v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 1 initially i bought it just to measure how far i could hit. after two rounds
using it, GPS makes my game funnier. i compared it with other benchmarks,
such as google satillite map, pretty accurate.
it's neo igolf, i got about 120 bucks, plus one time data fee, 34 bucks
additional.
this time, no GIR on par3. but thanks to your R7 driver,
GIR on longest holes last saturday, including 560yard #6: R7 to about 240
yards, 6i intentional slice to turn the corner, 15x yards left by GPS, 8i
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 2 concur. i could hit 8i to 15x or 16x. all depends on the slight difference of ball position, or how far ahead of ball my hands are at impact. but i could not control these variance, it all occurs somewhat randomly...
yellowstone7:
you on the way to carry 290 yard, even 300 yard soon?
at memorial clinic, jack interviewing dustin johnson, who emphasis "rhythm", smooth and hit solid. ball speed 180mph or so, launch angle about 10*, back spin only 2400 or so. carry 324 yards!
just discover my hip mo |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 3 8i to 15x or 16x？Wow! Lady pro?
of ball position, or how far ahead of ball my hands are at impact. but i
could not control these variance, it all occurs somewhat randomly...
", smooth and hit solid. ball speed 180mph or so, launch angle about 10*,
back spin only 2400 or so. carry 324 yards!
harder i want to hit, the more it sway to target. will fix it, see if any
change on ball flight and distance... |
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y**********7
发帖数: 769 | 4 I cannot hit my 8i to 15x or 16x because I'm using a pretty old set of
clubs. Four years ago, I could hit 9i to 150 yards with same set of clubs. I
don't think it made any sense because I couldn't hit accurately at that
time. When we talk about distance, we must say it based on consistency.
Without consistency, it doesn't mean anything.
As to "you on the way to carry 290 yard, even 300 yard soon?", I don't think
so. Increasing 10mph is not easy. 300 yard needs 120mph controllable swing
speed. T |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 5 You're probably right. I'm supposed to do better planning for my games. In
most time, I am always in hurry to get my ball on the green. For par3, I use
one of my long irons, and for par4 and par5, I tee off with my driver or 3
wood and regardless of how bad the teeing off is, I either use a wedge to
correct my fault or use one iron to get the ball close to the green, which
ends up with using wedges a lot.
away.
8i, |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 6 i am still a bit puzzled to max out longer club...
i have no problem hit 8i to 160 (last week play hit that distance with nice
high trajectory), but not yet routine 250 or not even 240 for driver yet.
5i 170 yard, didn't feel swing very good on that one. feels that hitting
longer club with designated distance should come with very good precision...
a bit off, the distance loss is very substantial...
Aff--- how did your driver go from routine 230 to routine 250+, any tips
?
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o***u
发帖数: 1853 | 7 这种球无所谓那种打法正确，那种打法自己觉得舒服用那种，就像我说了要是我就用3
号木推。
所以我说了TW那天在决策上没有什么错误，用8i或者9i，是putting还是chipping问题
都不大，所以说是老天不让他赢，让风把球多吹了1yard.
至于最后2推出问题不是决定性因素，那球只要在1st cut里就稳稳当当的par. |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 8 thought you like wind, you were writing how much you like playing costal
link course a while ago.
i feel the same urge to reduce number of clubs in bag. probably 7 clubs
enough --- 7i,8i, pw,sw,5wood, 3wood, driver, putter
maybe keep 3i, not for low stinger shot agaist wind, but for low shot
through hanging tree branches, but again, even this can be replaced with
choke down 3wood...
this also save equipment costs, doesn't it... |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 9 dont know how to translate "green approach" to chinese...
beside monster drives, long appoach is equally thrilling if not more, and a
step closer to close the deal...
