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b**i
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发信人: Starbugs (星巴哥), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: We are at the dawn of a history moment
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Nov 25 01:02:36 2010, 美东)
是长江北岸吧。请记住,想要过江,要么跳水,要么坐飞机,即使坐飞机,也要小心被
打下来。
你的作战方式跟常凯伸有得一拼。光头的作战方式是,国军如果失手,则要么keep
quiet, 要么发通告:国军已成功躲过共匪之围剿,已经逃了。如果共匪失手,则电告
全国:扫清共匪,国军之胜利指日可待。所以,光头的下场就是,蜗居一岛,喊了一辈
子反攻大陆,最后客死异乡。
还是讲讲打仗吧,书上说作战讲究天时,地利,人和。古板人熊牛不分,是牛人还是人
牛不得而知,何况有些熊人头上没长角却偏偏喜欢冒充牛人,所以我们先不谈人。所谓
天时地利就是在哪里打,什么时候打。算算时间查查地图,看看孟良崮战役是什么时候
喊打的,在什么位置开打的。战役都快结束了,已经在在打扫战场肃清残敌了,有人竟
还没有感觉到,问敌人在哪里。估计这样的人,要么是一赵括,只会纸上谈兵,要么是
被杀懵了,不知所措。从孟良崮都被打到沈阳了,还在想着渡江呢。要过江,至少也要
先过孟良崮吧。
事实上,现在的大盘形势仍然无法确定是上是下,大盘纠缠在均线之间,可上可下。大
概因为指数接近底部,所以牛眼看牛,认为迟早会向上,这跟看到别人八十了喊他迟早
会死但却不敢喊他明天一定会死一样,没有多大意义。就像大家都说翁帆很快要做寡妇
了,可人家老杨就是不死,并且正在enjoy his happy time.
现在大盘接近到底,但是现在并没有明显的翻转信号,也没有明显的趋势,但这种隔天
大涨大跌的情况更可能是向下,并且一旦向下,几天就可以摔死很多牛牛,因为这种不
稳状态一旦选择了方向,不管向上向下,会很猛。大盘应该进一步下探,因为从高点的
调整幅度太小,但现在牛熊再加上人都在眼巴巴地等Christmas rally,所以现在才不
上不下。如果不谈下跌幅度,即使向下,最长两周内到底是确定无疑的。但是,如果向
下,一到两周内会有无数的牛牛尸体来填坑。当然,也可能这两天快速突破均线开始向
上,如果发生了,什么问题也说明不了。股市里没有恒定的牛熊,进可攻退可守是生存
之道,在情况不确定的情况下,别瞎喊,是积德。
最后,关于现在谁在daydreaming, 有四种可能,牛在daydreaming,熊在daydreaming
,牛熊都在daydreaming,两者都没有daydreaming,当然开可以加上个Not Applicable
的选项。用四分之一或五分之一的可能性来下结论,是疯牛行为。
Finally, it would be a pleasure if you're the enemy in a battlefield because
everything from you are predictable, including your watering behavior on
this board;)
is
b**i
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发信人: Lexian (蒙古大夫), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: We are at the dawn of a history moment
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Nov 25 01:20:45 2010, 美东)
i like your way of argument: if the market goes the way you say, didn't mean
you win, if the market didn't go your way, of course you lose. In this
sense, you are more in the line of 流氓逻辑 that makes 常凯生 famous. Don't
you agree? The fact is, i pay attention to the market, not people, except
the very few who dont' have much to show on a stock board, however loves to
gossip and moan like a long tongued bitch.
b**i
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发信人: Starbugs (星巴哥), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: We are at the dawn of a history moment
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Nov 25 17:02:54 2010, 美东)
我就知道,在吃上火鸡之前,有人肯定会来倒我胃口。不然,You're fully
predictable 这个结论真是白下了。
我还真不知道你真是一卖药的,虽然看着确实很象。我没卖过药,所以没法给人开药,
不过我对有些现象不是很理解,你是卖药的,能给解释一下吗,为什么有些秃子总喜欢
卖章光101?为什么有些卖sedative的却很容易激动?为什么卖药的自己不先服一点?
