D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 1 MTT ,close to FT, both have pretty health stack,
KK preflop allin called by KJ(why ppl made such stupid call)
5 8 9 - 10 -Q
what a runner -runer str8! | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 well, from another standpoint, if you have a healthy stack (say, 20M+, M=Sb+
BB+antes), why you push so hard pre-flop? and what's his position?
you basically commit both of you pre-flop with heavy shoves, 90% of time you
'll win this hand vs. KJ, but he still gets 10%.
and your over bet actually undervalues your real strength in his eyes, from
his side, what could you have with such a "protective" bet?? small to medium
PP or Ax make most sense, if the blinds/antes are high enough, his KJ
shove m
【在 D*A 的大作中提到】
: MTT ,close to FT, both have pretty health stack,
: KK preflop allin called by KJ(why ppl made such stupid call)
: 5 8 9 - 10 -Q
: what a runner -runer str8!
| D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 3 Well, he raise three blinds,for instance i put him AJ or 88 like,
i don't want flop A or even 4.5-1 risk, i simply want him to fold.
,
What i don't understand, even he think i was bluffing with Ax.
KJo is definitely not enough to call pre-flop all in, in my point of view.
Sb+
you
from
medium
when
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: well, from another standpoint, if you have a healthy stack (say, 20M+, M=Sb+
: BB+antes), why you push so hard pre-flop? and what's his position?
: you basically commit both of you pre-flop with heavy shoves, 90% of time you
: 'll win this hand vs. KJ, but he still gets 10%.
: and your over bet actually undervalues your real strength in his eyes, from
: his side, what could you have with such a "protective" bet?? small to medium
: PP or Ax make most sense, if the blinds/antes are high enough, his KJ
: shove m
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 4 the idea of winning mtt is that you often have to survive a few
confrontations
in which you are a huge underdog.
【在 D*A 的大作中提到】
: Well, he raise three blinds,for instance i put him AJ or 88 like,
: i don't want flop A or even 4.5-1 risk, i simply want him to fold.
: ,
: What i don't understand, even he think i was bluffing with Ax.
: KJo is definitely not enough to call pre-flop all in, in my point of view.
:
: Sb+
: you
: from
: medium
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 5 this all depends on his "read", KJo is ok enough to some ppl if they believe
you have medium PP, they're not even a big underdog to ATo, A9s alike. if
they're desperately looking for a double up to survive raising blinds, they
would do it, even i do it about 20% of time.
the problem is, he didn't know your hand.
actually sometimes you need to take risks by not shoving with AA, KK pre-
flop, you need to extract good values from these power houses, after all,
they're monsters most of time. i would
【在 D*A 的大作中提到】
: Well, he raise three blinds,for instance i put him AJ or 88 like,
: i don't want flop A or even 4.5-1 risk, i simply want him to fold.
: ,
: What i don't understand, even he think i was bluffing with Ax.
: KJo is definitely not enough to call pre-flop all in, in my point of view.
:
: Sb+
: you
: from
: medium
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 right.
also, i feel that we need to learn from others' play and learn moves we
never even thought about making ("wrong", "not according to the book", "if
he 3 bets me, he got me", "i hold KK, he calls my raise, and flop has an ace
..."). like ed miller said, we need to get out of the comfort zone and think
outside the box.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: the idea of winning mtt is that you often have to survive a few
: confrontations
: in which you are a huge underdog.
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