212 yard par 3, #hole 12 boundary oak, black tee, about 20ft to bin (parred
the hole)
again i found yardage sign error at local course, i had to move back 5-6
yards further back from black tee, till GPS telling me 210 yards from center
of green
other memorable mentions
175 yard at par 3 summit pointe, 8i to about 20ft, down wind |
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n***n
发帖数: 247 | 10 the hole is 432 par 4. flat, maybe downwind on that day, but i don't
remember.
this guy is a long hitter for sure. I remembered he almost reached green on
all par 5's. but for that particular hole, his drive was not that good, it
landed a little bit further than mine. then his second shot got over the
green landed on the rough on the other side. i am pretty sure he used 8i,
maybe 7i, but no more because after the shot, i asked him "how do you do
this?", he joked, "I cheated".
105Mph
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 11 if so good with 9i and 56d, can try to play a course with just 5-6 clubs. it
should remove the range ball conitunous hit effect.
probably break or near 90 and it will be a nice try. and will probably find
why you hit those clubs so good.
sometimes i feel very good about my 8i, i feel the length of it just right
comfortable for me, and the memory of hitting many good shots before also
helps.
不过真正OWN YOUR SWING的时候， 还是ET 说到的那种感觉， 什么竿到了手上都一样.
我觉得还是高个子站便宜, differnce of the swing plane is smaller for |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 12 这让我想起 YELLOWSTONE 以前提起的
练空挥 和 SPEED STICK， 找到新的RHYTHM
然后练用新的RHYTHM 可以打实 球。。。 DRIVE ２７０－ ２９０
我想挥竿速度一变
RHYTHM 也会变， 而适应新的RHYTHM需要时间
seems that pro golfers alwasy has extra gear to their swing, when they can hit longer than normal.
such as Mickelson use 8i going for 190-200 yard.
or tiger used to said when he needs 20 yards more from his driver, he snapped his left leg quicker...
YELLOWSTONE 在吗， COMMNEnT 一下 |
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p****4
发帖数: 517 | 13 Yesterday I measured my club head speed with 2 different 8 irons.
1. Taylormade CGB with REAX 55 gram graphite in stiff flex
2. Titleist AP2 with Rifle Flighted 5.0 (probably 110 gram)
The CGB 8i is about 1/4" longer than AP2. To my surprise, the AP2 was 2 mph
faster than CGB in average (10+ hits).
I have been told the lighter shaft gives me more speed. Is that really true?
??? |
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i****e
发帖数: 913 | 14 1. 2mph out of 90mph (average 8i swing speed of amateurs) is not a big diff to begin with.
2. It is - If Everything Else (grip/clubhead) kept the the same, switching to lighter shaft will generate more clubhead speed.
I don't have a number to back it up, but to me the cavity-style r7 CGB Max irons have significantly larger clubhead, which translates to heavier, when comparing to muscleback-style AP2.
So the total weight of CGB might not be any lighter (if not heavier) than AP2.
3. People tend to... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 15 定义偏线 30马以内， 距离20马以内为可用， usability %.
had a practice session recently:
195 flag, 7i 100%, mostly balls stopped back green or over.
205 flag, 6i, 42%
236 flag, 4i, 56% 好的时候 220多
236 flag, hybrid 3, 20%， 打的最好的时候距离能达到 230-340. 但是不好的时候
还不如7i管用。 我轻打也不行， choke down 也没有起色。 我想是不是安排在后面，
疲劳了， 注意力不集中了。 但是重新7i, 195 flag 又on target.
