and hit others?
【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】
发信人: greenolive1 (甘蓝), 信区: Automobile
标 题: 交叉路口出车祸了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 23 21:40:32 2011, 美东)
LD今天早上送小孩去幼儿园，刚出我们居住的社区，在交叉路口左转，在有左转绿灯的
时候被一辆闯红灯的车给撞了，还好人没事，但是车撞得很严重。LD当时没有找
witness,警察的报告是这么说的：对方（一老头）没有承认闯红灯，只是说他 unable
to observe the traffic light for his direction of travel due to sunlight. LD
说 ：he was proceeding into the intersection in order to complete a left
turn and had a green arrow for his direction of travel. 我们的车是半保，打我
们自己的保险公司电话，他们不管，估计维修费是6K,打电话给对方保险公司，他们说
不能确定是谁的责任，准备赖账。请各位帮忙看看，我们该怎么办？是否要联系律师？ |
g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 2 知道这个话题跟茶馆一点关系也没有，但是经常在版上混，现在心情很差，过节也没心
思，希望大家安慰安慰，呜呜 |
c*********p
发帖数: 3217 | 3 安慰下, 一切都会过去． 我没经验.
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 知道这个话题跟茶馆一点关系也没有，但是经常在版上混，现在心情很差，过节也没心
: 思，希望大家安慰安慰，呜呜
|
q*********u
发帖数: 9501 | 4 嗨，出现这样的事还是要往好处想：
1，人没有事。
2，中国有句话，叫花钱消灾。
3，你和你老公都很年轻，这点钱放在你们的人生中真不算什么，一家人
平平安安比什么都重要！
祝你们全家节日快乐！ |
B******y
发帖数: 2255 | 5 MM别伤心，碰上这种事，人没事就值得高兴。我们家去年被盗过，贼应该就是我们进门
时从后门逃走的，当时家人怨我开门时耽搁了，否则也许就能抓到他，我还是宁愿让
它逃走，不要有正面冲突，在美国谁没枪，还抱着孩子，想想都害怕。 |
g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 6 是的，真的很庆幸大人小孩都没事，我也不在乎钱上损失了些，关键是气愤对方这么明
显的过错，对方保险公司竟然说分不清责任，后头还说对方司机改口说他看到的是绿灯
，LD的错误是没有现场找证人，今天早上去路口放了告示看能不能找到证人，准备明天
再咨询一下律师。感谢师傅的安慰，我现在心情好些了。
【在 q*********u 的大作中提到】
: 嗨，出现这样的事还是要往好处想：
: 1，人没有事。
: 2，中国有句话，叫花钱消灾。
: 3，你和你老公都很年轻，这点钱放在你们的人生中真不算什么，一家人
: 平平安安比什么都重要！
: 祝你们全家节日快乐！
|
g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 7 谢谢影子。感谢神我们能有平安。我也在想昨天太幸运了，车被撞在左边最前头，只要
老公那时再快点，不是老公就是小孩会受伤。所以这件事情的教训是车一定要全保，不
管新车旧车。这样你自己的保险公司才会出面，现在才知道保险公司是流氓，对付流氓就得用流氓。另外车祸后第一时间就是找证人。
【在 B******y 的大作中提到】
: MM别伤心，碰上这种事，人没事就值得高兴。我们家去年被盗过，贼应该就是我们进门
: 时从后门逃走的，当时家人怨我开门时耽搁了，否则也许就能抓到他，我还是宁愿让
: 它逃走，不要有正面冲突，在美国谁没枪，还抱着孩子，想想都害怕。
|
q*********u
发帖数: 9501 | 8 世界不公平的事太多了，想想也就平了，你这点是小事，被冤枉掉脑袋的都有，
所以我们相比较还是很幸运的。
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 是的，真的很庆幸大人小孩都没事，我也不在乎钱上损失了些，关键是气愤对方这么明
: 显的过错，对方保险公司竟然说分不清责任，后头还说对方司机改口说他看到的是绿灯
: ，LD的错误是没有现场找证人，今天早上去路口放了告示看能不能找到证人，准备明天
: 再咨询一下律师。感谢师傅的安慰，我现在心情好些了。
|
g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 9 是的，我也想开了，我想做一些事后努力包括找证人和律师，不行就认了，不想自己去
发费无数时间精力去跟对方保险公司argue.师傅过节也在坛子上泡？今天有什么活动吗？
【在 q*********u 的大作中提到】
: 世界不公平的事太多了，想想也就平了，你这点是小事，被冤枉掉脑袋的都有，
: 所以我们相比较还是很幸运的。
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q*********u
发帖数: 9501 | 10 LA 早上很难冷，中午出去和朋友喝酒。
吗？
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 是的，我也想开了，我想做一些事后努力包括找证人和律师，不行就认了，不想自己去
: 发费无数时间精力去跟对方保险公司argue.师傅过节也在坛子上泡？今天有什么活动吗？
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T*********s
发帖数: 17839 | 11 defensive drive
再加一条
不仅要全保
还要上最高保额
尤其是工作了有家有口有房子的人
不管怎么样
人没事就好
节日快乐
全家幸福
氓就得用流氓。另外车祸后第一时间就是找证人。
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢影子。感谢神我们能有平安。我也在想昨天太幸运了，车被撞在左边最前头，只要
: 老公那时再快点，不是老公就是小孩会受伤。所以这件事情的教训是车一定要全保，不
: 管新车旧车。这样你自己的保险公司才会出面，现在才知道保险公司是流氓，对付流氓就得用流氓。另外车祸后第一时间就是找证人。
