w*****i
发帖数: 111 | 1 Contact: (415) 703-5837
SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today announced the
arraignment of two individuals who allegedly bought large numbers of stolen
smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong, raking in nearly $4
million in less than a year. The arraignment follows a six-month, multi-
state investigation into the trafficking of stolen smart phones by the
California Attorney General’s eCrime Unit.
“This international theft ring used fraud and deceit to steal smartphones
and exploit the homeless,” said Attorney General Harris. “I applaud the
hard work of our Special Agents whose tenacious investigation put an end to
this criminal enterprise.”
Defendants Shou Lin Wen, 39, of Sacramento, and Yuting Tan, 27, of
Sacramento, were arrested on March 6 and arraigned today on eight felony
counts of money laundering, grand theft, possession of stolen property and
conspiracy. They are being held in Sacramento County Jail on $1 million bail
each.
According to the arrest warrant, co-conspirators in the scheme enlisted
individuals from homeless shelters to purchase multiple smart phones such as
the Apple iPhone, Samsung Galaxy and Blackberry from cell phone carriers.
Carriers allow individuals to purchase up to five phones in their name under
one plan at a discounted rate. The straw purchasers then delivered the
phones to the co-conspirators for a nominal payment. It is alleged that the
straw purchasers never intended to follow through with paying for the phones
’ contracts which, under California law, constitutes committing theft by
false pretenses and designates the phones as stolen property.
Hundreds of stolen phones were then bundled from across the country by
middlemen and sent to Wen and Tan, the scheme’s ringleaders, in California.
Wen and Tan profited by shipping the stolen phones to Hong Kong, where
iPhones can go for as much as $2,000.
Special Agents with the eCrime Unit conducted surveillance operations and
tracked parcels across the country to identify the ringleaders. According to
the arrest warrant, agents intercepted four of the 110 parcels shipped by
Wen and Tan to Hong Kong during the past 12 months. The 412 phones seized
from these packages were traced back to phony customers as far away as North
Carolina.
During an eight-month period, the defendants’ business self-reported gross
sales of $3,948,485.
On March 6, Special Agents with the eCrime Unit conducted an undercover
operation in the Sacramento West Marine parking lot, during which they
offered to sell 408 “stolen” iPhone 4s and iPhone 5s to Wen and Tan. The
defendants agreed to pay $60,600 in cash for 163 phones and were arrested
after producing the cash.
In 2011, Attorney General Harris created the eCrime Unit to investigate and
prosecute identity theft crimes, cyber crimes and other crimes involving the
use of technology.
Photos, and the complaint are attached to the electronic version of this
release at: |
c******n
发帖数: 16666 | 2 恩 果然还是办plan 然后拿手机走人
话说hobo也有ssn？ |
e*****n
发帖数: 873 | 3 以后还有人敢收有plan的吗
Contact: (415) 703-5837SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today
announced t........
【在 w*****i 的大作中提到】
: Contact: (415) 703-5837
: SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today announced the
: arraignment of two individuals who allegedly bought large numbers of stolen
: smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong, raking in nearly $4
: million in less than a year. The arraignment follows a six-month, multi-
: state investigation into the trafficking of stolen smart phones by the
: California Attorney General’s eCrime Unit.
: “This international theft ring used fraud and deceit to steal smartphones
: and exploit the homeless,” said Attorney General Harris. “I applaud the
: hard work of our Special Agents whose tenacious investigation put an end to
|
m********s
发帖数: 414 | 4 吓死了，原来是：
stolen
smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong
Stolen的！ |
m********s
发帖数: 414 | 5 如果说收购那种合约机，就是没有full payment 之前拿走的手机算违法，那么收购无
锁N4或者无锁iphone5呢？ |
m********s
发帖数: 414 | 6 难道这就是神医不主动收购iphone原因， 因为怕有人拿着有锁的手机当作无锁手机卖
？ |
M*******1
发帖数: 4037 | |
L**i
发帖数: 22365 | |
P*******o
发帖数: 1396 | 9 东窗事发了，原来合同机不履行就跑违法这么严重啊。 |
t**s
发帖数: 4026 | 10
stolen
to
bail
as
under
the
phones
California.
to
North
gross
这个太坏了,估计undercover就是跟他们说有合同机,到这里变成了"stolen"
and
the
【在 w*****i 的大作中提到】
: Contact: (415) 703-5837
: SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today announced the
: arraignment of two individuals who allegedly bought large numbers of stolen
: smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong, raking in nearly $4
: million in less than a year. The arraignment follows a six-month, multi-
: state investigation into the trafficking of stolen smart phones by the
: California Attorney General’s eCrime Unit.