不是打hybrid 的料？ 也有可能我的 这个hybrid 的fitting 跟铁杆差异较大， 所以
手感不同。。。
local 有一个 220的par3, front green 208， 有205的carry 基本上就可以对付乐。
6i - 4i 还是有培养前途。。
要carry 200 多， 还是要发力。 有一些压力。多打也许会... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 16 tried this tip and it does not work for me. thanks anyway.
last 2 practice sessions driver 很差， 仍然很多top spin low fly 加上nose
dive。 原因我也知道， 就是club head close too much at impact, 完全变成网球上
手抽球。
我尝试了先打pw,8i warm up and get into groove. shot iron 打的校准， 距离也
很不错（比我当时的大多driver 还远）， 直接上手。 但是driver 还是答不出应有的
launch angel。
driver swing 和iron swing 还是不同。 最近的一个practice session, 我用了5 球
就矫正了driver。时不时还有low hook, 但是至少没有top spin nose dive 了。
我的解决办法是前后连着swing （多个swing 连着没有间隔， finish drop down 马上back swing down swin... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 17 Things change. I rarely used my 5i and 8i for most time of this year and
started using 5i and 4i just a few weeks ago. I realize I can hit my my long
irons as before, so I only keep one hybrid in the bag now and hit it once
in the last two games.
Most frequently used club in my bag: my lob wedge, I used it 16 times for
the last game. Averagely I use it 12 to 14 times per game. |
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b*******2
发帖数: 412 | 18 hybrid比长铁杆对HANDICAP双位数的人来说要好用。
我有3h, 4h, 还有个5h，不过5H有时和5号铁换着用。
距离大概：
3H: 210-225
4H: 195-210
5H(I): 180-190
6I: 170-180
7I: 155-165
8I: 145-155
距离很大程度取决于挥杆，可以多练练基础的东西，比如GRIP, STANCE, BALANCE,
SWING，会很有帮助的。我现在就在练习BALANCE，需要有针对性的练习，一个问题一个
问题的解决。球杆对于击球的影响，除非是高手需要SHAPE THE BALL，否则一般心理作
用更大点。
50yard |
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 19 准备晚些再玩spin之类的花活。我的8i往上球都很高，特别是Wedge，简直就是用来测
风向的，不过Virginia的风应该没有德州大，暂时没觉得有什么大影响。我倒是喜欢攻
果岭时打高球，不好的就是一旦弹道低了就飞过了，短也比过强，初学的这样想。 |
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D***m
发帖数: 129 | 20 I have stable swings for 8i, 9i, and shorter clubs. The swing plane is steep
and I try to feel I am hit the ball into the ground.
I also have stable swings for driver, 3w/h, 4w/h. The swing plane is much
flatter and my feel is to sweep the ball across the turf.
I am struggling with 7i, 6i and especially 5i. The 5i is 38.5" long and it
is a bit too long for me. I choke down on the grip. However, it is still an
awkward feeling. The swing plane it too flat for me to feel hitting down
into the groun... 阅读全帖 |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 21 Here is my distance table, all measured at a grass tee range with range
balls. The ground is between fairway and rough conditions. So on real course
I am actually a few yards longer if I get a nice impact (but can also be
less when the shot is bad)
equipment: Taylormade R7 XD Stiff
(all carry distances)
Driver: 190-200
3W:170
5W: 150
4H: 140
5I: 120-130
6I: 110-120
7I: 110
8I: 100
I feel my distance are 40 yards less than what it should be.
With this table, bogey for par 4s and par for par 5s a... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 22 The loft angle of an 8 iron is about 36 to 40 degree, and SW's about 54 to
56 degree. Usually I don't use them to cover the same distance range except
for chipping with a 8i vs pitching with a SW. Suggest that you stablize your
average hitting distances with each club first.
also
sweet |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 23 8i is for 100 yards approach. sw is for everything under 80 yards.
9i and pw are mostly useless for me.
except
your |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 24 多谢鼓励．最近几乎每两个星期都有新体会．确实感觉不错．
顺便贴一下我的距离表，与半年前对比．
equipment: Taylormade R7 XD Stiff
April 2012 October 2012
(all carry distances)
Driver: 190-200 200 (+ -)
3W:170 180-
5W: 150 170-
4H: 140 150+
5I: 120-130 150
6I: 110-120 140-
7I: 110 130
8I: 100 120+
9i 110-
pw 100
sw 70 (full swing)
+ 的意思是经常可以多３到５码，-的意思是经常少３到５码
可以看出最大进步在铁杆上．
arc |
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D***m
发帖数: 129 | 25 我有wrist hinge.