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C*G
发帖数: 7495 | 12 bless
我老在交叉路口车位排第一个的时候，一般绿灯后等一秒，或者和旁边第二辆车一同起
步。local里事故大都发生在交叉路口的说
hiahia
unable
LD
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 是的，我也想开了，我想做一些事后努力包括找证人和律师，不行就认了，不想自己去
: 发费无数时间精力去跟对方保险公司argue.师傅过节也在坛子上泡？今天有什么活动吗？
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C*G
发帖数: 7495 | 13 在家里烤火鸡从来就没烤出外焦里嫩的网上看到的那种
hiahia
【在 T*********s 的大作中提到】
: defensive drive
: 再加一条
: 不仅要全保
: 还要上最高保额
: 尤其是工作了有家有口有房子的人
: 不管怎么样
: 人没事就好
: 节日快乐
: 全家幸福
:
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T*********s
发帖数: 17839 | 14 我也逃过一劫
车上有小孩呢
绿灯第一个
正启动准备走
一车超速闯红灯过来
好在我一般都慢一拍的说
【在 C*G 的大作中提到】
: bless
: 我老在交叉路口车位排第一个的时候，一般绿灯后等一秒，或者和旁边第二辆车一同起
: 步。local里事故大都发生在交叉路口的说
: hiahia
:
: unable
: LD
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T*********s
发帖数: 17839 | 15 烤鸭子容易些
【在 C*G 的大作中提到】
: 在家里烤火鸡从来就没烤出外焦里嫩的网上看到的那种
: hiahia
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g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 16 这条经验好！以后开车得养成这个习惯，节日愉快！
【在 C*G 的大作中提到】
: bless
: 我老在交叉路口车位排第一个的时候，一般绿灯后等一秒，或者和旁边第二辆车一同起
: 步。local里事故大都发生在交叉路口的说
: hiahia
:
: unable
: LD
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g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 17 所以我这次也万分庆幸，对方可是以45迈的速度撞上来的，孩子现在没事，老公有点肩
膀酸，可能是安全带拉的。
【在 T*********s 的大作中提到】
: 我也逃过一劫
: 车上有小孩呢
: 绿灯第一个
: 正启动准备走
: 一车超速闯红灯过来
: 好在我一般都慢一拍的说
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X*****s
发帖数: 2767 | |
Y**N
发帖数: 2628 | 19 安慰一下mm。顺便指出一下：“unable to observe the traffic light for his
direction of travel due to sunlight”，这个证词对于你们来说应该是很有利的，
和找到witness 有类似的功效。一个人是不能说“我闯红灯那会儿，正闭着眼休息”而
被豁免他的责任的，当然你们的case中，对方没有承认闯或者没闯。
找个律师问问，再努力找一下证人，积极维权还是挺重要的，要加强这种意识，再有钱
也不能给冤枉花掉了，是吧？ |
e*****i
发帖数: 114 | 20 bless
unable
LD
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 所以我这次也万分庆幸，对方可是以45迈的速度撞上来的，孩子现在没事，老公有点肩
: 膀酸，可能是安全带拉的。
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g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 21 是的，丫丫。周末作了一些功课准本明天再跟对方保险公司通话，看看结果如何。不行
再找律师问问。谢谢茶馆的各位的安慰和建议！
【在 Y**N 的大作中提到】
: 安慰一下mm。顺便指出一下：“unable to observe the traffic light for his
: direction of travel due to sunlight”，这个证词对于你们来说应该是很有利的，
: 和找到witness 有类似的功效。一个人是不能说“我闯红灯那会儿，正闭着眼休息”而
: 被豁免他的责任的，当然你们的case中，对方没有承认闯或者没闯。
: 找个律师问问，再努力找一下证人，积极维权还是挺重要的，要加强这种意识，再有钱
: 也不能给冤枉花掉了，是吧？
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g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 22 自己顶一下，:-) .加一句，要买全包呀！可以省掉很多麻烦！ |
T*********s
发帖数: 17839 | 23 完美解决
恭喜
这个申明写得真好
条理不一般的清楚 |
F****c
发帖数: 526 | |
B******y
发帖数: 2255 | |
g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 26 再次感谢茶馆各位，今天跟对方保险公司交涉，他们下午回复说同意责任全部在他们那一方。能这么快有一个满意的结果有点出乎我们意料，能这么快有一个满意的结果有点出乎我们意料，因为出事的当天下午，对方保险公司给我们打电话问询了一下情况以后还声称可能不会赔偿。我认为很大程度上得力于我们准备的一份statement。我想贴在这儿，以后如果碰到类似的事情也许对大家有启发。
statement:
First, let me tell you some background:
