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发帖数: 5516 | 1 I am wondering if someone has posted it in the pennystock club. I do think pumpers use similar strategies to "pumping a stock". When you are browsing a
stock forum other than this pennystock club, please pay close attentions to these rules.
I saw quite a few posts in the "stock" forum by someone called "guanxi chen". Those posts certainly belong to the category of "pumping a stock".
The most important thing is to do your own homework. Reading SEC fillings is the very first
thing need to be done for a serious investor.
Disclaimers: I do not intentionally offend any persons in this club. The purpose of this post is only for providing more information to pennystockers
here.
-by var.
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The Bashers Handbook
Lesson 1: Remember, BASHERS NEVER Bash A BAD STOCK. Check the boards for
stocks with no potential. They never have any Bashers. Bashers only go after
stocks that are moving up or have excellent potential to do so. Bashers
work to bring the price down to either increase their position at the
expense of others or help a Short make their bones.
Lesson 2: BASHERS ALWAYS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES.
New startup companies always have a few bits of bad news. The Basher will
post this over and over again. Unsophisticated Bashers will try to freshen
up old news with a new date or by-line in an attempt to fool you.
Lesson 3: BASHERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY. They try to wear you out. They
comment on everything, every other post, and can answer every question. THEY
KNOW IT ALL! There is no positive comment they won't Bash. They try to
control the board. True longs may have to confront the Bashers or they will
appear to the newbies as being the people with all the information. This is
best accomplished by posting positive, well researched data on the company,
repetitively, while trying hard not to engage the Bashers in direct repartee
. REMEMBER - LONGS... RESIST USING THE BASHERS ALIAS!
Lesson 4: BASHERS WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE. Never trust a Basher. The truth on
startup companies is that they make mistakes. What new company hasn't? The
Basher will compare your issue to a another companies, financials - deals -
management, etc., trying to lure you into making an Apples to Oranges
comparison. Remember each company is unique and while it is prudent to seek
out established indicators, do so with care and don't take someone else's
word for it. Strive to come up with at least a "six-pack" of indicators so
your vision of the state of a company is not tied to a single barometer. Not
doing so is tantamount to going to a Race Track and betting on the "Pretty
Brown Horsey". BASHERS WANT TO WHISPER IN YOUR EAR - PLANT A SEED OF DOUBT,
AND HOPE THAT YOU ARE NOT SAVVY ENOUGH TO RESEARCH THE TRUTH ON YOUR OWN.
This is how they achieve their greatest success.
DOUBT + FEAR + LAZINESS = BAIL OUT!
This is your investment... work for it, protect it and don't panic on the
words of very shadowy figure that "has your best interest in their heart".
Consider that one factor: Someone you have never met, is not a member of
your family, is now, out of the goodness of their hearts - GIVING YOU FREE
ADVICE (that you didn't ask for). It's a no brainer. They have motives $$$$$
$$$$$$$.
Lesson 5: Bashers know YOU CAN'T VERIFY THEIR STATEMENTS. That's why they
make the vague statements they do. They rely on you being to lazy to
research their droppings other than to scan the board for others opinions.
This is particularly dangerous when you consider that Bashers work in packs
and often validate and back up each others nonsense with what appears to be
"innocuous and unsolicited" verification by comrade Bashers. Let's face it,
we are all conditioned to "believe" everything we see in writing. If others
by virtue of their "posts" also confirm this belief, then we are
subconsciously doomed to swallow the hook, line and sinker... Basher - 1
Honest Investor - 0
Lesson 6: The Bashers PLAY ON YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. They can lie about
information and you won't know the difference (unless you have done your own
DD on the company and know the truth and facts).
Lesson 7: Bashers play on your lack of patience. You have held a stock for a
while. You knew it will be a big stock someday, but the BASHER CAN GET TO
YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOUR GAIN. That's when the Basher
is best. You are tired. You have forgotten the goal for the stock was to
hold it for one year. The Basher is bothersome, so you dump it on a bad day.