其它杆的距离:
pw 110
9i 120
8i 130
7i 140
6i 150
5i 160
4h 170
3h 180
我不用wood. |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 26 我有不同意见。
我现在driver 200 carry 没问题。carry+roll 一般到220-230.
但这样就剩下150-180 码，对我而言就是5i, 4h, 5w, 3w 打approach. 一般我都上不
了果岭。这样就只能拿bogey average. 一两个洞没打好总杆数就 92-95。这也就是我
最近的情
形。
偶尔make up and down 甚至chip in 都是有的。但是80小几 -- 太难，基本不可能。
如果driver 可以carry 230, carry+roll 可以260-280， approach 就可以用 8i, 9i,
pw, GIR就会增加很多。80小几才可以打到。 |
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C******s
发帖数: 1917 | 27 你的意思我明白，但是260-280的开球距离绝对不是单差的必要条件。
我不知道你周围打球的人里，有多少是单差或者经常80小几，你觉得他们中间有多少开
球距离可以平均到260-280这个标准？
我见过的单差能够平均开球260-280的大概不到10%。偶尔蒙上一把或者顺风顺势打倒这
个距离的不算，按我的经验（我平时打球的球友大多是单差），说单差球手平均240-
250觉得都有点在褒奖他们。
而且还有一个因素你没考虑到，就是真的开球到了260-280这个距离，只要稍微偏一点
就不在球道了，一旦进了长草沙坑树林甚至OB，就不是你想像的8i,9i活pw的问题了。
这是为什么很多时候打难度高的球场，driver经常是每场球只拿出来几次。
9i, |
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C******s
发帖数: 1917 | 28 又看了一下记分卡，回顾了一下下午的球，突然发现今天基本没有几次在果岭周围切球
。或者说，自我感觉铁杆发挥还是不错的。
推杆以前（包括击中果岭和果岭边缘可以直接推的短草区）最后击球使用的杆统计如下：
2H, 1次
3i, 1次
4i, 1次
5i, 1次
6i, 1次
7i, 2次
8i, 3次
9i, 1次
PW, 1次
GW, 4次
SW, 2次
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总计：18次
也就是说，18个洞，只有两次是用的58度的SW切上去的，其中一次是果岭侧面几米的长
草中，另一次是五十码外的球道中，其他所有的approach shot都是100-240码之间的距
离，有16个洞在这个距离范围内能够使用2H-GW铁杆基本命中目标（果岭或果岭几码内
短草区），这个对我来说绝对是超水平发挥了。好像有种说法是好球场会检验球包里的
所有球杆，这个球场至少做倒这个了。：）
今天所丢的杆主要是两种情况，一种是开球失误，包括直接罚杆（三次，其中两次是
hazards，一次unplayable lie），或者开到很难打的地方（比如树后长草中1次），球
道沙坑中（2次, 每次只能打几十码，一次是6i打t... 阅读全帖 |
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 29 周六下午18洞，开车，打到五点半，前9很烂，特别是short game，还有两次罚杆。56
是近来少有的。后9打了44，平最好成绩。关键是罚杆少，16推。其实没必要开车，反
正也是一路等。
大概是后9战绩不错，晚上还是手痒，准备怎样也要再挥几下。
周日早场，称老婆孩子还在睡。走18洞，前后都是48。推杆其实比周六还烂，但因为没
有4推，又比较平均，基本是几个2推后夹次3推。好几个标on都让3推毁了。唯一的亮点
是因为走，只带8根杆子，本来要用7i的3杆洞在6和8内选。后来用8i瞄右打出一记high
draw，落点在旗左后大约20feet，break很大，一般这样的很容易过洞很多。结果hold
住了，推到洞杯口，拿了唯一一个par。
12点不到结束，去买了菜，回家谎报打了9洞。下午抱着内疚的心情耙了落叶做了饭。
真累啊。
下次还是悠着点，周末练2次球，打个9洞算了。其实冬天挺好，人少。就是不能像夏天
，平时下了班还可以打个9洞，这样周末多在家呆着。 |
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x****5
发帖数: 1564 | 30 not bad for first 18 holes, at least you can use all your clubs in the bag.
