l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 1 陈之后从同事借了密码（这个密码本来在办公室里也是“公开”的，而且陈做为政府
雇员是有访问权限的），下载了她觉得对自己工作有用的东西。中国部长那边她把链接
发过去了，明确说明这个仅供美国政府雇员使用，访问权限得找管理员要。
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尼玛这个不是明着在说,你要资料,还得hack嘛? 已经说了仅供美国雇员用,你还发给中
国政府人员干什么? |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 3 陈之后从同事借了密码（这个密码本来在办公室里也是“公开”的，而且陈做为政府
雇员是有访问权限的），下载了她觉得对自己工作有用的东西。中国部长那边她把链接
发过去了，明确说明这个仅供美国政府雇员使用，访问权限得找管理员要。
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尼玛这个不是明着在说,你要资料,还得hack嘛? 已经说了仅供美国雇员用,你还发给中
国政府人员干什么? |
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d*******p
发帖数: 2525 | 5 你连事情都没搞清楚，她同事可没报告,因为事情在她部门是完全正常的，打小报告的
是army corp of engineers的那个lee女士..... |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 6 可能同事给了后感觉不好了, 然后报告了吧.否则当时就应该说不给. |
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d*******p
发帖数: 2525 | 7 不知道怎么会有人现在还觉得这当事人不对，她的案子已经了结了，她完全无错。
这个案子本身就是侯赛因的左逼政府故意迫害华人，这还有什么可说的 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 8 已经讲过了啊, 做了坏事和做了坏事被拿到证据去告, 和去告了然后被定罪都不是一回
事.
另外你不觉得奇怪嘛: 其他国家的人问你一个东东, 你回答说这个东东在某个数据库里
面, 但这个数据库是别的国家的人不可以看的.
你难道不该说: 这个东东是我们属于国家机密文件,所以我不能说什么. |
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c*********l
发帖数: 2893 | 9 又出现一位，这不是当事人，他怎么知道的？
这事怎么看着乱七八糟的 |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 10 You see, you never read the entire story, otherwise, you would not have
this stupid question. Of course, this is to assume the WF's brain is
still normal.
Ms. Chen contacted Ms. Lee, who is in charge of the database, before
sending the webpages to her classmate. And it was Ms. Lee's advice to send
the info and her contact if Ms. Chen's classmate had addition questions.
All Ms. Chen did was following Mr. Lee's advice.
Ms. Lee had reported Ms. Chen as a possible spy before Ms. Chen just
followed h... 阅读全帖 |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 11 as I said, self-haters blame anything Obama's administration did except
for their 故意迫害华人. |
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c*********l
发帖数: 2893 | 12 椿芽，这就跟买禁止出口的仪器似的。你要出口，人家告诉你不能出口，但是你要愿意
有变通之法。。。。。
巴拉巴拉。。你就违反了出口法规 |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 13 "你要愿意有变通之法"
where is this from? your magic again? I guess FBI has one more reason
to recruit you.
Ms. Chen was not in charge of the database. All she can do was to follow
Ms. Lee's advice getting back to her classmate, and she just did it that
way. |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 14 呵呵, 你写的就是说明Lee已经怀疑了,但她不动声色.
目前看不到Chen是guilty, 但这个事情绝对不算空穴来风吧, 还是有原因的.
另外, 我不是WF的话, 你就自杀ID? |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 16
Ms. Lee can 怀疑 and I even don't want to blame her for reporting this
case as we don't know her real motivation. But the government abused
its power in this case by prosecuting Ms. Chen and causing her to lose
her job, for what, a few emails following Mr. Lee's advice?
不算空穴来风 for questing it and even starting an through invesitgation.