: “This international theft ring used fraud and deceit to steal smartphones
: and exploit the homeless,” said Attorney General Harris. “I applaud the
: hard work of our Special Agents whose tenacious investigation put an end to
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g*****m
发帖数: 140 | 11 只收购不会这么严重， 他们是组织homeless去这么干， 这就是明知故犯了
stolen
to
【在 w*****i 的大作中提到】
: Contact: (415) 703-5837
: SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today announced the
: arraignment of two individuals who allegedly bought large numbers of stolen
: smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong, raking in nearly $4
: million in less than a year. The arraignment follows a six-month, multi-
: state investigation into the trafficking of stolen smart phones by the
: California Attorney General’s eCrime Unit.
: “This international theft ring used fraud and deceit to steal smartphones
: and exploit the homeless,” said Attorney General Harris. “I applaud the
: hard work of our Special Agents whose tenacious investigation put an end to
|
s*****h
发帖数: 6852 | |
s*****q
发帖数: 364 | 13 what's their ID here? middlemen 指的是这边的神医护士吧，一年不到赚四百万？
神医太牛了。这边有他的采访。
http://www.kcra.com/news/Officials-Calif-pair-made-4M-from-stol |
w*******n
发帖数: 3579 | 14 "It is alleged that the
straw purchasers never intended to follow through with paying for the phones
’ contracts which, under California law, constitutes committing theft by
false pretenses and designates the phones as stolen property."
不是偷的,就是正常买来的合约机,只是后续就不管了,termination貌似都没付的意思
加州法律规定的,合约机不履行合约,就构成偷窃 |
b******r
发帖数: 1106 | 15 靠， 到我们德州来就行了
phones
【在 w*******n 的大作中提到】
: "It is alleged that the
: straw purchasers never intended to follow through with paying for the phones
: ’ contracts which, under California law, constitutes committing theft by
: false pretenses and designates the phones as stolen property."
: 不是偷的,就是正常买来的合约机,只是后续就不管了,termination貌似都没付的意思
: 加州法律规定的,合约机不履行合约,就构成偷窃
|
g*****m
发帖数: 140 | 16 英文阅读水平堪忧啊， 检察官指控他们组织homeless故意去subscribe smartphone 的
， 注意了这个“组织” 两字
phones
【在 w*******n 的大作中提到】
: "It is alleged that the
: straw purchasers never intended to follow through with paying for the phones
: ’ contracts which, under California law, constitutes committing theft by
: false pretenses and designates the phones as stolen property."
: 不是偷的,就是正常买来的合约机,只是后续就不管了,termination貌似都没付的意思
: 加州法律规定的,合约机不履行合约,就构成偷窃
|
h********0
发帖数: 444 | 17 这边好多wholesale网站上卖的二手iphone是不是都这样来的？本来还想帮朋友买了寄
回香港呢。 |
d*******x
发帖数: 843 | 18 拜托你先把sale和profit的概念搞清楚再来回复
【在 s*****q 的大作中提到】
: what's their ID here? middlemen 指的是这边的神医护士吧，一年不到赚四百万？
: 神医太牛了。这边有他的采访。
: http://www.kcra.com/news/Officials-Calif-pair-made-4M-from-stol
|
c******a
发帖数: 11393 | 19 Agents say the couple produced $60,600 in cash to buy 163 of the phones.
$60,600/163=$371
一台有$200+利润 |
s*****q
发帖数: 364 | 20 Nm, not said by me, did you see the title of the article? Media said it!
【在 d*******x 的大作中提到】
: 拜托你先把sale和profit的概念搞清楚再来回复
|
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M*******e
发帖数: 3792 | 21 看以后谁敢买bad esn／合约的机子
stolen
【在 w*****i 的大作中提到】
: Contact: (415) 703-5837
: SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today announced the
: arraignment of two individuals who allegedly bought large numbers of stolen
: smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong, raking in nearly $4
: million in less than a year. The arraignment follows a six-month, multi-
: state investigation into the trafficking of stolen smart phones by the
: California Attorney General’s eCrime Unit.