A friend of mine played his first 18 holes with me last year when he didn't
learn how to use driver. He used his 8i for most of the shots! If you don't
have enough balls, try to use your favorite club even for the tee shot. |
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h****d
发帖数: 53 | 31 第二个洞，176 yards，8i加两个PUTTs就进了，实在羡慕。 第八个洞，150yards，9i
加1PUTT还外加了三杆，掉沙子里啦？仔仔细细看过后认为铁杆运用自如，上GREEN很快
，推的准，经验多，肯定是高手。 |
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x****5
发帖数: 1564 | 32 two birds! wow, I have to say you win this time.
I didn't get any bird for more than a week.
too many penalties though. If you can get rid of most of your penalties, it
will be very difficult for me to win.
Your 8i is very impressive.
Tomorrow I will try to play a round. Hope to get one or more birds. |
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 33 场上码数和实际有出入，而且山地球场，有时是下坡，距离被放大了。我8i一般是130-
140的range，很肉的。哦最后一洞用的是9i，前旗也就是120的样子，结果fade打成
draw，整整多出20码。70尺长推过洞5feet，回推不入，一如既往的短推手软。
看中午找时间说说这场球，拍了好几张照片的说。
it |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 34 我最近改了动作后，发现铁杆 carry 距离出现变化。所有铁杆都比以前打得远一些，
但是短铁
远得更多。
下面这张表可以讲得比较清楚
铁杆# 6月距离 9月距离
sw 60 80
pw 100 120
8i 120 130+
7i 130 140
6i 140 150-
5i 150- 150+
+ 表示多 2-5 码， - 表示少 2-5 码
短杆长了20码，长铁长得不到10码。结果是大家挤在一起。
木杆基本上没变化。
不知这是何故。 |
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x****5
发帖数: 1564 | 36 看贴不仔细，或者我没说清楚。
那个9铁145码是上次打模拟机时显示的数据，我说了这个距离和室外实际距离是不符合
的，模拟机上我开球平均距离还260码呢，所以我说那个模拟机打了鸡血。我的实际距
离比模拟机上显示的距离应该短15码左右。
我现在的距离大概是这个样子：
driver 240-250
3w 220
3h 210
4h 190-200
5i 170-175
6i 160-165
7i 155
8i 140
9i 130
Pw 120
Aw 100
Sw 80
Lw 60
我的这个梯度还合适吗？
比较别扭的距离是180 和 110。一般我都是选择长一号杆握短。 |
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q***q
发帖数: 3356 | 37 可能的问题很多，最有可能的是没有lag。
我把8号上的tour velvet midsize （53.5g）改成了new decade standard size（46.
5g），之后swing weight从D0大概变成了D2，平均距离稍有增加，更主要的是打到之后
的手感好像会更实在一些。
我的铁杆是Titleist ZM。我有时候怀疑这套里的7i到PW是假的，因为这几根杆很难打
到甜点。相比之下6i和5i的手感反而更好。8i换了grip之后好了一些，算给了我点希望。 |
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q***q
发帖数: 3356 | 38 我的ZM 7i是449g。我还有一个ping s57 7i，436g，swing weight也高一些，明显比ZM
打的要远一点。
其实球杆的区别就在那么一点点。7i比8i也就长半寸，打出来就差10码。
另外其实我手比较大，所以以前换的midsize。现在握杆不那么紧了，所以觉得
standard size也可以用。 |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 39 我其实基本水平没长.成绩提高完全是心态的原因.