Some others also dump. Then you get mad for your loss and return to let
everyone know how mad you are. Then you turn into a semi-Basher as well. THE
BASHER HAS WON, AND GAINED A NEW ALLY - YOU!
Lesson 8: BRING THE PRICE DOWN. That is the Basher's job. The truth is not
important. Lies are the norm. Post continuously on the board every day. They
are trying to scare the newbies that are just investigating a stock. They
are trying to wear down the faithful longs on the board and gain free reign
and control.
A BASHER HANDBOOK:
Do not underestimate a Bashers influence on a stock. The Pro's are good at
what they do and what they do is profit from your losses. Below is their "
hand-book". Learn from it or you will be donating your hard earned money to
them!
Rules for Successful Bashing:
1. Be anonymous
2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your
suggestions.
3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a
support base before initiating your Bashing routine.
4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.
6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.
7. Do not start with an all out slam of the stock. Build softly.
8. Identify your foes (Longs) and the boards "guru" Use them to
your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead.
9. Only Bash until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the
rest of the way.
10. Give the appearance of being open minded.
11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.
12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.
13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.
14. Don't worry about being labeled a "Basher". Newbies won't
know your history.
15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return in an hour
unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.
16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the run. Not to tank the
company or create a plunge in the stock; be subtle and consistent.
17. Kill the dreams of profits, not the company or the stock.
18. Use questions to create critical thinking. Statements to
reinforce facts.
19. DO NOT LIE, NAME CALL or USE PROFANITY.
20. Encourage people to call the company. 99% won't. They'll take your word
for claims made. If they do call you can always find something that is
inaccurate in how they report their findings.
21. Discourage people from believing Press Releases.
Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness.
22. If the companies history/PR's are negative constantly point to that.
Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts.
23. If the price rises blame it on the hype or the PR, temporary
mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock itself.
24. If other posters share your concerns, play on that and share theirs too.
25. Always cite low volume, even when it's not.
26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the longs.
27. Bait the Longs into personal debates putting their
focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from
facts.
28. Promote other stocks that would-be investors can turn to
instead of the one your Bashing.
30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a
game and you are playing it with your own rules.
Grade 'A' Basher:
If you post lots of old news, respond to all positive posts with a negative
side. Never respond to being called a Basher, never post on another board
with same alias. Can spend up to 80 hours a week Bashing a stock.
Grade 'B' Basher:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the
positive poster into confidence, never posts on another board, spends about
60 hours a week.
Grade 'C' Basher:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C
grade due to getting excited when Bashers rules say not to get excited,
spends about 40 hours a week.
Grade 'D' Basher:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a negative
statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours a
week.
Grade 'F' Basher:
A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about
stocks in general. The type that says a stock "sucks", but gives no
rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.
LEARN ABOUT HOW BASHERS WORK: For instance: did you know that some Bashers
are paid?
Golden Rule:
IGNORE THEM ...learn how professional Bashers are paid: When you REPLY to
Bashers you give them an opportunity to earn appox. 5-7 dollars. The service
agreement they enter into with their employer states their messages will be
monitored for content, profanity, lies, etc. but Overseers and the like don
't have the time to check all their Bashers messages. Only occasional spot
checks are done. Those who manage the Basher will generally read the
headlines to see if a Basher is replying to other posters by name. That
tells them the Basher isn't just "posting blindly" or repeating the same
message over and over since they won't pay for those.(True to form a Basher
will put the bite on anyone, even their unscrupulous employer). A Basher
will attempt to milk three to five replies per post at one to two dollars
each. This way the Basher spreads negative influence to as many stockholders
as possible. A Basher will create this discussion thread because it takes
less time reading more messages than is necessary. This ultimately allows
the Basher more time to post and make money. In general, NEVER ENGAGE A
BASHER. Make them read all the posts and think up ways to enter the
discussion. NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER; if you do so then YOU BECOME THE BASHER,S
AID! If you feel compelled to challenge a Basher do so without mentioning
his/her true alias in your response. This will make it hard for the Basher
to use your post as a revenue stream. Read the news, do your own homework
and make your own decisions. Get real time quotes and follow the stock for a
couple of weeks. Due Diligence is key here. Know that there will be a time
when the stock runs up which will be followed followed by the Bashers and
those that missed the boat. The Bashers will trash the stock by saying such
things as "it's a Pump and Dump" and "the company is lying" and deceiving.