: “This international theft ring used fraud and deceit to steal smartphones
: and exploit the homeless,” said Attorney General Harris. “I applaud the
: hard work of our Special Agents whose tenacious investigation put an end to
|
d*******x
发帖数: 843 | 22 During an eight-month period, the defendants’ business self-reported gross
sales of $3,948,485.
看清楚了，它说的是Sale
Sale-Cost of Good= profit
【在 s*****q 的大作中提到】
: Nm, not said by me, did you see the title of the article? Media said it!
|
B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 23 竟然说stolen，明明是办plan,媒体用心险恶
stolen
to
【在 w*****i 的大作中提到】
: Contact: (415) 703-5837
: SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today announced the
: arraignment of two individuals who allegedly bought large numbers of stolen
: smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong, raking in nearly $4
: million in less than a year. The arraignment follows a six-month, multi-
: state investigation into the trafficking of stolen smart phones by the
: California Attorney General’s eCrime Unit.
: “This international theft ring used fraud and deceit to steal smartphones
: and exploit the homeless,” said Attorney General Harris. “I applaud the
: hard work of our Special Agents whose tenacious investigation put an end to
|
B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 24 渠道货这个词每次看到都觉得搞笑
【在 M*******1 的大作中提到】
: 原来这就是所谓渠道货
|
B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 25 Wen 22岁的时候Tan才10岁，禽兽啊
stolen
to
【在 w*****i 的大作中提到】
: Contact: (415) 703-5837
: SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today announced the
: arraignment of two individuals who allegedly bought large numbers of stolen
: smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong, raking in nearly $4
: million in less than a year. The arraignment follows a six-month, multi-
: state investigation into the trafficking of stolen smart phones by the
: California Attorney General’s eCrime Unit.
: “This international theft ring used fraud and deceit to steal smartphones
: and exploit the homeless,” said Attorney General Harris. “I applaud the
: hard work of our Special Agents whose tenacious investigation put an end to
|
a***y
发帖数: 400 | 26 Not sure if they had been connected with little nurses here. If so, many
would lose their F1/F2/H1/H4/J1/H2 status and/or others may facing charges. |
a***y
发帖数: 400 | 27 =Gross Profit.
gross
【在 d*******x 的大作中提到】
: During an eight-month period, the defendants’ business self-reported gross
: sales of $3,948,485.
: 看清楚了，它说的是Sale
: Sale-Cost of Good= profit
|
a***y
发帖数: 400 | 28 Wen is a Citizen of the US probably and that was why Tan merried him.
【在 B*********s 的大作中提到】
: Wen 22岁的时候Tan才10岁，禽兽啊
:
: stolen
: to
|
I***8
发帖数: 1949 | 29 这个当然不算渠道货，至少不能算正规渠道货。
【在 B*********s 的大作中提到】
: 渠道货这个词每次看到都觉得搞笑
|
s*****q
发帖数: 364 | 30 http://m.kcra.com/news/Officials-Calif-pair-made-4M-from-stolen
gross
【在 d*******x 的大作中提到】
: During an eight-month period, the defendants’ business self-reported gross
: sales of $3,948,485.
: 看清楚了，它说的是Sale
: Sale-Cost of Good= profit
|
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r******1
发帖数: 420 | 31 这些媒体显然在夸大其词， 把脏水泼到所有的reseller身上， 其实别人违约和他们有
什么关系。 |
h**G
发帖数: 9825 | 32 教唆?
【在 r******1 的大作中提到】
: 这些媒体显然在夸大其词， 把脏水泼到所有的reseller身上， 其实别人违约和他们有
: 什么关系。
|
o******w
发帖数: 3262 | 33 大家悠着点，很多EBIZ都游弋在法律的边缘，做大了都会被抓的。 |
p******d
发帖数: 374 | 34 不知道有没有教唆罪。如果神医夫妻不承认具体指导homeless如何去买东西，只承认在
craigslist上买东西然后运回香港，很难判教唆吧？
【在 h**G 的大作中提到】
: 教唆?
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i******4
发帖数: 20643 | |
t****4
发帖数: 7500 | |
b******e
发帖数: 5547 | 37 果果的命名让记者都很无奈啊
iPhone4s and iPhone5s
【在 t**s 的大作中提到】
:
: stolen
: to
: bail
: as
: under
: the
: phones
: California.
: to
|
r***o
发帖数: 3058 | |
G***G
发帖数: 16778 | 39 即使把有contract的手机卖给别人了，这个主人难道不付contract bill吗？
No one puts a gun on your head to let you sell your phone.