比如说, 开球进树林,有一个小 opening 可以攻岭.以前我瞄着那个 opening 就打,没
准还特 fancy, 搞个 draw, slice 什么的, 狗屎运来的时候也能打出 pro 水平的球,
但是大部分时候再次砸在树上.
现在呢? 老老实实用 8i 横着一磕, 回到球道上, 然后一上两推.
一场球下来一点高光没有. |
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C****w
发帖数: 118 | 40 X5 4.8i xdrive sports. 目前是 Bridgestone all season。
冬天住Tahoe，大部分时间雪路。 平地还好，主要考虑坡， 上个雪季住 Tahoe Donner
， 每天山上山下跑， 有几段路常有冰冻。
看谁用过这两种雪胎，有对比，或其他推荐。 谢了。 |
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C****w
发帖数: 118 | 41 X5 4.8i xdrive sports. 目前是 Bridgestone all season。
冬天住Tahoe，大部分时间雪路。 平地还好，主要考虑坡， 上个雪季住 Tahoe Donner
， 每天山上山下跑， 有几段路常有冰冻。
看谁用过这两种雪胎，有对比，或其他推荐。 谢了。 |
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发帖数: 19309 | 43 "It has been confirmed that IBM will be pulling out of Cell development,
with their current PowerXCell 8i to be the company's last entrance in
the technology.
The Cell Processor was originally the brain child of 'The Father of
PlayStation' Ken Kutaragi. It was later co-developed by Sony, IBM and
Toshiba; making it's way into the PlayStation 3, TV's and super
computers.
Featuring a central general-purpose processor, the Cell includes a
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 44 昨天还在讨论这个，今天这个就悲剧了。
发信人: agnosticism (天气真好), 信区: TVGame
标 题: sony彻底冤大头了
发信站: 水木社区 (Sat Nov 21 20:29:05 2009), 站内
不知道PS4会用什么芯片
IBM 停止Cell处理器开发
from Solidot by matrix
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德国网站Heise Online证实（德语）IBM停止了Cell处理器的未来开发。 Cell处理器一
度被认为是一项革命性的产品，但实际应用证明它并不比竞争对手突出。IBM主管
DeepComputing的副总裁David Turek证实PoweXCell 8i是最后一款Cell处理器。当然停
止芯片设计并不意味着它的死亡，目前多数的Cell芯片主要由东芝公司生产，使用在索
尼公司的PS3主机上。Sun 曾经指出，3.2GHz的Cell处理器还没有1.4GHz的SUN Niagara
处理器快。有评论称，它并不比GPGPU强大，而灵活性又不如真正的CPU，IBM放弃它并
不让人意外。 |
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发帖数: 2930 | 45 Recent rumors have been circulating that the Cell processor was no longer
being developed by IBM, and that all further development had been
discontinued. Well that information was wrong.
"An IBM spokesperson said that only one CPU development cycle is being '
halted' which is the successor to the current PowerXCell-8i cpu. IBM have
said they are planning to work on other CPU's in the Cell Processor 'family'
and we would assume that by the time the PlayStation 4 hits market that
they could very w |
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发帖数: 7481 | 46 canon 50mm 都不靠谱。。
50L不比50 1.4强多少。
50 1.4的对焦马达 死的多，活的少。
50 1.8II的塑料屁股不靠谱。
50 1.8I 还是比较好 |
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发帖数: 2663 | 47 I would do a raidz2 build with 1~2 LSI sas9211-8i card in IT mode. It can be
done for less than $2k and pretty damn reliable. With cloud storage, it is
going to be ridiculously slow to manipulate 15TB data. Not to say, $2k can
only last you about one year of usage. |
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z***i
发帖数: 1122 | 48 用5DII,有了35/1.4,50/1.4,XXBIS,
主要想拍室外人像,老百微可不可以代替85/1.8? |
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h*****s
发帖数: 12833 | 50 出501.4
换851.8
出501.41002.8
换135
包子 |
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