There goal is to scare off newbies and potential new investors by "shaking"
you out of your shares. Take the time to confirm your DD ,trust your own
judgement and believe in yourself, pick your point of return or loss and
live with it. Don't listen to hype or Bashers trust your own judgement. Live
by the rules you have created .
HOW TO IDENTIFY A BASHER
1. Check the "Born on Date" Bashers create identities on a regular basis.
Rarely do you find a Basher with older "Created On" date. So click on the
Identity icon for more details.
2. Take the time to look at the Basher's history of Posts. Go to other
boards and see if their is a pattern to the theme of the posts. Bashers
rarely waste time trying to blend in with "positive" posts, unless they are
cultivating a new uninformed assistant.
3. When did the Basher show up. Bashers rarely show up when activity is in
at a Lull. They show up when activity up/down..
4. Bashers never answer direct questions except with another question.
5. Bashers do work in teams (sometimes themselves as a team). So be
suspicious of someone showing up and automatically having a Shadow to
converse with who supports their argument.
6. Bashers always select "an argument" that can never be resolved by
research.
The Basher 'Pack' Mentality
Bashers love to work in packs. It provides the quintessential cover to
achieve supposedly "independent" validation of an argument. It is neither
independent nor validating.
Pack Structure: Basher Packs can be comprised of any number of Bashers. They
can be purposely formed within an organization or they can be "ad hoc"
formed during a conclave on a particular board. In fact a pack mentality can
be achieved by an ambitious "party of one" with a few select aliases.
Once a pack is formed, a leader emerges. This leader is usually acknowledged
by other Bashers because of 1. Knowledge of the stock. or 2. Recognition by
current board Longs (high visibility). Once established the Leader will
usually work the Pack members up in to a posting frenzy. Constantly changing
themes and even occasionally biting the ear of another pack member (this
earns instant credibility), and it doesn't offend the bitten Basher because
he/she knows it is all part of the effect. Quite sophisticated.
Packs will disband and slink away without notice. Usually this is the call
of the Pack Leader who is adept at recognizing overplay. More often than not
, Pack members must move on because they have other Bashing commitments to
fulfill. They will return to the site of a good hunt over and over again,
until hamstringing is achieved.
What calls a pack together. The Cry of the Leader. Certain Bashers love to
work together. They know each others bite, how to feign in and out, it is a
well choreographed Bash when pack members have worked together before. They
constantly check their "Sites Du Jour" for signs of Pack activity.
Occasionally they will throw out a "Nibbler" Bash to see if the pack
responds or if not they can work the site themselves. It's all about
effectiveness, time and earning money. | n*****4
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发帖数: 1511 | 3 英语镇复杂
陈关系出来没两天就让我们发现了。他还给英文网站写pump的稿子。
pumpers use similar strategies to "pumping a stock". When you are browsing
a
to these rules.
chen". Those posts certainly belong to the category of "pumping a stock".
is the very first
purpose of this post is only for providing more information to pennystockers
【在 v**********m 的大作中提到】
: I am wondering if someone has posted it in the pennystock club. I do think pumpers use similar strategies to "pumping a stock". When you are browsing a
: stock forum other than this pennystock club, please pay close attentions to these rules.
: I saw quite a few posts in the "stock" forum by someone called "guanxi chen". Those posts certainly belong to the category of "pumping a stock".
: The most important thing is to do your own homework. Reading SEC fillings is the very first
: thing need to be done for a serious investor.
: Disclaimers: I do not intentionally offend any persons in this club. The purpose of this post is only for providing more information to pennystockers
: here.
: -by var.
: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
: The Bashers Handbook
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