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g******g
发帖数: 808 | 2 把Lexus.和BMW放在同一个句子里面
好大的侮辱 |
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r**m
发帖数: 2823 | 4 2012 A6? (you probably won't make a good resell though) |
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i****x
发帖数: 17565 | 5 本人graduate school期间多年驾驶手动miata。这车开着很爽，但是毕竟是两座，内饰
纯塑料，而且上高速很吵。现在工作了，老了，要成家了，开始考虑换辆舒服点又开着
爽的手动车，首选当然就是驾驶手感久负盛名，号称entry level luxury的bmw3了。这
几天先为ld选车，去各处dealer看了一圈车，试驾了几辆，最后顺路来到bmw，没有试
驾，只是坐进bmw3比划了半天，结果心彻底凉了。。。
本人标准asian身高，174，也不胖。一坐进正驾座里，首先发现车dashboard垂直在面
前，车玻璃也离驾驶员很近。腿基本没有活动空间，很容易碰到方向盘底座。不夸张地
说，驾驶仓空间跟miata相比都不如，至少miata里腿绝对碰不到方向盘底座，当然
miata座位比bmw3要低得多。bmw3的内饰风格很传统，跟先前给ld看的accura相比感觉
像上个世纪的设计，一块垂直的黑面板上一堆突起的黑按钮。虽然仔细看车内也有不少
真皮覆盖，但不知为啥皮都是那种很粗的质地，按ld的话讲是“猪皮”的感觉。但最大
的失望是在后座，我以前坐过E46的后座，觉得腿伸不开，以为E90应该已... 阅读全帖 |
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H***F
发帖数: 2501 | 6 每次看到说车要看内饰总觉得不可思议。。。我太geek了，只关心各种电子装备，越先
进越好。。
本人graduate school期间多年驾驶手动miata。这车开着很爽，但是毕竟是两座，内饰
纯塑料，而且上高速很吵。现在工作了，老了，要成家了，开始考虑换辆舒服点又开着
爽的手动车，首选当然就是驾驶手感久负盛名，号称entry level luxury的bmw3了。这
几天先为ld选车，去各处dealer看了一圈车，试驾了几辆，最后顺路来到bmw，没有试
驾，只是坐进bmw3比划了半天，结果心彻底凉了。。。
本人标准asian身高，174，也不胖。一坐进正驾座里，首先发现车dashboard垂直在面
前，车玻璃也离驾驶员很近。腿基本没有活动空间，很容易碰到方向盘底座。不夸张地
说，驾驶仓空间跟miata相比都不如，至少miata里腿绝对碰不到方向盘底座，当然
miata座位比bmw3要低得多。bmw3的内饰风格很传统，跟先前给ld看的accura相比感觉
像上个世纪的设计，一块垂直的黑面板上一堆突起的黑按钮。虽然仔细看车内也有不少
真皮覆盖，但不知为啥皮都是那种很粗的质地，按ld的话讲... 阅读全帖 |
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G*****m
发帖数: 5395 | 7 inifiniti是不是还不错
每次看到说车要看内饰总觉得不可思议。。。我太geek了，只关心各种电子装备，越先
进越好。。
本人graduate school期间多年驾驶手动miata。这车开着很爽，但是毕竟是两座，内饰
纯塑料，而且上高速很吵。现在工作了，老了，要成家了，开始考虑换辆舒服点又开着
爽的手动车，首选当然就是驾驶手感久负盛名，号称entry level luxury的bmw3了。这
几天先为ld选车，去各处dealer看了一圈车，试驾了几辆，最后顺路来到bmw，没有试
驾，只是坐进bmw3比划了半天，结果心彻底凉了。。。
本人标准asian身高，174，也不胖。一坐进正驾座里，首先发现车dashboard垂直在面
前，车玻璃也离驾驶员很近。腿基本没有活动空间，很容易碰到方向盘底座。不夸张地
说，驾驶仓空间跟miata相比都不如，至少miata里腿绝对碰不到方向盘底座，当然
miata座位比bmw3要低得多。bmw3的内饰风格很传统，跟先前给ld看的accura相比感觉
像上个世纪的设计，一块垂直的黑面板上一堆突起的黑按钮。虽然仔细看车内也有不少
真皮覆盖，但不知为啥皮... 阅读全帖 |
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g****j
发帖数: 2908 | 8 别听一些人张口就来，什么audi带T的就不好。2.0T的发动机得过多年的发动机大奖，
Torque大，马力也不算低。现在奔驰C250和BMW的新款也都上的是twin-turbo和I4的
supercharge，要说T不好，那德车估计都是专门来坑爹的。T的发动机相对来说可能是
脆弱一点，但一来发动机坏这是小概率事件，二来也不是audi的就特别容易坏,以前被
人骂死的是bmw的335i和535i的发动机，后来彻底改款了才好点。
以你的预算，其实选择很多，如果喜欢小车，就上audi TT，不在乎软顶就上TT的趟蓬
，不喜欢软顶就上coupe，预算可能会超一点，不过还还价，超不了太多。如果上benz
，就上C250，新款的C系内部比旧款的强太多了。
如果喜欢SUV，那Q5应该是最佳选择，加上配置，也超了一点预算，不过不会超太多。
如果想省钱，那就上VW的车，那可以省好多钱，不过估计你也不会考虑这个 |
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f******t
发帖数: 7283 | 9 外观内饰这些受个人主观因素影响的没法比。看有数据可比的那些（加速、操控、价格
）。让数字来说话，我就不评论了：
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Camry V6
MSRP $27,400
0-60mph: 5.8s
1/4mile: 14.3s
Roadholding: 0.83g
Accord V6
MSRP $30,400
0-60mph: 6.6s
1/4mile: 15.2s
Roadholding: 0.79g
Sonata 2.0T
MSRP $28,885
0-60mph: 6.5s
1/4mile: 14.9s
Roadholding: 0.79g
Passat 3.6SEL
MSRP $33,720
0-60mph: 6.3s
1/4mile: 14.8s
Roadholding: 0.79g
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Audi A6 3.0T
MSRP $52,035
0-60mph: 5.6s
1/4mile: 14.1s
Roadholding: 0.88g
BMW... 阅读全帖 |
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g********d
发帖数: 19244 | 10 佳美亮了
外观内饰这些受个人主观因素影响的没法比。看有数据可比的那些（加速、操控、价格
