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JobHunting版 - 老美的立场 “The H-1B visa program is a scam”
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ICC太恶心了真的亲身经历了一次烙印的大规模职场进攻
没人管烙印的h1申请吗?我也快被雷了,发帖留念。 (转载)
弱问:H1b 用完了,那今年公司怎么招人?NYTimes 终于发文抨击H-1B的不公平,基于印度的consulting公司占据了大量H-1B名额。
求推荐ICCH1B 是个大公司 压榨/欺负/控制 外来劳动力的 工具
这个H1b名额的事情要搞清楚川普h1b改革新闻 目前看有利于码农
ICC不是盖的 (转载)今年H1b的申请人数比去年减少了4万,199000份申请
ICC给这么多啊H1B收費將提高至4500元
HCL是ICC吗?Top 10 H1-B visa users in the US (ZZ)
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l******o
发帖数: 30
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老美关心的还真不是H1b该给谁,而是该不该给H1b。
ICC通过各种方式获取了美国公司outsrouce出来的工作机会,再找来一大帮什么也不会
的老印,然后才有了H1B抽签的惨况。咱们关心的是抽签过程的合理性,老美关心的是
outsourcing的合理性。如果想要增加咱们自己人的抽签几率,又不损伤H1b受益人这个
整体,思考斗争策略的时候要把两件事情都考虑进来。任重道远。。。
http://betanews.com/2015/06/16/the-h-1b-visa-program-is-a-scam/
The H-1B visa program is a scam
几段摘录:
“His argument, like that of Google and many other companies often mentioned
as H-1B supporters, presupposes that there is a domestic IT labor shortage,
but there isn’t. The United States right now has plenty of qualified
workers to fill every available position. If there are indeed exceptional
jobs that can’t be filled by ANY domestic applicant, there’s still the EB-
2 visa program, which somehow doesn’t max-out every year like H-1B. How can
that be if there’s a talent shortage? In truth, H-1B has always been
unnecessary.”
"My first exposure to H1B was when I was consulting to multiple VC’s back
in the dot-com era. Several VC’s I did work for, the portfolio managers
would instruct/demand their portfolio companies hire H1B’s instead of
Americans for 'common' jobs such as programmers, DBA’s (database
administrators), network admins and even IT help desk people.
The reason of course was $$$. The H1B’s cost approx. 1/3rd or 1/4th the
cost of the comparable American in same job.
I remember this one VC board meeting where the CEO of a portfolio company
said the H1B’s in his company were complaining about their sub-standard pay
, and one of the VC partners said, "Fuck them. Tell them if they don’t like
it, we’ll toss their ass out, get another H1B to replace you and you’ll
be on your way back to India"."
“I got to know some of the H1B’s that were in the US working for us. I
asked them, "How can you afford to live here on $15/hour?" The answer was
they were living in group homes (e.g. -- 8 guys would rent a townhouse and
pool their money for food, etc.), plus had "no life" outside of work.
To which I’d ask, "why are you doing this?" The answer was "it’s better
than what we can get at home (India)" and they would manage to save some
money. But more importantly, they were getting valuable experience for when
they would return to India, they were highly sought after due to their
experience in the US.”
E*******F
发帖数: 2165
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硅谷大公司可以贴出H1B的平均年薪来打脸啊
其实美国政府也知道具体怎么回事
H1B被一些staffing company滥用了
但总的来说还是美国必需的
o**********e
发帖数: 18403
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老中要力求ON THE TABLE。
把LOBBY的事情都交给烙印日本人,
老中全部上MENU。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/SanFrancisco/34238061.html
老中怎样针对反华言论,自辨。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/JobHunting/32975675.html
多针对滥用H1B, L1的INFOSYS,COGNIZANT,
HCL, WIPRO, TATA CS。 不把烙印搞臭,任何
H1B, L1改革都会被他们继续转空子。
反之,只要把烙印和这些公司搞臭,任何H1B,L1
改革都会帮助老中以一敌十被烙印围攻的境地。
p*****r
发帖数: 1883
4
关键是给infosys那样的公司一搞,平均工资还真不能打脸,7万一年,你看:
http://stoph1bvisafraud.org/2015/05/30/2015-h1b-visa-rank-and-t
H1b被说成低工资是因为ICC真的就把工资弄低了,解决办法是把ICC弄走,这样平均工
资就高了

【在 E*******F 的大作中提到】
: 硅谷大公司可以贴出H1B的平均年薪来打脸啊
: 其实美国政府也知道具体怎么回事
: H1B被一些staffing company滥用了
: 但总的来说还是美国必需的

d********t
发帖数: 9628
5
H1B本来就是用来降工资的,没有H1B全雇美国人工资肯定更高。

【在 p*****r 的大作中提到】
: 关键是给infosys那样的公司一搞,平均工资还真不能打脸,7万一年,你看:
: http://stoph1bvisafraud.org/2015/05/30/2015-h1b-visa-rank-and-t
: H1b被说成低工资是因为ICC真的就把工资弄低了,解决办法是把ICC弄走,这样平均工
: 资就高了

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Top 10 H1-B visa users in the US (ZZ)这个H1b名额的事情要搞清楚
今年不会H1b抽签ICC不是盖的 (转载)
也谈印度人,和在美华人的区别 (转载)ICC给这么多啊
也谈印度人,和在美华人的区别 (转载)HCL是ICC吗?
ICC太恶心了真的亲身经历了一次烙印的大规模职场进攻
没人管烙印的h1申请吗?我也快被雷了,发帖留念。 (转载)
弱问:H1b 用完了,那今年公司怎么招人?NYTimes 终于发文抨击H-1B的不公平,基于印度的consulting公司占据了大量H-1B名额。
求推荐ICCH1B 是个大公司 压榨/欺负/控制 外来劳动力的 工具
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