m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 1 Ah10h BB, a loose guy bet 7$ on botton, I raise to 24, he called
flop Qs3s9h , I bet 36, he called turn is 8h,
what is the best move, all in ? check call or just check fold?
I have 175$ he got more. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 range of his hand:
1) Ax
2) Qx, x weak, or even 9x, x strong
3) suited spades (connectors or high ones)
4) straight draw on flop (scary if he held TJ and you act first)
5) medium pair
6) ...
he got a wild range of possiblities, and POSITION. i would check here:
1) same bet like ~$36 here is just a waste of money, $70-$100 would make you
committed, so why not all-in? but with this hand and his range, personally
i wouldn't do it with my last $175 (quite some $$$); even you succeed, only
$60 profit
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: Ah10h BB, a loose guy bet 7$ on botton, I raise to 24, he called
: flop Qs3s9h , I bet 36, he called turn is 8h,
: what is the best move, all in ? check call or just check fold?
: I have 175$ he got more.
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 3 but if I check show my weakness, he will bet 70-100$ and then what to do? | m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 4 and if I push, he will fold QX or small pair here. even if he called , I
still have outs. IF I just check here, I will probably lost this hand(130$ ) | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 5 i think the biggest problem here is you're out of position, and so far you
have no idea about what he might be holding...
i doubt he'll fold Qx here if his image is loose.
for small pairs, i don't think he'll raise to $7 and then call your $24+36
with anything lower than 77. 88, your worst nightmare, TT, JJ? also possible.
i'm not afraid of show my "weakness" here together with some acting, hehe,
ppl may not take it as a real weakness in their eyes.
1) he checks too, easy for both of you; you mi
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: and if I push, he will fold QX or small pair here. even if he called , I
: still have outs. IF I just check here, I will probably lost this hand(130$ )
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 6 if I check , he check, river I missed, what can I do, give up this pot?
since his image is loose and in position , that is why he may have a weak
hand to push out. if he really have hand he will show his power bf flop or
on the flop already since the flop is not safe. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 7 but it's safer for you too with such a draw heavy board, if i were you, i
wouldn't think like "since i showed my strength from the beginning, i can't
let him sense any of my weakness on the way...i have to bet, bet, bet
stronger, ..." eventually make a big pot/possible big mistake.
he didn't show his power because he might think calling was enough with his
position or slow playing, for some ppl, they don't need to jump out
obviously and re-raise you.
anyway, what's the actual action/result?
hehe
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: if I check , he check, river I missed, what can I do, give up this pot?
: since his image is loose and in position , that is why he may have a weak
: hand to push out. if he really have hand he will show his power bf flop or
: on the flop already since the flop is not safe.
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 8 push or check-fold i guess.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: Ah10h BB, a loose guy bet 7$ on botton, I raise to 24, he called
: flop Qs3s9h , I bet 36, he called turn is 8h,
: what is the best move, all in ? check call or just check fold?
: I have 175$ he got more.
| i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 9 i think it's a perfect situation to semi-bluff;
of course i'll need some postflop read on the guy to be sure;
you
personally
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: range of his hand:
: 1) Ax
: 2) Qx, x weak, or even 9x, x strong
: 3) suited spades (connectors or high ones)
: 4) straight draw on flop (scary if he held TJ and you act first)
: 5) medium pair
: 6) ...
: he got a wild range of possiblities, and POSITION. i would check here:
: 1) same bet like ~$36 here is just a waste of money, $70-$100 would make you
: committed, so why not all-in? but with this hand and his range, personally
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 10 check, you are most likely behind against most reasonable players, if you
get a free card on turn, it's a success. Also, ATs is just too weak to play
out of position, when you reraise and he called, I tend to give
up this hand since the you missed the flop.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: Ah10h BB, a loose guy bet 7$ on botton, I raise to 24, he called
: flop Qs3s9h , I bet 36, he called turn is 8h,
: what is the best move, all in ? check call or just check fold?
: I have 175$ he got more.
| | | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 11 against a loose player, you really want to play in position and value bet
top pairs or over pairs strongly, not to play a big pot out of position
with only ace high. Suppose he holds something like AQ, KQ, QJ, if you push,
he'll call you down easily cause he's loose, and you are an underdog.
Semibluffs work well against decent opponents, cause the more likely
they'll fold, the more profitable your semibluff is.
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: Ah10h BB, a loose guy bet 7$ on botton, I raise to 24, he called
: flop Qs3s9h , I bet 36, he called turn is 8h,
: what is the best move, all in ? check call or just check fold?
: I have 175$ he got more.
| h****h
发帖数: 1168 | 12 agree.
play
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: check, you are most likely behind against most reasonable players, if you
: get a free card on turn, it's a success. Also, ATs is just too weak to play
: out of position, when you reraise and he called, I tend to give
: up this hand since the you missed the flop.
| h****h
发帖数: 1168 | 13 yes, i will bluff a tighter player,
than a loose one.
push,
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: against a loose player, you really want to play in position and value bet
: top pairs or over pairs strongly, not to play a big pot out of position
: with only ace high. Suppose he holds something like AQ, KQ, QJ, if you push,
: he'll call you down easily cause he's loose, and you are an underdog.
: Semibluffs work well against decent opponents, cause the more likely
: they'll fold, the more profitable your semibluff is.
| m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 14 He had KK this time and called me down . I missed the river...
the way he played confused me.
you guys maybe right this time... | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 15 hehe, loose guys are like this, when they really have something, they
pretend to be nervous and weak...
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: He had KK this time and called me down . I missed the river...
: the way he played confused me.
: you guys maybe right this time...
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