b*****o
发帖数: 332 | 1 Why hold and try stay in 3.5 league?
Should move up to 4.0 and play with better players. What's the point keep
playing with 3.0s and win 100%?
WSN don't be too WS la.. LOL |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 2 再举个例子：所有卧薪尝胆的sandbagger都是从C起家的。比如radio
第一年打3.0S, 然后年终评为3.5C. （理论上他甚至可以3.0C)
第二年，他横扫了3.5联赛。 |
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 3 没事，反正他现在也是3.0s，等到4.0的时候估计就又有不同感受了，再换拍子呗
他现在在3.0里是轻松称王称霸的，哈哈 |
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h**********m
发帖数: 87 | 4 i am curious if one can lose his/her ranking if he/she loses enough matches
to players in the same ranks (e.g. 4.0 vs 4.0s), or to lower ranked players
(e.g. 4.0 vs 3.5s). |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 5 强力aglee阿。全队居然没有一名从去年就开始卧薪尝胆的3.0C sandbagger.
几个sandbagger都是3.0S, 还不会演戏，只能杯具了。
而且老三的队伍在national前途暗淡阿。老三这种强3.0都可以#2 singles，
这种板凳深度是远远不够的，会被加勒比solid 3.5海盗们摧残。。。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 6 No. For drop volley, could be like “拧钥匙”, as the follow through should
be minimum.
For a good/deceiptive drop shot from baseline, you need to have the same
follow through just as when you want to slice it to deep. It's tough to
master this shot
even for most of 4.0s. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 7 你们现在还有板凳深度吗？据说national不会DQ. 当然现招的3.0S估计还是会。 |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 9 he probably doesnt and never gets respect from you. burnapparently he is
well respectednfrom those 4.0s he beat.
he is quite tolerated w those questionable balls like if it is out. if he
is not 100% sure, he barely calls it is out |
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 10 那你现在有记录了啊，呵呵
不过跟你打的时候我还不是3.0B
所以你只是打败了另一个3.0S而已，哈哈哈 |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 11 那就是4.0S，S是sandbagging的意思，呵呵 |
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T*********0
发帖数: 4816 | 12 linchuangyix你说别的我no comments。但说这个，我坚决不同意：
Tennisfan 比 ET 高 1.0 以上。要不然很难送蛋。--
绝对没有差那么高。在刚刚开始比赛不久，聊天中互问各自水平。ET是正规League的3.
67，我说我自评4.0 （现在俺是USTA4.0S了）不管比赛结果如何，我俩相差不应该超过
0.5.
另外，我和dropshot也没有比赛，他没有来。谈何dropshot失败？因为输过了RealFan？
同ET的比赛，实际上我打的也不爽。Set 1先半程时，我俩是基本上是谁发球，谁倒是
被破了。这主要是我俩内心的压力都比较大，内心里都在说，我一定要赢。我一般在同
新球友正式交手的比赛中，往往都是slow start。但昨天还好，我上来就2：0，之后2
：2，然后我4：2，接着是4：4平。我上来还是想尝试我主动进攻的打法，结果自己主
动送分的失误挺多，让我不满意。在4：4之后，我就改变了打法。我改成了自己保守的
，不轻易打winner，也不轻易失误送分的WWSS的打法。这种打法，如果看录像，非常的
没有观赏性，但对于一般进攻不是很犀利，主要靠defe... 阅读全帖 |
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 13 totally agree. IMO, his drop shot is not real one as done by older oilers.
However, even so, it's good enough to make ET hard handling, but no real
threaten to RF or TX such experienced solid or strong 4.0 at all.
These are the reasons why DS and ET both lost to two experienced 4.0s.
I strongly feel ET had less river-lake experiences, that's why he claimed "
DS can EASILY beat......" based on his personal game experience w/ DS and
video by RF/TX, etc. Actually, such game results won't surprise m... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********0
发帖数: 4816 | 14 他们队里一水的self rate啊？嗯，是这种情况。多数team members都是刚刚加入USTA
的，就连greyuh也是4.0S。这就难免有的要比4.0高，有的不到4.0.
好像算adult league把。至于是不是用来计算ntrp，俺不是很清楚。
打一打就知道了。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 15 这些4.5中都没有。所以除非有人5.0S, 5.5S修成正果，否则没有。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 16 I'm saying if he is holding his ground at USTA 3.5 Spring League, then he
should be able to hang with 4.0s. Might tough at first, but I think he can
do it, thus a "challenge".
Obviously if the sole purpose to get to the national, then sure 3.0 might be
a better way to go, but I would not refer that as "challenge". |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 17 my take is male 5.0 has no chance. top 5.5 might put up a good fight, 6.0s+
have a chance. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 18 I can win 100% against solid 4.0s that way. Your 2 feet is too low. Make it
6 feet then that could be interesting.
I think your issue is not knowing the real difference between 4.0 and 4.5.