至于我从没有在版上make predictions,那是因为有自知之明,水平太烂,不想误人子
弟。所以,我对有些长得像熊,看起来像熊,走起来像熊的东西天天在那学牛样不是很
理解,当然也不感冒。
关于Buffet,看来你对他的了解跟你对股市的了解水平差不多。Buffet从不预测股市,
他只在1997年破过一次例,他也说过股市短期方向难以预测。他更不会在股板发帖子,
天天熊装牛样,瞎喊盘,他每年只在年底给股东写一封信。关于Buffet,如果你供上
1000个包子,我可以给你上上课。
至于我是不是envy success, 我不是很确定,但是,有一点可以肯定,即使我envy
success到死,你也不在此列,You're not qualified to be a target。至于我是不是
只能fight keyboard,我也不做评论。但是,这种枉自推断和胡言乱语,倒是很有必要
注射一点sedative。作为矫治你这种病症,我提个建议,能不能贴贴你账户,晒晒你有
多success,看看你交的税比我多多少,也让我真正envy一下。这年头,跳大神的我见
过很多,真神我还没见过。如果你同意,我会先贴我的,我可以贴出全年交易记录。本
人8万起家,两年半,盈利5.2倍。即使你有千万,如果不超过5.2倍,你就给我闭嘴。
敢吗?
最后,提个建议,咱能不能不用鸟语。这好像是我二次提醒你,要说你能说顺流了也行
。To be honest, 我见过说英语烂的,但是没见过你这么烂的,更没见过这么烂还这么
喜欢讲英语的。词不达意,语法混乱,实在令人叹为观止。你每篇帖子语法错误如果少
于一打,那简直就是奇迹。我真想到贴10个包子,帮你补习一下英语,免得你卖错药害
死人。
不过,最后还是希望你have a happy holiday!
b**i
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发信人: Lexian (蒙古大夫), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: We are at the dawn of a history moment
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Nov 25 19:14:29 2010, 美东)
这个解说不难, 但也得看你是不是个料。 让你给巴费寄简历, 就是让你去证明你自
己号称的"特别是大方向: 并不难,根本不需要高深的知识,大多数人都能看明白"。
巴费自己说做不到, 你能轻易做到, 他不得envy你吗? 人还在找接班人。 你去挑了
就得了。 用不着自己trade来trade去, 更不用急忙忙在这买弄你有多了解巴费, 这
根本不是我关心的事。 这种理解力也能。。。 嗨, 费我口舌。
至于大盘, 可上可下的predicament就省了吧, 也不是你的首创。 上可至多少, 下
可到几何的预言版上从来不缺。自己留着回头标版吧。 还有你的5x之类,最新的标竿
很像是一年10x了。 5x太次了。 呵呵。
b**i
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发信人: Starbugs (星巴哥), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: We are at the dawn of a history moment
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Nov 25 19:31:38 2010, 美东)
别罗索,能不能贴贴你的10x,我说了,你只要同意跟贴,我会先贴我的5x。其他都JB
是废话。
巴费你还是少提吧,他无法给你提高身价,事实上他与股版的任何人都不搭界。我们既
然在股板则言股版,先把这里的牛鬼蛇神弄清楚再说巴费不迟。
改中文了哈,这下看着舒服多了;)
b**i
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发信人: Lexian (蒙古大夫), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: 请教大夫
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Dec 5 13:28:24 2010, 美东)
书还是那些,精华区里好多。关键还是怎么用。先学学怎样判断一个trade. 新手要关
注的是winning rate, 而不是return rate. 那种一上来就是开户几周就几x之类的bso
对新手的危害最大了。 其它的马后bso也是属于直接掠过一类。但古板是很多人灌水取
乐的地方, 也没法禁的了, 新手要自己学吸取。
return has to be evaluated based on RISK. taking enormous risk to get a
return wont' last long. most ppl won't reveal the risk side. therefore you
can't objectively evaluate the return, a trade, however, can be evaluated
on several criterias: entry, holding, and exit
1. entry: don't have to get the lowest entry price, but don't get
underwater after you enter. emphasis should be put on the later. above water
make your exit much easier. for example, if you get 10% underwter for a
trade aiming to get 15% return, its a fail no matter eventually u lost money
or not.
2. holding: did u get chase out position prematurely? learn how to decipher
a reversal vs. major correction vs pull back. did u anticipated that?
3. exit: see how much portion of the trend was caught, if >50% a A+, >25%
a A. > 10% a B. >5% a C, everything else a D. u can adjust the scale
accordingly as your skill improve. the goal is to evaluate your own trades
objectively.
lastly, don't ever be fooled by somebody's claim of "靠操作挣钱”that's a
telltale sign of "zhuangB". execution can trim your loss, never make u
money, they can get lucky, but nothing consistant. that's why i can't stand
people dishing out craps like daytrade your way to new high from a losing
trade.