This should have been easily cleared. It is 空穴来风 when the government
decided to prosecute Ms. Chen with no evidence. It was an abuse of
power and a waste of tax pa... 阅读全帖 |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 17 "椿芽，这就跟买禁止出口的仪器似的"
"似的" certainly meant you think they are similar cases. |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 18 Ms. Lee can 怀疑 and I even don't want to blame her for reporting this
case as we don't know her real motivation. But the government abused
its power in this case by prosecuting Ms. Chen and causing her to lose
her job, for what, a few emails following Mr. Lee's advice?
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Lee又没做错什么事情,你想blame也没有机会啊.
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不算空穴来风 for questing it and even starting an through invesitgation.
This should have been easily cleared. It is 空穴来风 when the government
decided to prosecute Ms. Chen with no evidence... 阅读全帖 |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 19
Ms. Lee can 怀疑 and I even don't want to blame her for reporting this
case as we don't know her real motivation. But the government abused
its power in this case by prosecuting Ms. Chen and causing her to lose
her job, for what, a few emails following Mr. Lee's advice?
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Lee又没做错什么事情,你想blame也没有机会啊.
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不算空穴来风 for questing it and even starting an through invesitgation.
This should have been easily cleared. It is 空穴来风 when the government
decided to prosecute Ms. Chen with no evidenc... 阅读全帖 |
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c*********l
发帖数: 2893 | 20 对呀，就是类似啊。都是人家告诉你那事是违法的，你非要做可以这样那样（人家没说
按照这样做就合法）。
其实我对这样做也有看法，但是按照现在的程序是你有问题，对方没问题。他那么说就
是试探你是否非要做（违法的事），还有先稳住你，他好逮时间去报告。 |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 21
"人家告诉你那事是违法的"
where is this from again? another magic? |
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c*********l
发帖数: 2893 | 22 不是说那个数据库只准许美国政府雇员进入嘛，陈的中国同学肯定不是美国政府雇员。
陈其实看到这点就应该打住了，不要再试图给外国人看了。 |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 23 She said what she understood. The official and authorative explanation on
who can access to the database needs to come from Ms. Lee, who is in charge
of the database. Emailing a website and the contact of the person in charge,
especially done after seeking advice first, is certainly legal, no matter
how you look at it. |
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 24 Ms. Lee is Ms. Chen's boss. If this is not a spy case, then it is a case of
bad management. I don't see Ms. Lee lose her job over this. She just got
reassigned to another government paid job.
Even this, the self-haters won't blame her. Must be her milky skin and blond
hair doing the magic. |
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d*******p
发帖数: 2525 | 25 lee is not the boss of chen, she's from another department(army corp of
engineers...), because lee is in charge of the database, that's why chen
talked to lee and asked her for advice. |
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c********g
发帖数: 15629 | 26 这个Lee 无事生非，浪费了美国纳税人这么多钱，应该解雇。 |
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c****p
发帖数: 6474 | 27 一点也不奇怪。
A发过邮件说怎么登录一个系统。我当时没注意，回头我要用的时候想起来A发过。
既然A发过这东西，那我假设A在我们组内多少是了解这个登录的。
何况A就在我隔壁。
这种情况我为毛要舍近求远问可能半天不会回我的IT?
至少我在问IT之前问一句A这个系统怎么登录难道不是很正常的事情么？
所以真就如你所说，同事不应该掌握密码这些东西，那也不是陈的问题。 |
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c****p
发帖数: 6474 | 28 不是送答案。
报道里面说过了，中国那边问她美国大坝的预算怎么搞的，她自己也不知道，觉得很没
面子。
所以我觉得她也是出于自己的职业好奇想看一看。
找资料的时候发现资料是受限的，但是公众有感兴趣的人可以请求访问，
所以她把链接顺手发人家了，告诉人家想看东西得找管理员申请权限。 |
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c********g
发帖数: 15629 | 29 “她把链接顺手发人家了，告诉人家想看东西得找管理员申请权限”，
这件事情应该是没法定罪的。 |
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c****p
发帖数: 6474 | 30 But in her search for an answer to Mr. Jiao’s question, Mrs. Chen had gone
through the National Inventory of Dams database. That database, which is
maintained by the Army Corps of Engineers, is available to government
workers and #members of the public who request login credentials#. A small
subset of the data on the site — six of 70 data fields — is available only
to government workers. |
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 31 The sympathy of the righteous ones appeared to reserved for those with milky
skin and blond hair. |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 32 还是中国的人不能进去看啊.