）。让数字来说话，我就不评论了：
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Camry V6
MSRP $27,400
0-60mph: 5.8s
1/4mile: 14.3s
Roadholding: 0.83g
Accord V6
MSRP $30,400
0-60mph: 6.6s
1/4mile: 15.2s
Roadholding: 0.79g
Sonata 2.0T
MSRP $28,885
0-60mph: 6.5s
1/4mile: 14.9s
Roadholding: 0.79g
Passat 3.6SEL
MSRP $33,720
0-60mph: 6.3s
1/4mile: 14.8s
Roadholding: 0.79g
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Audi A6 3.0T
MSRP $52,035
0-60mph: 5.6s
1/4mile: 14.1s
Roadholding: 0.8... 阅读全帖 |
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h*********8
发帖数: 404 | 11 i seriously doubt the CD testing for new camry... how can it be possible in
5.8s? very close to bmw 535i which is 5.7s?
the road holding is better than MB and infiniti too....
need to see braking and crush testing....
then lets wait to see the new lexus ES/GS which should be even better.... |
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f******t
发帖数: 7283 | 12 外观内饰这些受个人主观因素影响的没法比。看有数据可比的那些（加速、操控、价格
）。让数字来说话，我就不评论了：
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Camry V6
MSRP $27,400
0-60mph: 5.8s
1/4mile: 14.3s
Roadholding: 0.83g
Accord V6
MSRP $30,400
0-60mph: 6.6s
1/4mile: 15.2s
Roadholding: 0.79g
Sonata 2.0T
MSRP $28,885
0-60mph: 6.5s
1/4mile: 14.9s
Roadholding: 0.79g
Passat 3.6SEL
MSRP $33,720
0-60mph: 6.3s
1/4mile: 14.8s
Roadholding: 0.79g
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Audi A6 3.0T
MSRP $52,035
0-60mph: 5.6s
1/4mile: 14.1s
Roadholding: 0.88g
BMW... 阅读全帖 |
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g********d
发帖数: 19244 | 13 佳美亮了
外观内饰这些受个人主观因素影响的没法比。看有数据可比的那些（加速、操控、价格
）。让数字来说话，我就不评论了：
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Camry V6
MSRP $27,400
0-60mph: 5.8s
1/4mile: 14.3s
Roadholding: 0.83g
Accord V6
MSRP $30,400
0-60mph: 6.6s
1/4mile: 15.2s
Roadholding: 0.79g
Sonata 2.0T
MSRP $28,885
0-60mph: 6.5s
1/4mile: 14.9s
Roadholding: 0.79g
Passat 3.6SEL
MSRP $33,720
0-60mph: 6.3s
1/4mile: 14.8s
Roadholding: 0.79g
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Audi A6 3.0T
MSRP $52,035
0-60mph: 5.6s
1/4mile: 14.1s
Roadholding: 0.8... 阅读全帖 |
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h*********8
发帖数: 404 | 14 i seriously doubt the CD testing for new camry... how can it be possible in
5.8s? very close to bmw 535i which is 5.7s?
the road holding is better than MB and infiniti too....
need to see braking and crush testing....
then lets wait to see the new lexus ES/GS which should be even better.... |
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l********y
发帖数: 345 | 15 535i + Manual Transmission. I get high every time I think about this.... |
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l********y
发帖数: 345 | 16 535i + Manual Transmission. I get high every time I think about this.... |
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m**********8
发帖数: 45 | 17 已付款，请查询。d***[email protected]
2011 BMW 535I
VIN: WBAFR7C58BC803184
多谢！ |
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m**********8
发帖数: 45 | 18 已付款，请查询。d***[email protected]
2011 BMW 535I
VIN: WBAFR7C58BC803184
多谢！ |
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m**********8
发帖数: 45 | 19 顶!!
