l*****n
发帖数: 2446 | 1 正在研究行星互容，看到 Tyl 的这篇分析，感觉很生动，豁然开朗不少
The Subtle Powers of Mutual Reception
“Mutual Reception” reminds me of time-share house-swaps: you have an
apartment in New York City and want to summer in Florence; someone in
Florence wants to come to New York at the same time. The deal is made, you
live in each other’s domain, getting very close together without ever
meeting, and the cooperation touches both lives.
It also reminds me of a magician and his assistant: the performer and his
helper sharing a highly integrated performing rapport; the former is seen,
the latter need not be, and the effect is remarkable!
Mutual Reception in astrology occurs when two planets relate by the fact
that each is in the sign ruled by the other; that’s time-share swap. And
when the two planets in each other’s domain are ALSO in aspect, the wedding
of energies can be magical dramatic.
For example, the great actress/singer Cher (May 20, 1946 at 7:31 AM PST, El
Centro CA) has a Cancer Ascendant with Saturn in Cancer in the first House.
The Moon is in Capricorn, ruled by Saturn, in the 7th House, and the two
planets, besides being in mutual reception, are also in opposition to each
other.
This is an extremely powerful statement in the horoscope. I would synthesize
it as “finding the Self (the Moon, ruling the Ascendant) through others (
Saturn ruling the 7th).” This highly focused statement crashes into the
horoscope through the door opened by Neptune in the 4th, squaring the
Ascendant: confusion, bewilderment, in the early home [Cher’s father
abandoned the family the day Cher was born]. Father surrogate outreach would
have dominated Cher’s early years of development and begun in earnest with
the arrival of Sonny Bono, much her senior, when she was 16 years old.
Michael Jackson’s (August 29, 1958 at 11:53 PM CDT in Gary , IN) Sun is in
Virgo and Mercury-retrograde is in Leo. The two are in mutual reception but
not in aspect. Each will reach to fuse with the other (a seasoning of
idealism), and both will do so in terms of the House(s) involved by location
and rulership.
The two planets occur along with Pluto, which is conjunct the Sun, in the
4th House, suggesting a major suppression and frustration within the early
home. This could be relegated to the contrapuntal retrogradation complexity
of Mercury. Mercury rules the 5th, introducing the concept of childhood,
children, part of the sex profile. –Mercury also rules Jackson’s Gemini
Ascendant; this mutual reception influence involving the 4th House, the 5th,
and the Ascendant, the mind and life energy in development out of the early
home sing a powerful idealized song of hope in his make-up.
Prince Charles (November 14, 1948 at 9:14 PM in London, ENG) has the
powerful, sub-generational mutual reception between Pluto and the Sun –
Pluto in Leo and the Sun in Scorpio—with the two in square aspect.
We feel a tremendous suppression of the powers to be. There is a blanket
over Charles’ hand-grenade. The lid is tight on his pressure cooker. –With
the Sun ruling his Ascendant, Pluto in the Ascendant, ruling the 5th, we
readily suspect the focus of his frustrations in terms of loving another,
being himself securely and openly (Neptune-Venus are on the IC!).
Actor Tom Cruise (July 3, 1962 at 3:06 PM EDT in Syracuse NY) has the Sun
in Cancer and the Moon in Leo: a definite self-dramatization, acting out
needs for appreciation and love. There can be a show of “rightness” that
helps with understanding and acceptance by others. There’s an impression of
pride and self-confidence established, and others believe it.
For Cruise, the Sun rules the Midheaven and provides the much needed anchor
here for the peregrine Moon (dissociation complex), unable to fit in easily
anywhere, constantly on the move, feeling lost. The Sun is in a water grand
trine with Neptune and Jupiter: a closed-circuit of emotional self-
sufficiency, which is led by rulership by the Sun of the Midheaven directly
into career development. Cruise is his vocation. It defines him. It saves
him.
Brilliant comedian, director, and philanthropist Jerry Lewis (March 16, 1926
at 12:15 PM EST in Newark NJ) has Sun and Neptune in mutual reception, but
not in aspect. The Sun is intensified by the exact conjunction with Uranus,
and the Sun rules the financial 2nd. –Neptune, in the 2nd ,with all its
theatricality (Neptune=MC/Asc), rules the Midheaven. The mutual reception
between Sun and Neptune links all of their experiential references together.