b**i
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发信人: Starbugs (星巴哥), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: 请教大夫
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Dec 5 20:12:30 2010, 美东)
装B真是一种本性,有些人两天不装B就会憋死,这种人真是救都救不了。你是一个卖药
的大夫,好像还是位父亲,但你在本板表现出来的maturity大概不会比你儿子更高。你
对待与你意见相左的人和对待这个世界尖酸刻薄实属罕见,超过了我见过的所有悍妇。
前两天本版有人说过,人品是天生的,有些人或许还能改好,有些人就这样了,那些改
不好的,不知对他自己是个悲哀,还是对这个世界是个悲哀。
你对这个世界的理解相当狭隘。这个世界里成功的人很多,他们并不需要干同样的事情
,即使做同样的事情也不需要用同样的方式。就说挣钱,有人办企业,有人搞地产,有
人贩毒,天上人间夜总会的小姐都可能比你挣得多,你怎么没有歇斯底里?在股市更是
如此,有价值投资的巴肥,有投机的hedge fund,还有无数靠day trade维生的day
trader,本版还有一夜暴富的大傻蛋,他们用不同的方式在诠释着他们的成功或失败,
是否他们必须要采取你的方式?是否他们因与你炒股方式不一样就都是loser? 就都是
在装B?我想你和他们之间可能有一方是装B的,但我感觉不是他们。
就本版来讲,新手不断涌现,绝对不是你来两句‘操作是装B只要关注winning rate'就
能解决他们的困惑。其实你这句话是句P话,相当于什么都每说,因为它与‘股市里什
么都是装B,只要你赚’一样。事实上就混股市的最基本原则来讲,任何人高屋见瓴地
指点青蛙,都是地道地装B。因为这些原则或信条已经被说烂了,并且时不时就会有帖
子出来重复,例如不追高,不盲从,及时止损,等等。青蛙需要的不是这些东西,这些
他们已经知道,恰恰相反,他需要的是管住自己的手,是操作。任何一次亏损,他一定
可以发现他违反了一条他熟知且已经被说滥了原则。对于青蛙,操作的重要性远大于掌
握股市大道理,因为管住自己的手更难。而且,操作有时比看清趋势更重要,因为趋势
只能预测,而你的手完全由你控制。这也是所谓follow trend要说的东西,可是你似乎
不懂。其实,你自己也在利用操作,但是你却认为操作是装B,看来你对自己认识很全
面。举个例子,我记忆里你曾推荐重庆鸡,并且说你不会投资短线,它要长到70以上。
后来你跑了,从你要它涨到70以上到你跑了,用了几天?你看错了方向而及时止损靠得
是不是操作?是不是操作救了你?你是不是在装B? 另外,你说bso几x的是装B, 自己去
翻翻你自己的帖子,看看你在个股上已经装B了多少次。
青蛙需要的不是跳大神的,更不需要你告诉他们他们只能用你的方式,只有你的意见才
是唯一真理。事实上,只看重操作可能是装B, 你的方式更可能是装B,他们需要的是自
己去尝试,呛了水才会知道怎么才能不淹死,他们需要参考不同意见和建议并尝试最后
找到适合自己的方式,没有失败过就直接成为大牛的青蛙不存在,任何人装B,装牛,
装神对他们都没有好处,何况有些游泳教练被扔进水里会被淹死。
最后,你的推理能力让我很感兴趣,你有根据一点就能肆意推测的天赋,例如,有人贴
个当天交易记录,你会他只做day trade,有人怀疑你的意见,你会认为别人嫉妒你的
成功,有人出示一种方式,你会认为他只会一种方式,我认为这已经不仅仅属于人品问
题,而是应该去看心理医生,而你本身就是大夫,真是情何以堪。另外,股市如战场,
战场上有文武只分,你显然不是武将,因为只闻其声不见其人,而文人论战也有赵括和
曹刿之分,你是赵括呢还是曹刿?
此贴目的不是引起争论,如用词不当,我感到抱歉。但是,说明一点,不管网上网下,
我向来不避战不怯战,如果不战,更可能是出于同情。所以,套用你一句话,今后你最
好论你的股别论人,除非你以论人为乐。
b**i
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发信人: Lexian (蒙古大夫), 信区: Stock
标 题: about zhuangB
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Dec 6 17:17:13 2010, 美东)
in my definition, someone pretend to be something better than they really
are - zhuangB. I generally don't go after any one particular. But I will
make a exception today because i think it is one biggest issue for a long
time on this board, for newbies at least.
a few clues to recognize a 装B犯。
1. talking lofty about human nature, EGO etc without even understand some
of most basic defense mechanism. It is hard for someone to realized that
they themself sux, even for CSCO's Chamber. On delivering a bad ER below
everyone's expectation, He is NOT going to say i sucked, i made a mistake,
rather he would say "共军太厉害了", understand? taking that for granted to
support a argument (filthy mouth to go along with it) and repeat it over and
over not only shows stupidity, but truely sound like a 八哥, i don't
believe a 八哥 knows much about EGO.
