s****s 发帖数: 775 | 1 这个结论还是基于一个老生常谈的原因,1hbh对付不了高球,而且引拍准备动作耗时太
长。sampras/federer都是用他们的超人技术(sampras - monster serve & reflex at
net; federer - all count half volley ability)最大程度抵消了1hbh拖后腿效应
,但对手还是把绝大多数球打向反手。平常如果有人说某某的1hbh很强,大概就是等同
于说他的1hbh拖的后腿比较少。 |
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O*********r 发帖数: 1835 | 2 这是近十到二十年来的说法。
80年代或是以前,大家都时新1hbh。桑普拉斯还专门从2hbh换到1hbh。而且当时大多球
手以发球上网打法为主。后来出现超级上旋打法,各种穿越的新技术,才把1hbh打入冷
宫。不过温网还是1hbh有优势。Volley & half volley are much easier . |
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h****h 发帖数: 1168 | 3 open stand is also the new direction.
1hbh close stand took too much time to become nutrual. |
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s****s 发帖数: 775 | 4 当年的2hbh动作还很千姿百态,并未成型,想当年connors evert的2hbh动作拿到今天
看是很诡异的
今天的2hbh已经非常成熟,拉,打,包括脚步不到位时候的“捞”,“兜”都可以胜任
还有一个,反手swing volley很难想象单手可以做到,虽然我在tennis channel上看过
1hbh swing volley instruction demo,但在实战中没有见过 |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 5 lol it's all relative...
if you want a good shbh for sure you need VERY good footwork - maybe even
more demanding than a dhbh because IMO margin of error for 1hbh is smaller.
If you just want a lazy swipe at the ball, of course you don't need to move
your feet as much since you can just extend your arm out longer with 1hbh.
So, it's all relative... You want a 1hbh like Gasquet or Guga? Work on
your footwork, A LOT. You want a 2hbh like Safin? Work on your footwork, A
LOT. You want a 1hbh li |
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r******n 发帖数: 1665 | 6 I switched from 1HBH to 2HBH Jan last year.
I played with the following racquet with 1HBH:
Prince O3 red 105
Prince Speedport Tour 93
Wilson Kfactor 6.1 Tour 90
Wilson Kfactor Zero 118
It really does not matter which racquet you use but Kfactor 6.1 tour 90 has
the best slice. (If you can only slice no topspin, it is not a complete 1HBH
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 7 I don't know. All I know is if I'm not *precisely* in position to hit my
1hbh, maybe I will still "hit" the ball, but chances are the ball will go
all over the place.
So I wouldn't say that 1hbh is easier footwork wise. Maybe if your goal is
to simply TOUCH the ball lol Then yea, you can probably take half a step
less in order to hit a 1hbh. This has nothing to do with the level of
demand on your footwork.
Actually I can hit 2hbh as well - and honestly if I'm really in a pinch and
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 8 My 1hbh is strictly low end. cc has much higher end 1hbh, and certainly
footwork is very important.
1hbh requires possibly more prep time than 2hbh because it's a less compact
and more flowing motion. This translates into you have to have more precise
timing on your swing, which translates into you have to be in the right
position at the right time - i.e., footwork.
If your goal is simply block the ball back, then it really doesn't matter -
just hold the racket in front of you and run whereeve |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 9 very true. sometimes when i'm running full speed to save a shot - i will
revert to 2hbh because i would not have enough time nor be in position to
properly set up a 1hbh.
At any level, the question really isn't which is "better", but which can YOU
execute better. There are always pros and cons to either style. Whether
it's good or not lies in your own execution.
I am painfully aware of my extremely weak 1hbh (played a tall black dude a
couple days ago and all he ever did the entire game was h |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 11 Of course I want a 1hbh like you! or maybe 2hbh like bee?
So what needs better footwork, your 1hbh or bee's 2hbh?
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move
A |
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j**c 发帖数: 234 | 12 good tip but too superficial. the reason not to use right hand too much is
due to continental grip. try to hit a 1hbh with continental grip, ball
will fly to the back fence. that's why ppl switch from 1hbh to 2hbh and
have consistency problem because they use too much right hand. imo, the
biggest problem to overcome is footwork tho. |
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 13 linhuchong反手 practice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTlINDiUZwM
Best 1HBH Lesson (in my opinion)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7taVCn_dgTQ
I feel that the biggest problem of linhuchong's 反手 is the exact same
problem as the student in the lesson, which is using too much arm. He should
use more shoulder. When practicing, you don't have to use ball machine.
Self drop the ball and hit 1hbh is good enough to learn the stroke initially
(just like the coach did in the video).
Hope it helps you 重建反... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1 发帖数: 5654 | 14 obow:
I went to my private IM and found out we contacted with each other
at the same time as deskew contacted me, so i mistook you as him.