这个奇怪的就是中国的人问她, 她还真的去看了. 那美国方面的人知道肯定会有怀疑啊.
gone
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 33 得找管理员申请权限???
这个是搞笑是吧, 中国政府的人也会去找美国政府的管理员申请权限? |
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 34 You can read the NYT yourself instead of relying on other people's
translation. Even if you find some attack point based on the translation, it
only shows your desperation.
Unless you can't read English. But are you Chinese American? |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 35 嘿嘿, 我说找ID证明是对你客气, 好像你把我的客气当福气了.
应该是谁主张,谁举证. 你这么说了, 我当然要求你来证明.
这样好了, 我给你从现在到明天这段时间来证明我是WF.
到了时间, 如果你不能证明的话. 说声自己搞错了, apologize就算了.
否则的话, 我就认为你这个讲法是恶意攻击版务人员, 会按照版规来处理.
我这个算对你仁至义尽了吧. |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 37 我是根据那个人的回帖回复的. 有什么问题嘛?
而且人家也贴了, 即使public也是必须有credential的批准的.你觉得中国政府的人申
请会有人批准?
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 38 Nobody care if you are a WF or not.
I believe your attack on these two Chinese American Scientists is
intentional and malicious. |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 39 嗯, 基本如此. sofc有一次回复我问kafen的问题, 估计当时忘了换ID了. |
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 40 If you have issues with Chinese government, bring it to the Chinese
government.
"那个人" has issues with you, you can bring it up to the mitbbs owner and
see how the owner decide. |
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 41 I am answering your post not directed to me, so I am somebody's Maja?
Great way to show your IQ after showing your heart. |
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w*********o
发帖数: 3030 | 43 No. I am just having too much fun playing the righteous ones.
Thanks for reminding me and I will save my energy for the long run. |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 44
If you 举证 for every post that you attacked anyone, I would provide
举证 of the same level.
I cited where my claim was from. Have you provided any evidence of
any posts where you attacked someone? Or have you asked anyone on
this board to provide the same level of reference or evidence of
their posts where they attacked someone?
This is America, not China. Everyone should follow the same rule.
This is my 仁至义尽 as I don't even think WF is an attack, just as
someone here kept saying that saying Obama... 阅读全帖 |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 45 They can 怀疑 and FBI can start the investigation. But this should have
been easily cleared without going through the prosecution, which wasted
tax payer's money and caused damage to innocent people.
啊. |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 46 Please provide the same level of evidence, that SOFC and kafen are
different IDs of the same person, as you asked me to provide that you
are a WF. |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 47 at the same time, if SOFC sees this post and is interested, lczlcz can
designate IDs on the board (maybe the other bms) to verify that SOFC
and kafen are different persons. We should be able to figure out a
way to verify our evidences.
After that, it would be up to you to provide evidence that you are
NOT a WF. And we will designate IDs on the board to verify your evidences.
This should be fair for everyone.
Please provide the same level of evidence, that SOFC and kafen are
different IDs of the... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 48 呵呵, 你不承认没用. my offer still holds. |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 49 nobody give a shit about your "offer"
do whatever you want and take the consequence. |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 50 You know what, I took your "offer". See below:
I apologize for saying lczlcz is a WF.
Nobody cares who you are married now. I offer this appology not because I
meant it as an offence nor because of your threat abusing your pathetic "
power". It is because you are not a WF in your heart.
Even you dumped your Chinese ex and married your current one for green card.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Immigration/31315638.html
Your heart and spirit seem to be still with him, not your current one. So I
w... 阅读全帖 |
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