2. Enjoy palying with flimsy word with no meat in it. i have said that
flamboyance don't mean sh*t on a stock board. Not matter how color your
paint a picture, CRAP is CRAP and WRONG is WRONG. If you even half ass
believe the crap you wrote, u ARE the dead body laying down the cliff, or at
least got two of your stinky feet amputated.
3. idiotically act like a master that will "TEACH" somebody about something
. I do like to learn, but don't waste my time or your time if you can't
even understand the logic. I gave what i know to people asking for opinion,
did i say that was the only way? did i ever say i'm the MOST successful?
not even close. I know there are many just on this board that are much
better than me, but they kept quiet, mostly because pesty IDs who can't say
anything meaningful but act like a master to discourage. i try best to
learn from and correct my own mistake and willing to share the experience
with other. what is wrong in your f*cking twisted little mind so that you
even come to pour garbages like you did?
b**i
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发信人: Starbugs (星巴哥), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: about zhuangB
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Dec 6 21:50:08 2010, 美东)
What a crap! You really made my day. ;-) A fuckface is always fuckface and a
dickhead is always a dickhead. I used to have some doubt on these words and
thought a dickhead might be able to behave more like a human being if I
treat him like a human being, but I'm fully convinced after seeing your
gawky performance as a dickhead on this board. Although behaving more like a
charlatan, you're a self-claimed doctor, so you must know the symptoms of
an exhibitionist, that is, he can't suppress his desire to expose his penis.
I heard from a veterinarian that the only treatment to an exhibitionist is
to knock his dick as long as he exposes it. So I plan to knock yours again.
You gave a not bad definition of a ZhuangB crap; however, it's really not
necessary for you to do that because you are a prefect definition of a
ZhuangB crap yourself. A ZhuangB bluffer loves to make an empty show of his
stock knowledge but can show nothing substantial when challenged; A ZhuangB
bluffer loves to babble the tax he paid was more than other's salary but
could show nothing substantial but a babbling pussy; A ZhuangB bluffer said
the only way to show stock knowledge and skill is prediction when other
people showed their execution records; A ZhuangB bluffer loves to say 'my xx
is an easy xx bagger' on this board but hates to see other people say the
same thing; A ZhuangB bluffer loves to say 'I've exited safely with profit'
when his pick was in the wrong direction or disappeared when his pick
dropped like shit and reappeared saying 'I was busy these days' when the
drop stopped; A ZhuangB bluffer applied the basic stop loss technique to
save his own poor life but taught others operation techniques are bullshit;
A ZhuangB bluffer loves to shit on exactly the same things he has been and
is doing; A ZhuangB bluffer can't face and answer any direct questions to
him as a man but to insinuate and shit around like an impotent lily.
Sometimes, this world is just amazing. A crap charlatan claimed to be a
doctor but he is more than anybody else that needs to see a doctor. He loved
to attack anybody who throws even the slightest doubt on him but chickened
when was really challenged. He used his crappy English to shit around and
struggled to show his morbid and empty strength but didn't understand the
more he shit around the more impotent he proved himself, both in personality
and mentality.
Regarding human nature, I did have planned to teach you something, but I
just changed my idea because now I don't think you're mentally capable of
understanding it. However, I need to tell you anyway that ZhuangB belongs to
the category of human nature and it's usually the responsibility of a
psychologist for a treatment although, in your particular case, I think you'
d better see a psychiatrist.
最後に、あなたに2つの提案を与える。まず、あなたのみすぼらしい英語を使うこと
のを中止してください、それは私が少し吐くことができます。あなたは、株式市場で
の操作の上に装逼をしただけではなく、このBBSボード上のポストの言語にも装逼を
した。なぜ中国のBBSボード上の英語を使うのですか? あなたは装逼をしなければ死
んでしまうか? 装逼とか嘔吐のような気分とか どんなものか知っていますか?これ
です! 第二に、あなたは既にあなたが何であるかを明確に示されてきている。私はも
うあなたとの時間を無駄にしたくない、それは価値がないからです。だから、あなた
が今から性交自分ができます。
Fuck youself and good luck!
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position, position and position闭关锁国很好啊
哭,$199958就这么被瓜分position, position and position
@外国势力插手香港,应该对访客要求签证哭,$199958就这么被瓜分
居然会有人认为Trump不交税makes him smart?疯了吗? (转载)damn...
about zhuangBAA抓bluff
请教大夫I got Fxxxxx in Mohegan yesterday
当中国媳妇对上了美国婆婆when your bluffcatcher is not as strong as the bluffer..
安大略湖又发现人体残骸 加拿大近月第4宗碎尸案The toughest call I have ever made!
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