1. The car accident happened at approximately 8:18 AM just in front of the community (****) where I have lived for more than 5 years. Almost every morning, I pass that intersection to go to work or drop my kids to the daycare. I have never tried to make a left turn without green left arrow. (with Google Map)
2.During my ** years’ driving history, I have never gotten any ticket due to bad drive behavior. I am very rational and prudent person. *******(omit n words) , From my training, I do anything very routinely and always step by step.
Second, let’s see if it is possible for someone to pass that intersection without left turn signal.
1. The *** rd has heavy traffic flow during the rush hour in the morning (7:30-8:30 am), the intersection between *** and *** is the most closest intersection for people exit or enter highway and it is one of the intersection that right in front of *** where a lot of people work in. The chance that during rush hour both directions in ** road have no car in this intersection when green light is on is very small. (Anyone can easily verify this!). Therefore, any rational person who is in the ** road will not make a left turn to ** road without the green arrow light.
2. If a person wants to make a left turn from **, he needs to cross 4 lanes which requires a few seconds, which adds the impossibility to make this left turn without a green arrow light. Furthermore, there are two left turn lanes in ** with left turn signal, who will take the risk to make left turn without waiting for his signal? (with Picture of that intersection).
Third, let’s see some facts about this accident.
In Wednesday morning, as usual, I arrived this intersection and stopped in my lane around 8:16 am, I waited there for almost 2 minutes to get my light. Then I saw the four lights in front of me became green (two left arrow and two front signals). I began to make left turn. Then I was hit. At the beginning, I even didn't realize what happened. Then I ran out of the car and asked the other driver (Mr. ***) very angrily "How do you drive? You didn't see your red light?" He said: "I can't see the light because of the sunlight!" (I guarantee this conversation). Then he asked me: "are you hurt?" **** (omit n words).
Fourth, let’s see what police report said:
In the police report it is clearly said: Driver #1 stated that he was unable to observe the traffic light for his direction of travel due to sunlight. Driver #2 stated that he was proceeding into the intersection in order to complete a left turn and had a green arrow for his direction of travel when vehicle #2 was struck by vehicle #1.
Finally, let's answer the following questions:
1. A person passes that intersection almost every day for more than 5 years, what is the chance that the person will take the risk to make left turn without signal?
2. A person who had been waited 2 minutes in that intersection and another person who ran across that intersection with 45 mph, who can see the traffic light more clearly?