【在 b******e 的大作中提到】
: 果果的命名让记者都很无奈啊
: iPhone4s and iPhone5s
|
G***G
发帖数: 16778 | 40 buying cell phone is illegal?
【在 r***o 的大作中提到】
: 被钓鱼了？ FBI 用截获的手机再卖给神医？
|
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w******d
发帖数: 5839 | |
j*****n
发帖数: 480 | 42 收购被盗手机吧
stolen
to
【在 w*****i 的大作中提到】
: Contact: (415) 703-5837
: SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today announced the
: arraignment of two individuals who allegedly bought large numbers of stolen
: smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong, raking in nearly $4
: million in less than a year. The arraignment follows a six-month, multi-
: state investigation into the trafficking of stolen smart phones by the
: California Attorney General’s eCrime Unit.
: “This international theft ring used fraud and deceit to steal smartphones
: and exploit the homeless,” said Attorney General Harris. “I applaud the
: hard work of our Special Agents whose tenacious investigation put an end to
|
f****g
发帖数: 2073 | 43 that's right.
看有没有记录了。paypal，支票什么的都可以查到
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: Not sure if they had been connected with little nurses here. If so, many
: would lose their F1/F2/H1/H4/J1/H2 status and/or others may facing charges.
|
g**********n
发帖数: 1442 | 44 开车撞死人也就2M bail,这个要1M?
明摆着欺负人呀。 |
f****g
发帖数: 23666 | 45 倒腾ip的小护士们，听到没，赶紧买机票回国啊
【在 f****g 的大作中提到】
: that's right.
: 看有没有记录了。paypal，支票什么的都可以查到
|
n********s
发帖数: 1367 | 46 一个没搞得飘过
【在 f****g 的大作中提到】
: 倒腾ip的小护士们，听到没，赶紧买机票回国啊
|
a******e
发帖数: 36306 | 47 老杨52的时候，翁帆还不知道在哪儿。。。。
【在 B*********s 的大作中提到】
: Wen 22岁的时候Tan才10岁，禽兽啊
:
: stolen
: to
|
w*******n
发帖数: 3579 | 48 手机是法律定义成了"偷窃的"才是关键
假如没有这条法律,就不会定那么重的罪了
你就是组织一堆不管什么人去买也没那么大的事
【在 g*****m 的大作中提到】
: 英文阅读水平堪忧啊， 检察官指控他们组织homeless故意去subscribe smartphone 的
: ， 注意了这个“组织” 两字
:
: phones
|
m*****s
发帖数: 1402 | 49 Straw purchases are legal except in cases where the ultimate receiver of
goods or services uses those goods or services in the commission of a crime
with the prior knowledge of the straw purchaser. |
o**********n
发帖数: 367 | 50 The charges can be found here
oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachments/press_releases/complaint_0.pdf
Please read it and share your view.
But I think it is a bad idea for Mr. Wen to take TV interviews, which can
certainly bias future jury.
Americans never hesitate to send people from other country to jail for small
things.
If you were a white man, they would not mess up with you. |
|
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g*r
发帖数: 2116 | 51 This guy is a winner. 39 V.S. 27
stolen
to
【在 w*****i 的大作中提到】
: Contact: (415) 703-5837
: SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today announced the
: arraignment of two individuals who allegedly bought large numbers of stolen
: smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong, raking in nearly $4
: million in less than a year. The arraignment follows a six-month, multi-
: state investigation into the trafficking of stolen smart phones by the
: California Attorney General’s eCrime Unit.
: “This international theft ring used fraud and deceit to steal smartphones
: and exploit the homeless,” said Attorney General Harris. “I applaud the
: hard work of our Special Agents whose tenacious investigation put an end to
|
c********l
发帖数: 8138 | 52 有锁和有合约是两个正交的事情
有锁的手机可以无合约
有合约的手机也可以有锁
【在 m********s 的大作中提到】
: 如果说收购那种合约机，就是没有full payment 之前拿走的手机算违法，那么收购无
: 锁N4或者无锁iphone5呢？
|
c********l
发帖数: 8138 | 53 扫了一眼楼上的这些回复，没几个人对事情有比较准确的认识的
【在 g*****m 的大作中提到】
: 英文阅读水平堪忧啊， 检察官指控他们组织homeless故意去subscribe smartphone 的
: ， 注意了这个“组织” 两字
:
: phones
|
c********l
发帖数: 8138 | 54 签了合约老实交ETF，与签了合约赖账，是两码事
【在 h********0 的大作中提到】
: 这边好多wholesale网站上卖的二手iphone是不是都这样来的？本来还想帮朋友买了寄
: 回香港呢。
|
A**o
发帖数: 422 | 55 才知道有这么回事情啊
stolen
to
【在 w*****i 的大作中提到】
: Contact: (415) 703-5837
: SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today announced the
: arraignment of two individuals who allegedly bought large numbers of stolen
: smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong, raking in nearly $4
: million in less than a year. The arraignment follows a six-month, multi-
: state investigation into the trafficking of stolen smart phones by the
: California Attorney General’s eCrime Unit.