寄信人: obow (steady and going down)
标 题: Re: 我奔了
发信站: 未名空间 (Sat May 16 20:19:22 2009)
来 源: 91.104.
Hi Chen91,
I have never played any TT matches in US, and I haven't played the game for
the last 9 years. As I am not familiar with the rating system I am also not
sure what level I could achieve even if I rediscover my best form overnight.
The best player I had... 阅读全帖 |
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o**w 发帖数: 337 | 15 Good to see a young Doc enjoying his tennis and improving his game by leaps
and bounds, think I have to change my definition of happiness to that of "
Happiness is about being able to enjoy a good game of tennis with a bunch of
true friends".
Somehow, one man's joy could be another man's demise, needing no further
deliberation, my elbow has seen better days than its current state, and
lately it has been affecting my otherwise trusted 1HBH topspin shots. The
pain has made me ever more hesistant t |
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w*****u 发帖数: 299 | 16 Last night I played against a player with excellent defense skill. He kept
on slicing backhand ball back, and I missed a lot.
After I won the 1st set by 6-3 - my serve is better than his and my leftie
FH still overpowered his 1HBH slice, I changed a little strategy, I started
to return some soft ball also to control errors, and slice short ball
closing to sideline occasionally.
I won 2nd set by 6-1. But I still don't like the way I played. It's good
enough to win match against 3.0 - 3.5 players, |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 17 Well essentially it's saying, you need to be a better all around player in
order to beat said pusher. Problem is, this is basically the same as saying
help much, right?
Analyze your opponent - everyone has weaknesses. What's his? Backhand
inconsistent? Has no net game? Hate moonballs? Etc. Then exploit it.
Since your guy is strong at net, what about lobbing high bouncing top-
spinning balls back to his backhand baseline? If he uses 1hbh he'll
definitely hate it... etc, etc.
Remember fig |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 18 FH: Gonzo/Potro - consistently powerful, but on a threat level, I would not
rank them as high as Federer's or Sampras's forehand.
2HBH: Safin, hands down the best 2HBHer. Agassi is up there too.
1HBH: Guga
2HFH: Seles due to a lack of competition
Serve: As the entire serving package (i.e., 1st + 2nd serve), Sampras w/o a
doubt.
Net: McEnroe
Movement: Federer
Fighting spirit: Nadal/Hewitt/Chang
Intimidation: Federer/Lendl |
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r******n 发帖数: 1665 | 19 Ben...to see if it is a solid 1HBH. |
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s*********d 发帖数: 2406 | 20 我还是发点视频吧
这些都是我收集的希望对你有用
我现在基本比赛一盘 不过会多于3个double Error 算是比较稳定了
当然速度上还是有距离
所以,最近开始练 kick serve
http://www.tennismindgame.com/serve-technique.html
这个教程虽然没有FYB的那么详细但是也很好,包括1HBH也有详细的介绍
发球 除了 toss pronation 外 最重要的是往上发,如果你的速度上不去 ,
尝试kick and top spin is not a bad idea.
很多时候这个东西还是得练习,找个真心想提高的parnter很重要 ,不要什么都是对抽
,比赛。
另外就是我常用的找好的camcorder 自己看,比较pro 的区别,去改进 。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 21 My goal is to hit the ball over the net and into the court, with
OK pace and depth. It's more or less a 3.0 goal, hehe.
So is it more appropriate to say for low end users, 1hbh seems
to have lower requirements on footwork than 2hbh?
is
and
can
a |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 22 那要这么说,偶那种彻底close stance(就是半弓箭步,论理只可能slice了)
下的1hbh也会阿,用暴力强行抡过去,虽然球速会很慢,呵呵。
这种也可以省半步,不过没什么用,能打过网的都是质量很差的。 |
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r******n 发帖数: 1665 | 23 It took me one and half year to get comfortable from 1HBH to 2HBH.... |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 25 No it just means my backhand isn't good and needs more practice :)
If your forehand isn't good what do you do? switch to backhand? lol
Actually I have done both shbh and dhbh. I never liked dhbh even though in
a pinch I have used it. shbh is more elegant and in some ways more
effective because you can more easily disguise your shots. I can disguise
my 1hbh so well that oftentimes I even fooled myself where my shot actually
went to... |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 26 Hey now, that was a down-the-line 1hbh passing shot! I think I make that
shot maybe 1 in 10 attempts... |
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a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 27
Nadal is a righty. He hits 1HBH, 2HFH. |
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j**c 发帖数: 234 | 28 joker switched from 1hbh to 2hbh according to himself. |
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g*****y 发帖数: 7271 | 29 wow,1hbh before age 7. He must be a big kid. |
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a*m 发帖数: 6253 | 30 可以这么说。。。
因为单反是反关节方向的运动,打出来了就很潇洒,因为大开大合,勇往直前,势如破
竹,(此处省略谀词如潮1万字)。。。
当然,也很难回头。。。
双反本身更合理,但是因为可以不断重复,所以不够刺激。。。 |
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a*m 发帖数: 6253 | 31 那个时代的方向就是雷霆一击,一剑封喉,所以大炮巨多,高手都是那些狂轰乱炸,攻
城拔寨,杀人如
麻的家伙。。。
现在的方向是多拍致胜,一定要重复率好才行。。。 |
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 32 I love to hear those 谀词如潮1万字! |
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d******x 发帖数: 11837 | 34 那时候草地速度最快。现在草地速度差不多最慢了。那时候的跑动没有这么变态。底线
的球速也很少见到一下子能打死对方的吧。。。 |
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t*********r 发帖数: 773 | 35 球线进步太多了。以前没有能能打出变态旋转的线,单反劣势不明显。 |
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r******n 发帖数: 1665 | 36 Yes, it will take a while to get there.