3. After the accident, a person states that he had a green arrow for his direction of travel and another person states that he was unable to observe the traffic light for his direction of travel, what the traffic light that another person should have? RED LIGHT!
Conclusion: who should be responsible for this? Does the reason that someone was unable to see the traffic light can justify that he can run through a red light and hit others?
【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】
发信人: greenolive1 (甘蓝), 信区: Automobile
标 题: 交叉路口出车祸了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 23 21:40:32 2011, 美东)
LD今天早上送小孩去幼儿园，刚出我们居住的社区，在交叉路口左转，在有左转绿灯的
时候被一辆闯红灯的车给撞了，还好人没事，但是车撞得很严重。LD当时没有找
witness,警察的报告是这么说的：对方（一老头）没有承认闯红灯，只是说他 unable
to observe the traffic light for his direction of travel due to sunlight. LD
说 ：he was proceeding into the intersection in order to complete a left
turn and had a green arrow for his direction of travel. 我们的车是半保，打我
们自己的保险公司电话，他们不管，估计维修费是6K,打电话给对方保险公司，他们说
不能确定是谁的责任，准备赖账。请各位帮忙看看，我们该怎么办？是否要联系律师？ |
g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 27 知道这个话题跟茶馆一点关系也没有，但是经常在版上混，现在心情很差，过节也没心
思，希望大家安慰安慰，呜呜 |
c*********p
发帖数: 3217 | 28 安慰下, 一切都会过去． 我没经验.
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 知道这个话题跟茶馆一点关系也没有，但是经常在版上混，现在心情很差，过节也没心
: 思，希望大家安慰安慰，呜呜
|
q*********u
发帖数: 9501 | 29 嗨，出现这样的事还是要往好处想：
1，人没有事。
2，中国有句话，叫花钱消灾。
3，你和你老公都很年轻，这点钱放在你们的人生中真不算什么，一家人
平平安安比什么都重要！
祝你们全家节日快乐！ |
B******y
发帖数: 2255 | 30 MM别伤心，碰上这种事，人没事就值得高兴。我们家去年被盗过，贼应该就是我们进门
时从后门逃走的，当时家人怨我开门时耽搁了，否则也许就能抓到他，我还是宁愿让
它逃走，不要有正面冲突，在美国谁没枪，还抱着孩子，想想都害怕。 |
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g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 31 是的，真的很庆幸大人小孩都没事，我也不在乎钱上损失了些，关键是气愤对方这么明
显的过错，对方保险公司竟然说分不清责任，后头还说对方司机改口说他看到的是绿灯
，LD的错误是没有现场找证人，今天早上去路口放了告示看能不能找到证人，准备明天
再咨询一下律师。感谢师傅的安慰，我现在心情好些了。
【在 q*********u 的大作中提到】
: 嗨，出现这样的事还是要往好处想：
: 1，人没有事。
: 2，中国有句话，叫花钱消灾。
: 3，你和你老公都很年轻，这点钱放在你们的人生中真不算什么，一家人
: 平平安安比什么都重要！
: 祝你们全家节日快乐！
|
g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 32 谢谢影子。感谢神我们能有平安。我也在想昨天太幸运了，车被撞在左边最前头，只要
老公那时再快点，不是老公就是小孩会受伤。所以这件事情的教训是车一定要全保，不
管新车旧车。这样你自己的保险公司才会出面，现在才知道保险公司是流氓，对付流氓就得用流氓。另外车祸后第一时间就是找证人。
【在 B******y 的大作中提到】
: MM别伤心，碰上这种事，人没事就值得高兴。我们家去年被盗过，贼应该就是我们进门
: 时从后门逃走的，当时家人怨我开门时耽搁了，否则也许就能抓到他，我还是宁愿让
: 它逃走，不要有正面冲突，在美国谁没枪，还抱着孩子，想想都害怕。
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q*********u
发帖数: 9501 | 33 世界不公平的事太多了，想想也就平了，你这点是小事，被冤枉掉脑袋的都有，
所以我们相比较还是很幸运的。
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 是的，真的很庆幸大人小孩都没事，我也不在乎钱上损失了些，关键是气愤对方这么明
: 显的过错，对方保险公司竟然说分不清责任，后头还说对方司机改口说他看到的是绿灯
: ，LD的错误是没有现场找证人，今天早上去路口放了告示看能不能找到证人，准备明天
: 再咨询一下律师。感谢师傅的安慰，我现在心情好些了。
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g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 34 是的，我也想开了，我想做一些事后努力包括找证人和律师，不行就认了，不想自己去
发费无数时间精力去跟对方保险公司argue.师傅过节也在坛子上泡？今天有什么活动吗？
【在 q*********u 的大作中提到】
: 世界不公平的事太多了，想想也就平了，你这点是小事，被冤枉掉脑袋的都有，
: 所以我们相比较还是很幸运的。
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q*********u