Toweringly celebrated evangelist Billy Graham (November 7, 1918 at 3:30 PM
EST in Charlotte NC) has the Moon in Sagittarius, conjunct the Midheaven and
Mars with Jupiter in Cancer quindecile the Midheaven, ruling the 9th House
and trine the Sun! --No more need be said about the link of lofty
opinionation, internationalism, education, and profession!
Sarah Ferguson (October 15, 1959 at 9:03 AM GMT in London ENG) has Mercury
and Pluto in mutual reception and sextile. Mercury rules the MC and Pluto on
the Midheaven (exhibitionism) rules the Ascendant. This links very, very
strongly, the establishment of personal identity with the formulation of a
major career. Ferguson could no more be kept hidden behind a stifling royal
marriage than a bull could be kept out of a china shop!
I wish I had a dollar for every time I said, “I live in my Venus-Uranus
quintile”! This creative measurement is so very strong because Venus is in
Aquarius and Uranus is in Taurus; the two are in tight quintile aspect and
also are in mutual reception! (Noel Tyl: December 31 at 3:57 PM EST in West
Chester PA).
Uranus rules the 9th where Venus is located: I have published 30 books,
lectured throughout 18 countries, and had long relationships with several
foreign-born ladies. –Venus rules the 5th . | d****c
发帖数: 211 | 2 多谢分享！
挺subtle的：上面Cher的例子月亮土星其实都处在失势位置，但mutual reception并且
是冲相。 | d****c
发帖数: 211 | 3 有几个问题：
为什么mutual reception考虑的是入庙关系而不是入旺，比如"by definition", 水星
在金牛同时金星在水瓶并不是mutual reception？
比如水瓶座，采用守护星土星（古典）还是天王星（现代）？ | l*****n
发帖数: 2446 | 4 rulership and exaltation
入庙，入旺都可以
定义是：
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/mutual-reception.php
是一种对应，A 在 B 家， B 在A 家，两颗行星，同时交换房子住，
前提是，两颗星，必须是同一“级别”的，而且同时交换。
这是一种互相引导和交流的关系，positive 的作用。
对于同时有两颗守护星的星座， 摩羯，水瓶，双鱼，两颗守护星都可以。
因为，任何一张盘，该盘的任一课行星，肯定只能落在一个星座。
【在 d****c 的大作中提到】
: 有几个问题：
: 为什么mutual reception考虑的是入庙关系而不是入旺，比如"by definition", 水星
: 在金牛同时金星在水瓶并不是mutual reception？
: 比如水瓶座，采用守护星土星（古典）还是天王星（现代）？
| l*****n
发帖数: 2446 | 5 这篇也是分析 互容的
核心就是，看到盘里有互容的情况，一定两颗星一起分析，然后再分析两个星直接的力
量对比。
我觉得或许任何一种情况（庙弱旺陷）都可以，只要两颗星是同一级别。
http://www.alanoken.com/newsletter/Dec07/newsletter1207d.html
【在 d****c 的大作中提到】
: 有几个问题：
: 为什么mutual reception考虑的是入庙关系而不是入旺，比如"by definition", 水星
: 在金牛同时金星在水瓶并不是mutual reception？
: 比如水瓶座，采用守护星土星（古典）还是天王星（现代）？
| d****c
发帖数: 211 | 6 从统计角度来看，我觉得超过1/3的盘是有互容现象的。
对了，你有研究过中点，ASC与MC中点说明了啥？谢谢。 | d****c
发帖数: 211 | 7 很感谢，请教下
除了Sue Tompkins的书，还有什么你特别非常推荐的吗，针对星盘分析？
并祝新春快乐！
【在 l*****n 的大作中提到】
: rulership and exaltation
: 入庙，入旺都可以
: 定义是：
: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/mutual-reception.php
: 是一种对应，A 在 B 家， B 在A 家，两颗行星，同时交换房子住，
: 前提是，两颗星，必须是同一“级别”的，而且同时交换。
: 这是一种互相引导和交流的关系，positive 的作用。
: 对于同时有两颗守护星的星座， 摩羯，水瓶，双鱼，两颗守护星都可以。
: 因为，任何一张盘，该盘的任一课行星，肯定只能落在一个星座。
| l*****n
发帖数: 2446 | 8 有的，貌似tyl 分析太阳弧都会用中点理论的。
哪颗星落在 asc mc 的中点位置？
我全部贴给你吧
MC/AS=SO To have close professional contact with others. Working together.