收到 report.非常快速安全
2011 BMW 535I
VIN: WBAFR7C58BC803184
ID;mengland1968 |
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i*******e
发帖数: 436 | 20 看上两车，一台是2008 BMW 535i SPORT NAVI COMFORT ACCESS COLD WTHR PKG，3.3万迈.另一辆是2009 Lexus GS 350 NAVI-RVSRE CAM，2.7万迈. 都是一手lease完退回来的车。价钱上，BMW是买30000，Lexus要价32500.
如果是你，会选那一台？ |
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i*******e
发帖数: 436 | 21 抱歉，错了，是535i，已经改过来了，不过确实也有一两X5，要32500. |
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m*****a
发帖数: 382 | 22 Just want to let u know, BMW 535i 2008 model is one of the worst vehicles.
My boss and one of my friend returned that car to dealer by lemon law! |
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s*******r
发帖数: 310 | 23 2011款标准配置，现在多少拿下算Deal?
那位大侠有buying experience分享一下?
第一次买豪华车很紧张的说。 |
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s*******r
发帖数: 310 | 26 standard feature w/o any upgrade:
msrp$53125, sell for $50100, if you finance from bmw will get extra $1000
credit, your price only $49100, otd around $54100
SF/Bay area, 来自dealer的第一次报价，有多少杀价空间? |
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s*******r
发帖数: 310 | 27 BTW:metallic paint有必要吗？这个报价是non metallic paint + leather的价格。 |
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h*********8
发帖数: 404 | 28 Even no premium Pkg? Then why not 528? Only slight performance difference |
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j***k
发帖数: 2719 | 29 Buy Japanese cars and leasse German.
the 5-series is very unreliable, musch worse than the 3 series, which is
already below average in relibility. Yes, its fun to dirve them, but after 4
years and the car warranty is over, be sure to return it. Its not worth is.
Only lease. |
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a******e
发帖数: 5411 | 30 If you don't really want premium package, offer 45k. |
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b***t
发帖数: 1104 | 32 +1
exact experience from my own
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a******e
发帖数: 5411 | 35 if it is dealer inventory, it is possible to get 10K off MSRP.
when such a base model sits on dealer lot for a long time, dealer is in a
big hurry to get rid of it. |
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s*******r
发帖数: 310 | 36 It is 2012 model and they need to order it from Germany. |
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b*******s
发帖数: 2279 | 37 裸车没意思...劝你不要买.可以考虑335d. |
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s*******r
发帖数: 310 | 38 Is premium package that important? |
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S******4
发帖数: 2865 | 39 I think there is a gigantic performance difference, especially 5 series is
now close to 2 tons. |
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S******4
发帖数: 2865 | 40 By the way did you look at the new A6? I think it's a better car than 5
series, since the God-damned electrical steering on new 5 has removed half
of its BMW-ness. |
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s*******r
发帖数: 310 | 41 No. People in this board think Audi is even worse than BMW, reliability wise
:-). |
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n********c
发帖数: 421 | 42 好久没关注bmw的新车了，一直以为以前的318以后bmw就没有4缸发动机了。
现在的6=528居然是4缸turbo，328估计也快了，难逃厄运。 |
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S******4
发帖数: 2865 | 43 LOL. Do you want to buy your own car just based on what others think?
Not to mention some haters here can't even afford 535/A6 so all they do is
bull shitting.
wise |
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S******4
发帖数: 2865 | 44 F30 328i in 2012 will have the N20 engine, turbo 4. |
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G*****m
发帖数: 5395 | 45 不是说2012 5284钢turbo 性能比2011 V6更好？
这个turbo可靠性到底怎么样啊，之前535的HPFP不是很诟病么 |
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b*******s
发帖数: 2279 | 46
不仅是premium package,还有M Sports package, 我个人认为是必不可少的. |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 47 what's the percentage of Americans with an advanced degree?
And then what's the point taking into account the average American's income?
Before long i did some homework with BMW and the 3-year lease for a 535i
is somewhere between 600-700/month, and my reasonable estimate is that
leasing cost for an E350 is close to that, or at most a little more. And
what backed my judgement is that, plenty of my friends can easily afford
that.
And sure, none of them have kids for the moment.
70k |
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g*******n
发帖数: 86 | 48 BMW 535i? 最近买08 preowned有活动。知道的说说这一款咋样？ |
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S******4
发帖数: 2865 | 49 You must be kidding.
A6 3.0 is quite a bit faster than 535i. |
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e*******e
发帖数: 1144 | 50 The new generation of A6 is much faster than BMW 535i, mainly due to its
weight reduction. Of course, BMW 5 is probably still better on handling. |
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