m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 1 two hands I met in one night.
1. K4 suited
flop KJ3 , nobody bet
turn 10, I bet 15 , only button called 15$
river 4, i bet 20, he raised to 100$, up to me
2. K10
flop Q109 nobody bet
turn is 3 I bet 15$ , button called, small blind, big blind both called.
river is A , big blind, small blind checked to me , I checked
button bet 80$,everyone fold, up to me
are they both bluffing,or one of them bluff, or both are value bet?( both
image is unknown) | m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | | l******n
发帖数: 641 | 3
i'll fold. position is too bad.
this one, an A or Q is not pure bluffing,
so fold.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: two hands I met in one night.
: 1. K4 suited
: flop KJ3 , nobody bet
: turn 10, I bet 15 , only button called 15$
: river 4, i bet 20, he raised to 100$, up to me
: 2. K10
: flop Q109 nobody bet
: turn is 3 I bet 15$ , button called, small blind, big blind both called.
: river is A , big blind, small blind checked to me , I checked
: button bet 80$,everyone fold, up to me
| s****s
发帖数: 1248 | 4 第一付：
flop的时候我就bet，但你没有，我觉得他有2个4，但又不甘心，call吧
第二付，我觉得骗人
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: two hands I met in one night.
: 1. K4 suited
: flop KJ3 , nobody bet
: turn 10, I bet 15 , only button called 15$
: river 4, i bet 20, he raised to 100$, up to me
: 2. K10
: flop Q109 nobody bet
: turn is 3 I bet 15$ , button called, small blind, big blind both called.
: river is A , big blind, small blind checked to me , I checked
: button bet 80$,everyone fold, up to me
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 5 to sososo,
how can you put him on pocket 44??
can he call 44 15$ for a 15 pot on the turn?
The reason I didn't bet flop because my kicker is too small. | m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 6
for the first one, you said fold because of bad position, in fact I called
and the only reason is because I have bad position, I am thinking he is
using his position to bluff me.when you called one hand, you don't need to
worry about position, because you are not going to reraise anyway.
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
:
: i'll fold. position is too bad.
: this one, an A or Q is not pure bluffing,
: so fold.
| l********r
发帖数: 868 | 7 The first hand is like a bluff. How can this 4 help him? Even if he holds so
mething like 34, 104, J4, you still beat him. Only a set of 4 beats you but
he would likely fold on the turn for a pair of 4. So my guess is he's bluffi
ng and you can raise.
For the second hand, if he flopped the straight, you're dead. Or if he has a
n A, he could call your turn bet with a gutshot straight draw. So this bet s
eems to be a value bet, not a bluff. I would fold.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: two hands I met in one night.
: 1. K4 suited
: flop KJ3 , nobody bet
: turn 10, I bet 15 , only button called 15$
: river 4, i bet 20, he raised to 100$, up to me
: 2. K10
: flop Q109 nobody bet
: turn is 3 I bet 15$ , button called, small blind, big blind both called.
: river is A , big blind, small blind checked to me , I checked
: button bet 80$,everyone fold, up to me
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 8 sorry,
for the first one , I have K2 not K4 ( K4 i call instantly) | m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 9 for the 2 hand,
if he flop a straight, when I bet 15$ on the turn, he probably will reraise
a little bit, because any J or K came, he may chop chop with me or other
guys.
his suddent bet 80$ on the river seems a bluff . | l********r
发帖数: 868 | 10 hm, so you only have 1 pair. If he has 2-pair, only 34 or K4 sounds a possib
le playable hand. But he didn't bet on the flop when he got position, that's
unusual especially when he has a low kicker. 34 is not that possible either
, because he called your bet on the turn. So maybe he has a mid pair. I woul
d call and call is enough, no re-raise.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: sorry,
: for the first one , I have K2 not K4 ( K4 i call instantly)
| | | l********r
发帖数: 868 | 11 this hand is hard to guess.this guy did an oversize bet on the river. oversi
ze bet is very hard to predict. most of them come from newbies. but pros als
o use oversize bet from time to time. he sensed your weakness on the turn an
d may well decided to bluff with the scary river card. however, such bluff i
s more scary if he only betted $30 or so. now he betted $80, you have to fig
ure out if he just did an inexperienced bluff or he intended to make you thi
nk this way. I lean towards calling.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: for the 2 hand,
: if he flop a straight, when I bet 15$ on the turn, he probably will reraise
: a little bit, because any J or K came, he may chop chop with me or other
: guys.
: his suddent bet 80$ on the river seems a bluff .
| s****s
发帖数: 1248 | 12 我玩得不好的，没有你这么狡诈，还有看那人玩的习惯，说说结果怎么啦？如果只有一
对k就fold
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: to sososo,
: how can you put him on pocket 44??
: can he call 44 15$ for a 15 pot on the turn?
: The reason I didn't bet flop because my kicker is too small.
| l********r
发帖数: 868 | 13 呵呵，其实结果是次要的。重要的是从统计概率上来说什么样的判断是正确的。melonl
i经验很丰富，从他的例子中获益颇多。
【在 s****s 的大作中提到】
: 我玩得不好的，没有你这么狡诈，还有看那人玩的习惯，说说结果怎么啦？如果只有一
: 对k就fold
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 14 1. hand , he showed JQ , I won
2. hand , I called, he showed the nut straight! JK)( he flopped it)
There is one thing I forgot when I call the 2nd hand, because he facing 3
people , if he still bluff, that will be very risky.
For the 1 hand since he never show his power when there is a straight
possilbe, I put him on a draw, so I called without any hesitate on the
river. | l********r
发帖数: 868 | 15 interesting hands. the first hand has more "learning value". the 2nd hand in
volves an oversize bet. I guess not many people do this in real money play.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: 1. hand , he showed JQ , I won
: 2. hand , I called, he showed the nut straight! JK)( he flopped it)
: There is one thing I forgot when I call the 2nd hand, because he facing 3
: people , if he still bluff, that will be very risky.
: For the 1 hand since he never show his power when there is a straight
: possilbe, I put him on a draw, so I called without any hesitate on the
: river.
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | | s****s
发帖数: 1248 | 17 sign 都错了
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: 1. hand , he showed JQ , I won
: 2. hand , I called, he showed the nut straight! JK)( he flopped it)
: There is one thing I forgot when I call the 2nd hand, because he facing 3
: people , if he still bluff, that will be very risky.
: For the 1 hand since he never show his power when there is a straight
: possilbe, I put him on a draw, so I called without any hesitate on the
: river.
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