MC/SO=AS The mental and professional attitude toward others.
AS/SO=MC Personal conduct toward other people. The impression made by the
personal environment on the native. | G****r
发帖数: 3023 | 9 月MM简直是百科全书啊，太赞了~
you
his
seen,
【在 l*****n 的大作中提到】
: 正在研究行星互容，看到 Tyl 的这篇分析，感觉很生动，豁然开朗不少
: The Subtle Powers of Mutual Reception
: “Mutual Reception” reminds me of time-share house-swaps: you have an
: apartment in New York City and want to summer in Florence; someone in
: Florence wants to come to New York at the same time. The deal is made, you
: live in each other’s domain, getting very close together without ever
: meeting, and the cooperation touches both lives.
: It also reminds me of a magician and his assistant: the performer and his
: helper sharing a highly integrated performing rapport; the former is seen,
: the latter need not be, and the effect is remarkable!
| l*****n
发帖数: 2446 | 10 符号，我注一下，其实估计不注你也看得明白的 ：）
sol ：sun
mo： moon
me：mercury
ve： venus
ma： mars
ju： jupiter
sa： saturn
后面三个分别就是天海冥。。。
【在 l*****n 的大作中提到】
: 有的，貌似tyl 分析太阳弧都会用中点理论的。
: 哪颗星落在 asc mc 的中点位置？
: 我全部贴给你吧
: MC/AS=SO To have close professional contact with others. Working together.
: MC/SO=AS The mental and professional attitude toward others.
: AS/SO=MC Personal conduct toward other people. The impression made by the
: personal environment on the native.
| | | d****c
发帖数: 211 | 11 灰常感谢！
找到了，我现在关心
MC/AS=MO One's behavior toward women. Professional relations to the public
and women.
【在 l*****n 的大作中提到】
: 符号，我注一下，其实估计不注你也看得明白的 ：）
: sol ：sun
: mo： moon
: me：mercury
: ve： venus
: ma： mars
: ju： jupiter
: sa： saturn
: 后面三个分别就是天海冥。。。
| l*****n
发帖数: 2446 | 12 偶们大家一起来专研，吼吼~~
【在 G****r 的大作中提到】
: 月MM简直是百科全书啊，太赞了~
:
: you
: his
: seen,
| l*****n
发帖数: 2446 | 13 有的， Noel Tyl 的 有本红宝书
Sythesis & Counseling in Astrology
里面大篇幅的星盘案例分析
还有， Stephen Arroyo 的书也是经典
比如这本
http://www.cafeastrology.com/reviews/arroyochartinterpretation.
【在 d****c 的大作中提到】
: 很感谢，请教下
: 除了Sue Tompkins的书，还有什么你特别非常推荐的吗，针对星盘分析？
: 并祝新春快乐！
| d****c
发帖数: 211 | 14 恩，Stephen Arroyo好像是瓶子，
瓶子的书我真的蛮喜欢！
【在 l*****n 的大作中提到】
: 有的， Noel Tyl 的 有本红宝书
: Sythesis & Counseling in Astrology
: 里面大篇幅的星盘案例分析
: 还有， Stephen Arroyo 的书也是经典
: 比如这本
: http://www.cafeastrology.com/reviews/arroyochartinterpretation.
| d****c
发帖数: 211 | 15 Stephen Arroyo是上升水瓶。
Have to flatter you: 第三次out of三次赞你的形象！
来自Venus,毫无疑问啦
【在 l*****n 的大作中提到】
: 有的， Noel Tyl 的 有本红宝书
: Sythesis & Counseling in Astrology
: 里面大篇幅的星盘案例分析
: 还有， Stephen Arroyo 的书也是经典
: 比如这本
: http://www.cafeastrology.com/reviews/arroyochartinterpretation.
| w********y
发帖数: 1768 | 16 看来MM已经搞定上次我问你的关于中点的问题了
问个题外的，宿命点和福点的相位影响大吗？尤其对于出生图中相位比例大
【在 l*****n 的大作中提到】
: 有的，貌似tyl 分析太阳弧都会用中点理论的。
: 哪颗星落在 asc mc 的中点位置？
: 我全部贴给你吧
: MC/AS=SO To have close professional contact with others. Working together.
: MC/SO=AS The mental and professional attitude toward others.
: AS/SO=MC Personal conduct toward other people. The impression made by the
: personal environment on the native.
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