When I was doing well in 4.0 (won a major zone of 7 round and got into the
final of the other major zone, plus winning some smaller events) I thought
I could hang or put up a good fight against 4.5. Results really surprised me
, had to go back to work on basics. You are only looking at the strokes on
paper, ... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 19 focus on hit high and heavy, so I don't get killed too fast and hoping for a
weaker response so I can attack. Problem is 5.0s are more consistent at
maintaining high quality shots while on the move, where I am not as
consistent at it, so once they get a shot that is not that heavy or a bit
short, they make me pay by move me around and totally expose my weakness (
backhand) lol On the same token I can do that to them too, just not as
often as they do to me....
This is just regular point playing... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 20 Difference between 4.0 and 4.5 is 4.5 seems always ready. 4.0s can get to
the ball fine but they are not ready. Why is that? I think answer lies in
early take back |
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g***i
发帖数: 161 | 21 I was a good 3.5 about 2 yrs ago.
After a year, reached 4.0.
For the past year or so, I video taped a lot of my matches, studied my
strength and weakness, made corrections along the way.
Now I can generate a lot more power, keep the ball in bound and hit quite a
few winners. I have very few UEs, my opponents are 4.0s, normally I can win
by 6:0 to 6:3.
my keys:
video tape
semi-western grip
use leg and body rotation, not just arm.
keep head down when hitting ball
I play 1-2 times a week. |
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r*********x
发帖数: 3016 | 22 太笨
appeal up就和self rating一样。本来self rate就是和你实际水平没有直接关系的。
如果你自己usta 5.0S高兴，usta也高兴收钱。
打比赛升级得的rating和self rate/appeal有可比性？ |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 23 don't be too modest, 7 years and 3.0, i don't believe that. There is a group
of Chinese practice at New Territory (Sugar Land area). If you are
interested, I can ask them. They are mainly 4.0s though.
but |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 24 Welcome! Houston has a 鲑鱼,now Austin will have a 墨鱼.I also live north,
so feel free to give me a hauler if you need any help.
As far as tennis goes, north Austin is a good spot. We got plenty high
school courts that are lid. Austin has a local tennis league, called Austin
Tennis League or ATL. However, it will be over this Sat. Fall season starts
in September. I think the team Dropshot is in would love to have a good 4.0
player to join them. They are did well this season, and is likely to get
bu... 阅读全帖 |
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 25 一般第一年参加usta的S如果不DQ的，很少给bump up的，呵呵。
我认得一个人，3.0S，local胜率100%，打了至少20多场 3.0和3.5，sectional好像就
输了一场，大概是因为伤病，应该还赢了1，2场，但是最后没有给bump。
然后此人气愤去appeal up，也没被批准。 |
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 26 well, u know virgin 4.0s /= never barked 沙袋4.0........lol |
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 27 well, u know virgin 4.0s /= never barked 沙袋4.0........lol |
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 28 Wow, excellent!
IMO, much better than several WSN 3.0s on this board.
I just watch FP son' practice, it would be
interesting to watch they both play a game.....but I favor your daughter,
even play with some adult on this board. |
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c***t
发帖数: 1216 | 29 我这礼拜才郁闷了
前两周打一单，踫上一3.02 一3.04，对手把好手放二单了
这周打二单，竟然给我一3.0S，还是打打就give up的那种 |
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 30 比方说4.0S 和 4.0D有啥不同? 是不是还有C? |
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c***t
发帖数: 1216 | 31 不知道是你运气好，还是我运气坏
我打了四场，就一场双打靠谱
单打两个3.5都是3.0x，还一个3.0S |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 33 I don't think 姜山is trying to win points. So it's hard to judge, his
forehand stroke is more of wta style (my guess is he used to hit more
eastern and flat, changed to topspin later), backhand stroke is needs some
work, but his anticipation, movement, and clean contact are probably much
better than the most 5.0s. I would guess at least a 5.0 or higher. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 34 yea, a 18 years old 4 stars should be a solid or high 5.0, but Div III #5
seems more for a mediocre 5.0s... |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 35 I think there are a lot more 5.0s in div 3, but i could be wrong. I played
against a lot ex-div 3 players at 4.5s, I can see them been 5.0 at their
prime, but 5.5? That might be pushing it.
well, my sampling size is small. My personal experience might skew the fact.
(just a side note) |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 36 Leonard, you really disappointed me. When I first read your post back in Dec
., I really enjoyed that piece, and really hoped that you would come to
Texas. After your match vs Alex, I thought ok, maybe your understanding of
USTA rating is not aligned with mine. but this post really tipped me over,
especially the following sentence.
“hoping that I can play with Henry/Gordon as soon as possible, and then
with Alex cause I own him a decent match. ”
You sounded like you still believes you should bel... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 37 apology accepted. I'm sure these kind of things only happens on the board --
what you wrote may not be what you meant.
Anyways, I'm not sure about Chicago, but in Texas there are rarely any
tournaments that has 5.0. Normally 5.0s just plays open. Often people who
plays in 5.0 tournaments are the 4.5s with a big head. If you can win some 4
.5 major zone, or get to semis of open at some big tournaments, you should
get bump to 5.0 quickly. Good luck!