发帖数: 9501 | 35 LA 早上很难冷，中午出去和朋友喝酒。
吗？
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 是的，我也想开了，我想做一些事后努力包括找证人和律师，不行就认了，不想自己去
: 发费无数时间精力去跟对方保险公司argue.师傅过节也在坛子上泡？今天有什么活动吗？
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T*********s
发帖数: 17839 | 36 defensive drive
再加一条
不仅要全保
还要上最高保额
尤其是工作了有家有口有房子的人
不管怎么样
人没事就好
节日快乐
全家幸福
氓就得用流氓。另外车祸后第一时间就是找证人。
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢影子。感谢神我们能有平安。我也在想昨天太幸运了，车被撞在左边最前头，只要
: 老公那时再快点，不是老公就是小孩会受伤。所以这件事情的教训是车一定要全保，不
: 管新车旧车。这样你自己的保险公司才会出面，现在才知道保险公司是流氓，对付流氓就得用流氓。另外车祸后第一时间就是找证人。
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C*G
发帖数: 7495 | 37 bless
我老在交叉路口车位排第一个的时候，一般绿灯后等一秒，或者和旁边第二辆车一同起
步。local里事故大都发生在交叉路口的说
hiahia
unable
LD
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 是的，我也想开了，我想做一些事后努力包括找证人和律师，不行就认了，不想自己去
: 发费无数时间精力去跟对方保险公司argue.师傅过节也在坛子上泡？今天有什么活动吗？
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C*G
发帖数: 7495 | 38 在家里烤火鸡从来就没烤出外焦里嫩的网上看到的那种
hiahia
【在 T*********s 的大作中提到】
: defensive drive
: 再加一条
: 不仅要全保
: 还要上最高保额
: 尤其是工作了有家有口有房子的人
: 不管怎么样
: 人没事就好
: 节日快乐
: 全家幸福
:
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T*********s
发帖数: 17839 | 39 我也逃过一劫
车上有小孩呢
绿灯第一个
正启动准备走
一车超速闯红灯过来
好在我一般都慢一拍的说
【在 C*G 的大作中提到】
: bless
: 我老在交叉路口车位排第一个的时候，一般绿灯后等一秒，或者和旁边第二辆车一同起
: 步。local里事故大都发生在交叉路口的说
: hiahia
:
: unable
: LD
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T*********s
发帖数: 17839 | 40 烤鸭子容易些
【在 C*G 的大作中提到】
: 在家里烤火鸡从来就没烤出外焦里嫩的网上看到的那种
: hiahia
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g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 41 这条经验好！以后开车得养成这个习惯，节日愉快！
【在 C*G 的大作中提到】
: bless
: 我老在交叉路口车位排第一个的时候，一般绿灯后等一秒，或者和旁边第二辆车一同起
: 步。local里事故大都发生在交叉路口的说
: hiahia
:
: unable
: LD
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g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 42 所以我这次也万分庆幸，对方可是以45迈的速度撞上来的，孩子现在没事，老公有点肩
膀酸，可能是安全带拉的。
【在 T*********s 的大作中提到】
: 我也逃过一劫
: 车上有小孩呢
: 绿灯第一个
: 正启动准备走
: 一车超速闯红灯过来
: 好在我一般都慢一拍的说
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X*****s
发帖数: 2767 | |
e*****i
发帖数: 114 | 44 bless
unable
LD
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 所以我这次也万分庆幸，对方可是以45迈的速度撞上来的，孩子现在没事，老公有点肩
: 膀酸，可能是安全带拉的。
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g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 45 是的，丫丫。周末作了一些功课准本明天再跟对方保险公司通话，看看结果如何。不行
再找律师问问。谢谢茶馆的各位的安慰和建议！
【在 Y**N 的大作中提到】
: 安慰一下mm。顺便指出一下：“unable to observe the traffic light for his
: direction of travel due to sunlight”，这个证词对于你们来说应该是很有利的，
: 和找到witness 有类似的功效。一个人是不能说“我闯红灯那会儿，正闭着眼休息”而
: 被豁免他的责任的，当然你们的case中，对方没有承认闯或者没闯。
: 找个律师问问，再努力找一下证人，积极维权还是挺重要的，要加强这种意识，再有钱
: 也不能给冤枉花掉了，是吧？
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g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 46 自己顶一下，:-) .加一句，要买全包呀！可以省掉很多麻烦！ |
T*********s
发帖数: 17839 | 47 完美解决
恭喜
这个申明写得真好
条理不一般的清楚 |
F****c
发帖数: 526 | |
B******y
发帖数: 2255 | |
C*G
发帖数: 7495 | 50 绿灯后慢一步,或者和旁边第二辆车一同起步的好处
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Headline/31519765.html