: “This international theft ring used fraud and deceit to steal smartphones
: and exploit the homeless,” said Attorney General Harris. “I applaud the
: hard work of our Special Agents whose tenacious investigation put an end to
|
c**0
发帖数: 9331 | 56 (星島日報報道)一對華裔夫婦，在美國加州招攬庇護中心的流浪漢，安排他們向電訊
商簽署服務合約出「O機價」智能手機，走數不供款，再收集這些來自全美各地、數以
百計手機賊贓，以每部二千港元在港銷售圖利，八個月以來賺了三千一百多萬港元，終
被美國警方臥底「賣家」拘控。
被起訴的華裔夫婦分別是三十九歲溫壽林（譯音Shou Lin Wen），及其二十七歲妻
子譚玉婷（譯音Yuting Tan）。兩人被控洗黑錢、接贓、盜竊和串謀等八項重罪，現還
押監房看管，保釋金定為每人一百萬美元（折合約七百八十萬港元）。
警方經過為期六個月的跨州調查後，派數名臥底探員跟兩人接洽，至本月六日將兩
人拘捕扣查。消
息指，臥底探員相約涉案夫婦在一個停車場交易，訛稱會將四百零八部智能手機賣給兩
人，涉案夫婦不虞有詐，提出以六萬零六百美元（折合約四十六萬九千七百多港元），
收購其中一百六十三部手機，結果束手就擒。
加州檢察長指兩人在過去八個月內，靠在香港轉售智能手機賊贓，大賺近四百萬美
元（折合約三千一百萬港元）。他們犯案手法，是串同其他人士，招聘全美各地庇護中
心的流浪漢，這些獲庇護中心收容暫住的流浪漢，有來自北卡羅來納州。
涉案夫婦安排流浪漢，與當地電訊商簽署為期多年的服務合約，讓他們以綁約式折
扣價，甚至「O機價」購買多部智能手機，然後走數不供款，成事後他們只獲涉案夫婦
給予少許報酬。
流浪漢向電訊商騙得手機後，再透過中間人把手機運給居於加州薩克拉門托的涉案
夫婦，偷運到本港銷售，涉事的中間人暫時未遭當局檢控。
涉案夫妻檔查周二在薩克拉門托最高法院提堂，被控以上述八項重罪。兩人都未有
提出抗辯，律師坎皮（Patricia Campi）說，她才剛剛接下此案，無法評論。破獲這宗
手機賊贓轉售到香港案件，是加州總檢察長成立兩年的「網絡犯罪小組」（eCrime
Unit） |
g*********5
发帖数: 2533 | |
g*********5
发帖数: 2533 | |
u***n
发帖数: 10554 | 59 啥是bad esn?
【在 M*******e 的大作中提到】
: 看以后谁敢买bad esn／合约的机子
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: stolen
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c*******e
发帖数: 8624 | 60 神医蛮厚道,说是在CL上收的,没提买买提二手版.不过估计F*B*I也早就进驻了.
下回收货出货搞不好是跟F*B*I在交易.
stolen
to
【在 w*****i 的大作中提到】
: Contact: (415) 703-5837
: SACRAMENTO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today announced the
: arraignment of two individuals who allegedly bought large numbers of stolen
: smartphones in California for resale in Hong Kong, raking in nearly $4
: million in less than a year. The arraignment follows a six-month, multi-
: state investigation into the trafficking of stolen smart phones by the
: California Attorney General’s eCrime Unit.
: “This international theft ring used fraud and deceit to steal smartphones
: and exploit the homeless,” said Attorney General Harris. “I applaud the
: hard work of our Special Agents whose tenacious investigation put an end to
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