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T*******e
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【 以下文字转载自 PDA 讨论区 】
发信人: ThetaWave (Theta), 信区: PDA
标 题: The Land That Failed to Fail - The New York Times
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Nov 18 23:13:40 2018, 美东)
A "good" piece from NYT...
.......
China now leads the world in the number of homeowners, internet users,
college graduates and, by some counts, billionaires. Extreme poverty has
fallen to less than 1 percent. An isolated, impoverished backwater has
evolved into the most significant rival to the United States since the fall
of the Soviet Union.
An epochal contest is underway. With President Xi Jinping pushing a more
assertive agenda overseas and tightening controls at home, the Trump
administration has launched a trade war and is gearing up for what could be
a new Cold War. Meanwhile, in Beijing the question these days is less how to
catch up with the West than how to pull ahead — and how to do so in a new
era of U.S. hostility.
The pattern is familiar to historians, a rising power challenging an
established one, with a familiar complication: For decades, the United
States encouraged and aided China’s rise, working with its leaders and its
people to build the most important economic partnership in the world, one
that has lifted both nations.
During this time, eight U.S. presidents assumed, or hoped, that China would
eventually bend to what were considered the established rules of
modernization: Prosperity would fuel popular demands for political freedom
and bring China into the fold of democratic nations. Or the Chinese economy
would falter under the weight of authoritarian rule and bureaucratic rot.
But neither happened. Instead, China’s communist leaders have defied
expectations again and again. They embraced capitalism even as they
continued to call themselves Marxists. They used repression to maintain
power but without stifling entrepreneurship or innovation. Surrounded by
foes and rivals, they avoided war, with one brief exception, even as they
fanned nationalist sentiment at home. And they presided over 40 years of
uninterrupted growth, often with unorthodox policies the textbooks said
would fail.
In late September, the People’s Republic of China marked a milestone,
surpassing the Soviet Union in longevity. Days later, it celebrated a record
69 years of communist rule. And China may be just hitting its stride — a
new superpower with an economy on track to become not just the world’s
largest but, quite soon, the largest by a wide margin. The world thought it
could change China, and in many ways it has. But China’s success has been
so spectacular that it has just as often changed the world — and the U.S.
understanding of how the world works.
There is no simple explanation for how China’s leaders pulled this off.
There was foresight and luck, skill and violent resolve, but perhaps most
important was the fear — a sense of crisis among Mao’s successors that
they never shook and that intensified after the Tiananmen Square massacre
and the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Even as they put the disasters of Mao’s rule behind them, China’s
communists studied and obsessed over the fate of their old ideological
allies in Moscow, determined to learn from their mistakes. They drew two
lessons: The party needed to embrace “reform” to survive — but “reform”
must never include democratization.
China has veered between these competing impulses ever since, between
opening up and clamping down, between experimenting with change and
resisting it, always pulling back before going too far in either direction
for fear of running aground.
.....
T*******e
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今天占了www.nytimes.com头条。
具体文章传送门,
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/china-rules.html

fall

【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 PDA 讨论区 】
: 发信人: ThetaWave (Theta), 信区: PDA
: 标 题: The Land That Failed to Fail - The New York Times
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Nov 18 23:13:40 2018, 美东)
: A "good" piece from NYT...
: .......
: China now leads the world in the number of homeowners, internet users,
: college graduates and, by some counts, billionaires. Extreme poverty has
: fallen to less than 1 percent. An isolated, impoverished backwater has
: evolved into the most significant rival to the United States since the fall

h***e
发帖数: 2823
3
自己家一屁股烂账,就别操别人的心了。
扭腰太母这时候扯这个不着调的蛋,我第一反应是不是接到啥fl内幕消息了?转移视线
?不过找的这素材太烂,有几个人会关注这个?
M**********i
发帖数: 427
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犹媒的话,一句都不要去信它
a****1
发帖数: 634
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“They embraced capitalism even as they
continued to call themselves Marxists. They used repression to maintain
power but without stifling entrepreneurship or innovation”
纽约时报是真的看不懂中国还是咋的?中国哪里还有马克思主义?哪里还有计划经济?
私有财产已经入宪,资本家已经入党,唯一还坚持的,就是天安门挂的毛泽东像。
中国的经济成就,就是在于远离马克思主义/共产主义/社会主义(其实我分不清这三者
的差别),释放国有财产,转为私有财产,从而解放生产力、促进消费。即便是粪坑里
的硬石头毛毛左,也不得不承认,没有邓小平的走资修正路线,就没有今天的中国 ---
虽然损伤了不少人的既得利益。
至于说中国的 "Innovation",就算用最客气的话说,我也只能说:至今尚未看见。至
于 entrepreneurship,中国的 entrepreneurship 也还是远不及美国。不久前看过一
个纪录片,讲述铺设跨大西洋海底电缆的历史。再看看美国实业家铺铁路、做汽车等等
的历史,你也不得不承认,这种 entrepreneurship 至今在中国没看见。
我不反对中国的经济增长,或者成为世界第一大经济体,但讲到 "innovation and
entrepreneurship“,我觉得还是让美国人当领头羊比较靠谱。有一天地球住不下去的
时候,地球人要靠美国实业家如 Ellon Musk, Jeff Bezos 带领我们走向太空,靠马云
是不行的!马云也就是买几个法国酒庄、给自己盖个大房子这种眼界。
T*******e
发帖数: 4110
6
American Dream is alive in China.
相当于前面文章的part 2, 现在也在头版头条,自己看吧。

【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: 今天占了www.nytimes.com头条。
: 具体文章传送门,
: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/china-rules.html
:
: fall

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