hiahia
【在 C*G 的大作中提到】
: bless
: 我老在交叉路口车位排第一个的时候，一般绿灯后等一秒，或者和旁边第二辆车一同起
: 步。local里事故大都发生在交叉路口的说
: hiahia
:
: unable
: LD
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s***g
发帖数: 1250 | 51 平安就是福啊。
那一方。能这么快有一个满意的结果有点出乎我们意料，能这么快有一个满意的结果有
点出乎我们意料，因为出事的当天下午，对方保险公司给我们打电话问询了一下情况以
后还声称可能不会赔偿。我认为很大程度上得力于我们准备的一份statement。我
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【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 再次感谢茶馆各位，今天跟对方保险公司交涉，他们下午回复说同意责任全部在他们那一方。能这么快有一个满意的结果有点出乎我们意料，能这么快有一个满意的结果有点出乎我们意料，因为出事的当天下午，对方保险公司给我们打电话问询了一下情况以后还声称可能不会赔偿。我认为很大程度上得力于我们准备的一份statement。我想贴在这儿，以后如果碰到类似的事情也许对大家有启发。
: statement:
: First, let me tell you some background:
: 1. The car accident happened at approximately 8:18 AM just in front of the community (****) where I have lived for more than 5 years. Almost every morning, I pass that intersection to go to work or drop my kids to the daycare. I have never tried to make a left turn without green left arrow. (with Google Map)
: 2.During my ** years’ driving history, I have never gotten any ticket due to bad drive behavior. I am very rational and prudent person. *******(omit n words) , From my training, I do anything very routinely and always step by step.
: Second, let’s see if it is possible for someone to pass that intersection without left turn signal.
: 1. The *** rd has heavy traffic flow during the rush hour in the morning (7:30-8:30 am), the intersection between *** and *** is the most closest intersection for people exit or enter highway and it is one of the intersection that right in front of *** where a lot of people work in. The chance that during rush hour both directions in ** road have no car in this intersection when green light is on is very small. (Anyone can easily verify this!). Therefore, any rational person who is in the ** road will not make a left turn to ** road without the green arrow light.
: 2. If a person wants to make a left turn from **, he needs to cross 4 lanes which requires a few seconds, which adds the impossibility to make this left turn without a green arrow light. Furthermore, there are two left turn lanes in ** with left turn signal, who will take the risk to make left turn without waiting for his signal? (with Picture of that intersection).
: Third, let’s see some facts about this accident.
: In Wednesday morning, as usual, I arrived this intersection and stopped in my lane around 8:16 am, I waited there for almost 2 minutes to get my light. Then I saw the four lights in front of me became green (two left arrow and two front signals). I began to make left turn. Then I was hit. At the beginning, I even didn't realize what happened. Then I ran out of the car and asked the other driver (Mr. ***) very angrily "How do you drive? You didn't see your red light?" He said: "I can't see the light because of the sunlight!" (I guarantee this conversation). Then he asked me: "are you hurt?" **** (omit n words).