At the same time, do not dump your backhand slice. You still need it no
matter you play with 1hbh or 2hbh
sets
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a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 37 打球历史超长的,1HBH的可能性大。当年就好那口。 现在不会了。 |
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h*****c 发帖数: 569 | 38 I guess they can put a lot of pressure on their opponents 's backhand with
powerful forehand or 2hbh, so the 1hbh opponents do not have much
opportunity to hit backhand drive... |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 39 This is a perfect example why 1HBH has longer reach, hehe. |
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R*****n 发帖数: 610 | 40 hehe, same here same here.
the other reason is better return.
One of my friend (4.5)used to have beautiful 2hbh. But he broke his left arm
then now switch to 1hbh. just 3 months already pretty good... |
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a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 41 第一次听说这个说法,但有些道理。 虽然女子方面像海宁1hbh很牛,但女子的一个重
要区别是上旋没法跟男子比。 所以对男子来说,单反身高的因素估计真的很大。 不
然被人一直spin反手很难对付。 |
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R*****n 发帖数: 610 | 42 This is the reason I switch to 2 handed backhand. It is very difficult to
handle this kind of topspin with 1hbh. Even my 5.0 with good slice have
trouble to handle.. |
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 43 .
I used to be single hbh, then switched to double hbh. Now I started hitting
some single hbh, it actually improve tremendously. I'm still sticking with
2hbh, 1hbh when I'm on the run and opponent charges to the net. 1 hbh is
very powerful.
I don't recommend old knife to switch to 2hbh. I assume he is a crafty
player, this kind change won't benefit him much, it might act ually be more
detrimental. |
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 44 .
I used to be single hbh, then switched to double hbh. Now I started hitting
some single hbh, it actually improve tremendously. I'm still sticking with
2hbh, 1hbh when I'm on the run and opponent charges to the net. 1 hbh is
very powerful.
I don't recommend old knife to switch to 2hbh. I assume he is a crafty
player, this kind change won't benefit him much, it might act ually be more
detrimental. |
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 45 very common problem for ppl to switch from 1hbh to 2hbh: Too much right hand.
You should loose up the grip your right hand (dominent hand). 80%+ power
should come from your left hand. Otherwise, you might end up some elbow
problem. The best tip for that is only use 3 right-hand fingers to hold the
racquet. |
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 46 POS OS or POS Mid? Both are nice racquets with traditional feel, but their
string pattern are a little too open.
One of my tennis buddy previous using Yonex RQIS Tour 1, now switched to BLX
Six One Pro Staff. He is lefy 1hbh. He hit so good 1 hander now with this
new racquet. You might want to demo it.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/reviews/WPS95/WPS95review.html |
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 47 球打浅了, 被对手攻,你又跑不到,只有祈求对手unforced error了。你首先要做到
争取把球打深。
如果你能跑到,可以一下选择:
1. open stance 2hbh
2. close stance 1hbh slice
3. close stance chip lob
#1 is best choice。 #2 ,#3 are low percentage.
么干 |
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 48 Yes, it's him, wearing white shirt, 1HBH playing with acc. I did play one
set with him after their match.
xbd, i'm not sure why you forgot playing with me. :) |
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 49 Let me make sure we are on the same page before my rebuttal, the thesis of
your argument is that when parenting or teaching a kid, one should keep an
open mind, laid out and explain all the choices in front of the kid, let the
kid experiment and decide for themselves.
I too advocate such ideology. However, ideology often is not pragmatic, one
should only use it as an general guideline. Constantly preaching ideology
often results in not getting anything done (current US president and
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l********g 发帖数: 677 | 50 曾经试过一段时间,还是觉得1hbh更comfatible |
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