Lastly, I agree with ATM, rating is just a numb... 阅读全帖 |
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L*********n
发帖数: 185 | 38
challengers
1. "Challenger seeds are generally ATP 100~292", not 150~292, that's my
statement.
2. "Future main draw players are like 6.0s", not 6.5s, you can check my
previous statement.
I'm not saying I'm 100% right, but I'll correct it if anything's wrong. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 39 true, when I watch the video of myself, I would guess mid 4.0 at best too
lol Still... i think they are over rated by ppl above.
I would say I seen many 4.5s that has better serves, the ones that don't,
have other weapons...
Count how many steps the white shirt take to get to the net after his serve.
.. go watch some 4.5s dubs and count how many steps they take, then go watch
the 5.0s...
Well, i guess white shirt did played a bit better later, but the red shirt
was pretty much just pushing the b... 阅读全帖 |
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s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 40 i apologize if i've offended you.
i compare them with what i have observed from your video and make my point.
and you compare them with other 4.5s or 5.0s and make your claim.
What is so different? Saying that they are mid 4.0 or 4.5 is no different
than saying a solid 4.5 or 5.0 will kick their ass, which i strongly
disagree |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 41 I said the white shirt person is mid 4.0 because I only watched him for
couple points. I later mentioned that he played better and I'm ok to qualify
him as 4.5.
As I mentioned before, I judge them by the flow of his game and strokes, can
I compare that to the flow of 4.5s and 5.0s. The key comparisons are the
their flow and their strokes, 4.5, 5.0 is merely a marker on the measure
stick.
Therefore, I do not feel my comparison is same as yours. I feel at least I
have some substance in it, where y... 阅读全帖 |
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f*******s
发帖数: 3046 | 42 我加入USTA后打了一次3.0的18+AW，现在加入6.5combo还没开始比赛，队长找我说，让
我自己去appeal到3.5，以防以后比赛成绩被disqualifed。我觉得我还没到3.5水平，
不想升级，年底能从3.0s变成3.0c就不错了。请问如果我combo真赢得比较多，s的也可
能被disqualifed吗？ |
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f*******s
发帖数: 3046 | 43 我昨天刚好查的比赛成绩。女亚军是西雅图的，第三是sunnyvale的，我想入usta时第
一个问的队，她们队有一个3.0s被dq了。他们所有队员年底都变成3.0b，还是只是真正
在az比赛的？ |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 44 I was beaten by someone who serve underhand at 4.5, he won most of his USTA
4.5 league matches (ones he lost to are like 5.0s). "不算weapon" =! "较烂"
Little Sweety's weapon is grind from the baseline til death, as long as
opponent can't attack too aggressively off his serve it serves its purpose.
Thus even at 4.5, his serve is far away from being "烂". It is true it has
room to improve though. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 45 Well I would say the main reason for failure is proper preparation. Your
mention of split step shuffle step is part of preparation, not prepare
early or proper upper body turn, 引拍is also very very important and easily
over looked. Even on the board ppl talk more stuff like wind sheild wiper,
swing path, wrist action etc....
Check a 4.5 or 5.0s prep against a 3.5 4.0 you'll see a significant
difference.
了。 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 46 Again this really go back to your definition of good shot. Tennisfans
regular shot is good enough so his opponent couldn't pressure him to a
extent that he would be way out of position. Would you consider that a good
shot?
For 3.5s or 4.0s I would recommend to work on a regular shot where you can
hit with only 70% energy, and still be able to keep the ball behind service
line with either good pace or spin or both, and is you are in position you
will never miss. This will be the corner stone of y... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 47 Easy to get a cramp too. I was in a much better shape at 4.0s yet I get more
cramps at 4.0 level, because I play tight. I think I know what you meant.
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longer. |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 48 that's your definition, and it is defined from a 3rd person point of view.
"如果opening变大是由对手被压迫导致的(forced)，那么属于attacking shot."
1. It's a fine line here. You can hit harder, go for more angle and force
opening变大, sure, I'll call that a 进攻shot.
2. But you too hit with the same effort you hit a "neutral" shot, go for the
"middle" and also cause opening变大. "middle" here is relative to your
court positioning, so it's still an angle from 3rd person point of view.
method 2 maybe enlarge the opening as... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s
发帖数: 6757 | 49 anyways, playing against 5.0s, I do better by following the rules than not.
Actually, playing against any level, I do better by following the rules lol |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 50 老大，是你说我是3.5S或者4.0S阿，从那以后我再也不敢高估了 ：）
其实你这里应该分单双打，或者弄个阔号，如果单双差很多，阔号里面标双打的. 比如
老ID newyorker64是4.5B. 是实打实的双打4.5，但是单打很容易的输给Ken了。肯双打
的成绩却不如他，至少现在是这样。Acc28我觉得也是,双打可以很强，单打我觉得
solid4.0, 看对手。Insideout是带队打进Sectional,差一场National的队长，怎么也
得给3.51。 |
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