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q*********u
发帖数: 9501 | 52 太可怕了，太震撼了。
车的加速度是评价车好坏的重要标志，好车在这里变成害人害己的工具。
祸福相倚呀!
【在 C*G 的大作中提到】
: 绿灯后慢一步,或者和旁边第二辆车一同起步的好处
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Headline/31519765.html
: hiahia
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o******e
发帖数: 525 | 53 过路口哪怕是绿灯，左右看一眼是王道。跟旁边一起起步也有个左右方向的问题。。。
【在 C*G 的大作中提到】
: 绿灯后慢一步,或者和旁边第二辆车一同起步的好处
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Headline/31519765.html
: hiahia
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S******t
发帖数: 8388 | 54 Faint!
先恭喜MM平安无事。
天呀！我总是冲锋在前，不过一般多会左右看。
【在 C*G 的大作中提到】
: 绿灯后慢一步,或者和旁边第二辆车一同起步的好处
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Headline/31519765.html
: hiahia
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rh
发帖数: 3901 | 55 不错！
下次还是要记得找证人才是王道
那一方。能这么快有一个满意的结果有点出乎我们意料，能这么快有一个满意的结果有
点出乎我们意料，因为出事的当天下午，对方保险公司给我们打电话问询了一下情况以
后还声称可能不会赔偿。我认为很大程度上得力于我们准备的一份statement。我想贴
在这儿，以后如果碰到类似的事情也许对大家有启发。
【在 g*********1 的大作中提到】
: 再次感谢茶馆各位，今天跟对方保险公司交涉，他们下午回复说同意责任全部在他们那一方。能这么快有一个满意的结果有点出乎我们意料，能这么快有一个满意的结果有点出乎我们意料，因为出事的当天下午，对方保险公司给我们打电话问询了一下情况以后还声称可能不会赔偿。我认为很大程度上得力于我们准备的一份statement。我想贴在这儿，以后如果碰到类似的事情也许对大家有启发。
: statement:
: First, let me tell you some background:
: 1. The car accident happened at approximately 8:18 AM just in front of the community (****) where I have lived for more than 5 years. Almost every morning, I pass that intersection to go to work or drop my kids to the daycare. I have never tried to make a left turn without green left arrow. (with Google Map)
: 2.During my ** years’ driving history, I have never gotten any ticket due to bad drive behavior. I am very rational and prudent person. *******(omit n words) , From my training, I do anything very routinely and always step by step.
: Second, let’s see if it is possible for someone to pass that intersection without left turn signal.
: 1. The *** rd has heavy traffic flow during the rush hour in the morning (7:30-8:30 am), the intersection between *** and *** is the most closest intersection for people exit or enter highway and it is one of the intersection that right in front of *** where a lot of people work in. The chance that during rush hour both directions in ** road have no car in this intersection when green light is on is very small. (Anyone can easily verify this!). Therefore, any rational person who is in the ** road will not make a left turn to ** road without the green arrow light.
: 2. If a person wants to make a left turn from **, he needs to cross 4 lanes which requires a few seconds, which adds the impossibility to make this left turn without a green arrow light. Furthermore, there are two left turn lanes in ** with left turn signal, who will take the risk to make left turn without waiting for his signal? (with Picture of that intersection).
: Third, let’s see some facts about this accident.
: In Wednesday morning, as usual, I arrived this intersection and stopped in my lane around 8:16 am, I waited there for almost 2 minutes to get my light. Then I saw the four lights in front of me became green (two left arrow and two front signals). I began to make left turn. Then I was hit. At the beginning, I even didn't realize what happened. Then I ran out of the car and asked the other driver (Mr. ***) very angrily "How do you drive? You didn't see your red light?" He said: "I can't see the light because of the sunlight!" (I guarantee this conversation). Then he asked me: "are you hurt?" **** (omit n words).
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g*********1
发帖数: 725 | 56 faint. My old post was digged out by you. now I alway remind myself and my
husband to watch out for the those ones across red light. We were really
lucky that time. Thank God!
【在 C*G 的大作中提到】
: 绿灯后慢一步,或者和旁边第二辆车一同起步的好处
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Headline/31519765.html
: hiahia
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